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In my mind, rock n roll genius. I've followed GnR for many years and Axl, despite being "different" in his ways of thinking and proven to be highly intellectual, for me is an absolute stalwart in doing things "his way". He lives and breaths his music, he's a perfectionist, and he doesn't bow to opinion.
In other words he's the real deal in terms of a person being themselves and giving 2 fingers to being swayed by public, press etc. Sure he's there to write music and make money - but his way.
So lately, he declined induction into the R&R hall of fame as follows, with the underlying pretext of the expectancy of the media that all the original band members would be on stage together:
Go Axl, stay unique, its what makes you utterly brilliant, unlike so many of the sell-outs of our time.
Ahem, anyway, thats my opinion...
Shit, sub Robert Plant copyist singer though eh?
You should watch some of the documentary's with him warming up / singing. He isn't copying Plant.....
And he's better when on form, although I appreciate like any singer that is a divisive opinion...
The least talented member of a decent rock'n'roll band.
Seriously, I've heard better voices calling bingo numbers.
Waxl was always the weak link.
They might still be a decent band if he'd done the decent thing and overdosed after 'Appetite'.
He's the Ricky Gervais of American commercial rock!
blatantly a closet homosexual though.
not that i have a problem with it but hiding your sexuality isnt really doing it 'your way' and not bowing to opinion is it?
Hold on though, R&R frontmen particularly, and band members aren't only about the voice, which you two have focused on.
You need to consider the stage presence (one of the best), the attitude, energy, committent, song writing, etc.
Be a bit odd for him to turn up with the old guys and completely leave out the people who are currently in the band. He's still a bit of a ****nugget though.
(Slash's last album was pretty good btw.)
Typical, here come the idiots - any chance of focusing the discussion on talent and comparison though than have a snyde uneducated pop for STW members entertainment reasons?
Who's he talking about? Can't be me - I'm very well educated on this subject.
Gordy - Member(Slash's last album was pretty good btw.)
Agreed. Slash is an idol for me (I used to play). His next Album is out soon, and apparently its my fathers day present.
For the uneducated above though - it'd be good to compare Myles Kennedy (a brilliant singer) vs Axl in terms of stage presence- they might just get it.
Gordy I'm talking about Jonah and MSP.
On the subject of Myles, I walked out of the only Alter Bridge gig I've ever been to. They were murdering their own songs.
Not the greatest vocalist, one of the best stage presences arguably, will always be a hero of mine just for being part of the group that gave us Appetite for Destruction
But frankly, most of the time he does come across as being a complete bell end!
Oh FFS, you really expect a serious thread when you start it drooling honey over a hasbeen singer who was never that good to start with, just because he's your idol, get a grip.
In my mind, rock n roll genius. I've followed GnR for many years and Axl, despite being "different" in his ways of thinking and proven to be highly intellectual, for me is an absolute stalwart in doing things "his way". He lives and breaths his music, he's a perfectionist, and he doesn't bow to opinion.
In other words he's [s]the real deal[/s] a bit of an old drama queen in terms of a person being themselves and giving 2 fingers to being swayed by public, press etc. Sure he's there to write music and make money - but his way.
MCTD - he does come across that way, but if you delve deeply, read up a bit and you can "get" Axl. He's not "normal", no, but you can in some way understand his behavior.
Re the article above - why would he be a part of what he percieves is a closet reunion, when he doesn't want a reunion? Fair play IMO.
MSP - Member
Oh FFS, you really expect a serious thread when you start it drooling honey over a hasbeen singer who was [b]never that good to start with[/b], just because he's your idol, get a grip.
Perhaps in your opinion Mr Space Pilot, but not that of many others....
when you say (i used to play) do you mean with your self? stage presence? get real when has he been on stage for more then 20mins before throwing a tantrum? quite possibly the most pretentious whiner to ever tear his jeans
LOL!
I used to play guitar Jonah.
I think you'll find your 20 minute statemant to be very inaccurate. Axl's tantrums are more limited in ratio to his performances than you may think. Most of them have been for very good reasons - would you kick off at work if someone through a bottle at you?
But then if you did your research or knew FA about the subject you'd know that.
Saw them at old wemberly and they were quality! Was quite frightening at times but nothing like monsters of rock 88. Fruit loop but comparing him to plant is bollox!
Was at download when he kept the crowed waiting for two hours. Yes he was bottled off and deserved it, what a ****
He's a fairly generic self-absorbed rock ****, with a mediocre voice,most of his stage "presence" was due to having a millions watts of lighting and shit flying about all over the stage whilst he happened to on it. Much of the band's success was down to a combination of good image management,Slash's riffage and extremely good production. Though to be fair I'm not really a fan of 80's/90's American jock rock or those big poodle haired bands at the best of times, so I may be a little biased 🙂
....was down to a combination of good image management,Slash's riffage and extremely good production. Though to be fair I'm not really a fan of 80's/90's American jock rock or those big poodle haired bands at the best of times, so I may be a little biased
Again, maybe review the subject before you post. If you look through all the media, including the members own autobiographies you'll see that the management wasn't the best, Slash, although a talented standout guitarist didn't always play the best and depending on your view isnt the best guitarist this world has ever seen.
They were the right band at the right time, a bit like many. However, Slash and Axl particularly have managed to continue / extend their talent over many years. They are unique in what they achieved and lost, thats what makes them legends amongst us.
Is it just me, or is this thread buzzing with sexual tension?
It's just you.
"you'll see that the management wasn't the best"
Image management is what I said, which is a completely different thing altogether 🙂
As for reviewing the subject, I have....musician''s autobiographies invariably blame their management and other band members for their own failings,usually self serving and to be taken with a pinch of salt :).
