Well Bin Lady Leanne's FB page is a fascinating and damning indictment of the UK 2024 style.
Most people are taking the piss out of her, a few defending her. But half of the posts are so poorly spelled and punctuated that they are at best ambiguous and totally unintelligible at worst. A quick view of a few posters' profiles suggest this is pretty much the norm.
Education in this country is free. It is also compulsory up to the age of 16. How the **** did these people slip through? I'm not even talking about being able to pass a GCSE. I'm just talking about being in the education system for a minimum of 12 years - surely something has to rub off? Doesn't it? Even just a bit of pride at knowing something, anything...
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What about white voices of Cornwall
They look a bit pasty to me.
Good effort @PrinceJohn . I'll be doing the same for Stand Up To Racism Scotland. There's apparently à far right demo in Glasgow on September the 7th . Stand Up To Racism Scotland are organising the counter demo.
Convert the far-right/fascists always come out looking far worse when there are confrontations, because of course they are.
A couple of weeks ago Stephen Lennon/Tommy Robinson organised a national demo in Central London, I attended the counter demonstration march. The nearest the two sides got to each other was about 400 yards between Trafalgar Square and Whitehall.
Obviously the whole operation was always going to be a tricky one for the Met but the one striking thing I noticed on that day was how incredibly relaxed the old bill were.
I have been in a lot of dodgy situations where the police have charged into crowds, I have learnt how to gauge how tense the police are just by their whole demeanor as it gives a very good indication of the likelihood of trouble/charging/police violence. It's a whole range of things including whether they speak to each other, whether they have their back to you, their stances, etc etc
On that counter demonstration despite the potential for serious trouble between two sides the coppers whole demeanor was utterly relaxed as if they were at a local church fair, it was very noticeable to me. And reason was obvious - they knew that there were no risks of trouble from the counter demonstrators. I can't imagine for one moment though that their colleagues policing Tommy's Boys were equally as relaxed.
TBH I am not sure what has happened to political demonstrations recently. There was a time when whatever the leftie demo in London you could guarantee that some halfwits who thought of themselves as anarchists would cause trouble. However I been on 15 national demos in support of Palestine in the last 10 months and not once have I seen the slightest bit of trouble. Mind you the Palestine demos are quite unique in a multitude of different ways. They are also very organic and constantly evolving in weird and fascinating ways. They would make a very interesting subject for anyone studying human behaviour, I find them quite fascinating.
God, this is utterly depressing.
At the university I'm working at, all the international students were asked to go home today. Some of my students were racially abused in Tesco. This, sadly, does not feel out of the ordinary.
Brexit, the crapulent corruption on show on Johnson's watch, and now masked **** in Under Armour running amok and down the country, lynching people, burning books, I mean, what the **** is happening here?
I can understand how the likes of Anderson and Fox enjoy this, but the Sunaks, Bravermans, Bandernochs, your legacy is that my students no longer feel safe. How the **** do they sleep at night?
Sorry, I'm just ranting here, but our reputation of a law abiding country, a sense of fair play, due process, and all the rest of it, would appear to be flowing down the rivers and into the sea along with all the other shite.
So two of the protesters charged after the Nottingham protest are from my sleepy little middle class village, which is nice.
And the address apparently to be targeted on the next Nottingham protest, according to the Police, is the home of an elderly vulnerable man. Let's hope the idiots see that in time.
At the university I’m working at, all the international students were asked to go home today.
@fatmountain which uni is that? The one I work at hasn't even been asked to make any contingency plans yet, let alone tell students to go home, but that's probably because most of our students aren't due in for a few weeks yet.
Education in this country is free. It is also compulsory up to the age of 16. How the **** did these people slip through?
There are huge chunks of this country which get zero attention from government at any level. These places and the people who live in them are neglected and forgotten except at election time. For many people it's a struggle just to get through the day themselves never mind get kids to school. There are opportunities for the bigots and racists , and populists like Farage and Yaxley-Lennon there
There are huge chunks of this country which get zero attention from government at any level. These places and the people who live in them are neglected and forgotten except at election time.
But the education system still exists there. The majority of kids in those areas still get a perfectly adequate education and some do very well...
It's a well-known one in the north east of England.
Our current students are all international students, so are being made to feel very unsafe because of their ethnicity.
Post-Johnson Tories have all been twerking for these racist scumbags for years, now look how they've all fallen remarkably silent.
Daily Mail still at it, despite total breakdown in law and order.
If anyone can countenance it, read the comments section — their readers can't get enough of this.
Education in this country is free. It is also compulsory up to the age of 16. How the **** did these people slip through?
Last week I nipped to meet a mate in Middleton. There was a big fuss outside the pub with loads of police. A 12 year had just been nicked ragging a stolen Range Rover around the local streets at crazy speeds.
As they were arresting the little shit, his scrotey parents (or whichever ‘uncle’ Sharon was shacked up with this week) turned up and started sweatily haranguing the police to let him go. Apparently robbing cars and ragging them around at warp factor 8 is now just the kind of thing you get up to in the school holidays, so why were they arresting him?
What do you reckon his school attendance is like? Think he’ll end up with any qualifications and a bright future in front of him?
Right there you’ve got the next generation of the pricks who are out ‘protesting ‘ - and there are plenty of them - because Yaxley Lennon and Farage are telling them that their miserable pointless lives are miserable and pointless because of immigrants, and these morons are more than happy to be handed scapegoats instead of looking a bit closer to home
There are huge chunks of this country which get zero attention from government at any level. These places and the people who live in them are neglected and forgotten except at election time.
This needs to be remembered, but then the press has been so successful in framing this narrative that it's not the establishment that are responsible, but the migrants. The way it looks to me, the whole modus operandi of outfits like the Mail is to divert attention away from the fact that a very small minority of the population own two thirds of the country and are only to happy to print money for themselves but enforce a regime of austerity on everyone else, which is on-going, even with a supposedly liberal government.
Right there you’ve got the next generation of the pricks who are out ‘protesting ‘ because Yaxley Lennon and Farage are telling them that their miserable pointless lives are miserable and pointless because of immigrants
Well if they won't engage with the norms of society even though the opportunity is there...
What do you do?
Fence off certain areas and just leave them to get on with it?
Counter protests are absolutely essential. In the three years leading up to COVID the EDL attempted to march in Liverpool and each protest turned into a mini riot with police horses and lots of fighting. The marches stopped and EDL escorted out of town to the Benny Hill theme tune. Look what happened this weekend when it failed. The alternative is having fascists march through your town intimidating who they feel like. Far rights groups have always taken and gained power from the street up. Being willing to give a good kicking to fascists may not be a nice way to spend your day but it certainly stops them and in 30 years of going on counter demos it's the only option that has worked.
I read the posh boy hate and judgement (based on complete ignorance) and can only see the situation getting worse.I sense, few of you have the slightest idea who these people are and what it's like to survive in the collapsed societies they exist in.Very sad.
It might be time to remind Mr Musk that although X has the reach and ability to interfere in politics, it doesn't possess a military capability nor a special forces capability that can make people disappear.
Half an hour of analysis on LCI. The fake news started with the Russians on Channel 3 apparently then got diffused by Russian bots and media. That needs bringing home to the far-right flag wavers. There were also reminders of previous Russian succeses, Brexit and Trump. And the Boris factor where I'm not quite sure what they we're getting at or accusing him of.
Education in this country is free. It is also compulsory up to the age of 16. How the **** did these people slip through? I’m not even talking about being able to pass a GCSE. I’m just talking about being in the education system for a minimum of 12 years – surely something has to rub off? Doesn’t it? Even just a bit of pride at knowing something, anything…
“Oh, we’ve had enough of experts”
“I’m rubbish at maths”
”I don’t read books”
”I hate swots”
”Teacher’s pet”
Being ignorant and uneducated is a badge of honour for far too many people.
No idea how you change it though. I suspect it will always be thus, but social media now provides a platform and shines a light on it.
If you think they were all fascists your hopelessly deluded.If you think all Brexit voters were thick and educated your also a fool.
why do some people have such difficulty understanding this: It’s not “just typing something on the internet”, it’s publishing something, possibly for all time, to potentially millions of people. There needs to be accountability, responsibility, and consequences.
As if by magic, the following headline has just pinged up on my phone “Man, 28, becomes first person to be charged with stirring racial hatred online in relation to current violent disorder in UK”. How is that not a good thing??
As an aside, why do people think that “freedom of speech” i.e. I can say what I like, to who I like, is a thing in the UK, or ever has been? Too many US cop shows I guess?
Riots and public disorder, plus racist attacks and xenophobia, were a thing long before social media existed. See 1930s Germany. As for 'accountability'; see many politicians since WW2, who have used race as a means to win support. From Enoch Powell to Farage, Braverman, Boris Johnson and Lee Anderson. Labour haven't been exempt from more recent dog-whistling either; see Margaret Hodge in Barking, Andy Burnham in Manchester and the lack of any action to combat Islamophobia in the Labour party. Much of this has been done entirely independently of any social media. 'Freedom of speech' is more a turn of phrase than a reality, of course, but everyone has their own interpretation of what this means, and who should be allowed the privilege. Personally, I don't want any politicians I didn't vote for, deciding on my freedoms. Democracy relies on equivocacy for all. Even if you don't like what's being said; you do of course equally have the right to speak out against it though.
Have you actually been watching the news for the past week?