"you'll see that the management wasn't the best"
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Sorry, Waxl was a talent free psychotic with a persecution complex, a habit and a strange taste in skintight lycra.
Oh, and a receding hairline, hence the bandana.
At least Bobby Charlton just combed it over.
They were the Oasis of rock:
Derivative, limited, couple of good tunes and a devoted fan base that thought they were the first people ever to have heard a rock 'n' roll band.
If you're asking for opinions on Axl Rose, then in my opinion, he's one of the greatest ****s I've ever seen in a band. I also absolutely hate his voice, although again, that's only my opinion.
I wouldnae put this thread in your favourites, Kryton. 😉
LOL!
Middle aged chaps arguing about the bestest band? It's like the letters page from Smash Hits...'ave a word!
genius imho - His voice is the band , no doubt slash , izzy n duff contributed but if anyone else sung those songs it would not be the same. and you cant say that about the rest of them , i went to the gnr concert in 2005 ish at wembley and as soon as i heard "do you know where the f*ck you are" from axl that was all that mattered ..
Fuuny thread this! I'm a fan of the band, but think that Axl Rose is a complete ****.....love his voice on the recordings, but the live performances that I've heard were pretty dire......and for the record, Slash is in the top handful of guitarists around.
tom try the live era ep - estranged - vocaly perfect
EDIT: That will probably get me banned again.
I like his music but he needs to get off his high horse, he seems like a bit of a **** to me.
When Axle played in my city a few years ago (he owns the rights to most of the GnR songs) H came on a few hours late and only played 2 songs. He was getting angry at the crowd to for throwing plastic bottles on the stage too. Not very rock and roll I reckon.
Love the original GnR,
but axl disapeared up his own a..e in an enormous cloud of cocaine 20 years ago.
blatantly a closet homosexual though.
i think he outed himself in that video.
One half decent album from 1987 warrants his legend status imo. Great troll, 8/10 for effort, op.
Last time I saw GnR, all I saw was a good covers band with a singer who had to change his clothes between every song. Late 80's-mid 90's yey Axl. 2012, meh.
one good album a legend doesn't make.
See also Oasis.
It was his mediocre screech that I liked, shame he was such a knob end.
That letter, is written, with far too many, commas (and brackets), making it virtually, unreadable to me (or others). Also the use of several, numerous, assorted and various words that attempt to make the same point, makes him sound, like a tit, knob, idiot or tosser.
he's a k**b for sure , personally I never rated G'n'R as a great band anyway , a couple of good songs at best. Their attitude towards the fans wound me up , turning up on stage 2 and 3 hours late then being surprised when people kick off instead of kissing the ground they walked on.They never got any of my hard earned though I prefer something a bit heavier than that hairspray rock 😀
Been a fan of GnR for years, had the pleasure of seeing both GnR recently and velvet revolver before they split. Axel peed a few people off, including his own band, but he is still a talented vocalist. The early GnR stuff is superb. Nothing at the time was like it. Chinese democracy was, for me, very strange.
Love velvet revolver and slash's own stuff. It's just good, honest rock n roll. Which is what the band is all about.
Lead singers have always been a bit fragile, but often that is what sets them apart. The band will always have a following which can't be said about some of the rubbish being released today( god I sound old!!!!)
appetite for destruction is a guilty pleasure for me. you know you shouldn't but you can't help yourself.
always thought he was a bit of a squeezer though
Interesting that in the hall of fame induction last night a good few people from the band took a chance to have a pop at him.
Yes he's an odd one, but he also helped put them where they are.
Guns n' Roses, the band that became so overblown and believing their own hype they pushed me away from the hair metal music and towards something a little more stripped down and gratifying
Yes he's an odd one, but he also helped put them where they are
2 way street , without the rest of the band he might not be where he is now (made of plastic/fat/massive ego)
GnR were never really hair metal, they were a direct descendant of the Stones and early Aerosmith. If anything they helped to get rid of the godawful crap like Warrant, Quiet Riot and all the other jokers well before Nirvana.
AfD is a game-changing album (well it was for me as a 10yr-old), cut all the dross out of UYI I and II and you've got another world-beating double album. The guitar on those two records from Izzy and Slash is incredible.
That was the end of the line though as Axl and his crazy behaviour killed it off. He's a prize tosser of the first order, and the fact that he dares to call his comedy sideshow act of today GnR says it all.
His voice is the band , no doubt slash , izzy n duff contributed but if anyone else sung those songs it would not be the same. and you cant say that about the rest of them ,
No, if anyone else sang them they'd be much improved. Axl's strangled caterwauling is bordering on abhorrent. I don't own, nor ever will, a single GnR track, nothing about them gives me any sort of thrill or sense of excitement, unlike many other bands I've seen and heard over the last forty-plus years.
I'm pretty much where LS is I think.
I like GnR; Appetite and Illusion were phenomenal albums that still hold up today. Axl is an entertaining frontman with a brilliant, distinctive voice even if it does take a bit of getting used to.
However, he is a helmet of the highest order. Total self-absorbed prima donna who keeps everyone waiting because he can.
I've seen them live twice. Once in the early 90s, UYI tour, supported by Soundgarden and Faith No More. Gig was cancelled and rescheduled, and an "extra special gig" was promised; they turned up an hour late, played for not much over an hour and then went "well, it's Sunday, so we have to stop now." Great show until then, though they were completely blown off the stage by FNM who were superlative.
Second time was a couple of years ago, the Axl + band show, seems these days he's spending his cocaine money on pies. Again, true to form, cracking gig and he can certainly still sing, but sitting on the floor of a too-hot MEN for two hours waiting for Lord Rose to grace us with his presence means that it'll be the last GnR gig I'll be going to for the forseeable.