Yes. I just don't believe knee-jerk reactionism and the curtailment of democratic freedoms is the way forward.
there is a massive difference between a forum and algorithm driven sites like Twitter/Meta. If you don’t understand the difference you really aren’t in a position to comment.
Is there? Internet forums are still run and controlled largely by private organisations and individuals. I'm sure if I expressed views which conflicted with those of this forum's owners, I'd be quickly removed. I have experienced forums, some very popular ones even, where there is a distinct bias towards particular beliefs and ideologies and where dissent isn't tolerated. If anything, I'd say Twitter etc are in fact more open in terms of a spectrum of opinions and views.
[MOD] No, you wouldn’t. Only if you break the forum rules.
Many of the schools round here are holding operations specialising in crowd control.As I have pointed out before,40% of children in Middlesbrough grow up in poverty.The figure is 60% in my adjacent council ward.That is the real violence not a one of riot.
The average male round here dies at 55.I,m living on borrowed time.
If you think all Brexit voters were thick and educated your also a fool.
I have made many wild statements on this forum but I can assure you I have never, ever, asserted that All Brexit voters were educated.
Many of the schools round here are holding operations specialising in crowd control.As I have pointed out before,40% of children in Middlesbrough grow up in poverty.The figure is 60% in my adjacent council ward.That is the real violence not a one of riot.
The average male round here dies at 55.I,m living on borrowed time.
Yet you are, presumably, in a decently paid job, able to have mountain biking as a hobby and time to post on here. So it can be done, no?
I read the posh boy hate and judgement (based on complete ignorance) and can only see the situation getting worse.I sense, few of you have the slightest idea who these people are and what it’s like to survive in the collapsed societies they exist in.Very sad
Posh boys? Righto…
every parent should want the best for their children?
In the case of what I just described, their parental responsibility wasn’t to stop their delightful offspring from robbing cars, but to prevent the police from arresting him once the little nobhead had driven it down a dead end road and been collared
Posh boys? Righto…
I can just imagine you almost spitting your foie gras all over the computer when you read that!
There was châteauneuf-du-pape everywhere comrade
I can just imagine you almost spitting your foie gras all over the computer when you read that!
I nearly knocked my Chablis over too. But if I had, it wouldn't have mattered as I would have asked my butler to clear it up for me. Obviously.
Not sure where he lives, but a mate of mine is from Stockton and always said they had the lowest, but it was mid 60 as he was on about hitting retirement then pegging it?!
The one I'd heard of before as the worst life expectancy was a part if Blackpool, but that's 66.6 for males, which is still shite.
I've seen Glasgow quoted at 54 and 56 but also seen those figures contested so I assumed monkeyc is from Glasgow.
The irony.
@fenderextender. I am no expert on education but yes schools do exist in "those areas" How well they function is another matter. The school buildings have to be fit for purpose, They have to be well staffed, I know some vacancies are inevitable. The kids have to be coming to school well fed , well clothed and having had a good nights sleep. They have to come from a home where people believe in the value of education, this is often not the case
But schools exist in those areas and every parent should want the best for their children?
Should, but I think that's a a little naive and underestimates all the corrosive effects of poverty and deprivation that can lead to poor educational outcomes.
What if the parent is doing that parenting alone on a low income? Having maybe not had the best example from their own parent/s or great experience of school themselves? Then chuck in any of the following: unemployment (or minimum wage/zero hour contracts); substance abuse; domestic violence; child abuse/neglect; child carers; truancy; poor nutrition; mental health issues etc. Then it becomes easier to see how so many fall through the gaps and how the cycle repeats itself when those failed kids become parents themselves.
The average male round here dies at 55.I,m living on borrowed time.
Where's that?
Because I just put in a postcode for Redcar and it gave me 81?
https://healthequals.org.uk/make-health-equal/
Enough of the big talk, we need practical solutions: How much would the mood on the streets change if the government flooded the UK cocaine market with ecstacy-laced baking powder?
Well decent quality Doves pretty much stopped football hooliganism overnight in the early 90’s so it’s worth a try
Slightly but not wholly off topic...
Does anyone have a reliable UK wide source for planned protest dates - are they publicised in a non-tabloid location somewhere I can reliably track them? Work and domestic travel reasons.
The revolution is coming…
https://Twitter.com/politicoforyou/status/1820739371370271006?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
the worst life expectancy was a part if Blackpool, but that’s 66.6 for males,
Can confirm this is correct, I'm just a short distance outside this particular postcode, hopefully means I've got a few more than 20 years left ??
When far-right rioters end up in court inFrance the profiles amount to middle-class racist IT nerd rather than jobless uneducated poor. I'd be interested to see the profiles of the 400 arrested so far in the UK and how much they are capable of paying their lawyers.
