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[Closed] Audi repairs - guess the cost?

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Needs a new diesel particulate filter (which is probably just corrugated carboard/paper), anyone like to guess the cost from the Audi garage?

(and yes we took it to another garage 1st, who advise the warning lights could be a few things and advised us to take it to Audi)

I will start the bidding with my left arm.

Grrrrrrrrrr, bloody cars!!!!!!


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:45 pm
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Got to be £850+vat & fitting at something near £120/hr

£1200?

Take it to a decent VW tuner who will replace it with a piece of pipe, remove the coding in the ECU for the lights


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:48 pm
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The magazines are right when they say that unless you drive half way around the world every week petrol engines are cheaper to run.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:48 pm
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A blast up the bypass and back might solve the issue? Give it the beans, sometimes the collected muck just needs to be burned off


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:50 pm
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Car wont go above 40 so not an option.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:52 pm
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Are they? My Honda costs me £150 for a full service which it needs once a year. Add to that the 45mpg that it gives me no matter how I drive it despite being the size of the QE2 and I'd really struggle to find a petrol car that would be cheaper.

As for the AUDI question, we take ours to the local edit: non-AUDI garage. Never had a problem with any warning lights being put out after a service and always reasonably cheap.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:52 pm
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I'm going for 2000 pounds.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:57 pm
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£ 950?


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:57 pm
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£2100 including VAT. That will be for a new DPF and new pressure sensor.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 1:59 pm
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£1450

we're going for petrol next time, only get to about 8k miles a year


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:01 pm
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The magazines are right when they say that unless you drive half way around the world every week petrol engines are cheaper to run.

LOL. Honda civic here. £99 quid a year service for the last three years, 60k on the clock, 2.2 turbo engine, 50mpg.

OP - £1674.67


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:02 pm
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The DPF is so expensive because it's a combined DPF and CAT so has some precious metals in there. Platinum I think?

It's worth getting a second opinion as to it being gone and needing to be replaced. It might actually be fine and there be a fault elsewhere

Where are you based? Anywhere near [url= http://www.turnerdiagnostics.co.uk/dpf-cleaning-43/dpf-error-a-dpf-faults.html ]Turner Diagnostics?[/url]*

*can't recommend them unfortunately as not used but they look like they know their stuff


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:03 pm
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4 shillings and 6 pence.

As for Audi servicing, mine cost less than the local "non" Audi, but Audi trained garage not far away.
I had an airbag light come on and a light for the exhaust, both sensors were taken out and cleaned and then put back in and checked, all good, no need to replace with new ones.

Just saying as not all Audi charges are expensive nor done for the sake of it.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:04 pm
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£2190 incl vat .
if its dpf and cat ata main stealership


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:07 pm
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How much more does a Honda Civic diesel cost than a Dacia Sandero petrol?

Hondas are silly money here in France whatever the engine type.

Edit: and my guess is £1200


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:09 pm
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Expensive car in expensive to fix shocker... 🙄


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:11 pm
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[Mike Reed voice] FIVE GRAAAND [/Mike Reed voice]


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:12 pm
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Unklehomered is closest. £1420 for a new DPF, £265 is labour which means the DPF is £1155, seen them online for £700, unless there are sensors like you say.

And I agree, petrol next time, we just don't do the mileage for a diesel to be economic.

Cars suck, I could buy a new bike for that, maybe 2!!


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:13 pm
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What engine/BHP/generation/year is it? (I can't help -just to help me avoid ever owning that particular engine in a VW/Audi)


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:14 pm
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2.0 tdi Quattro


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:16 pm
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BOOM! Loosers!!!!*

*yup, i'm bored at work. 🙂


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:16 pm
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c2005/6?


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:16 pm
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2007


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:17 pm
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Christ. Is there anyway you can get it blanked off? Have you been on a VW/Audi forum etc?

Thats ridiculously expensive.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:20 pm
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LOL. Honda civic here. £99 quid a year service for the last three years, 60k on the clock, 2.2 turbo engine, 50mpg.

Ford C-max petrol, 65k, £40/year service, 40mpg and none of the following:

Turbo
DPF
High pressure injection system
DMF

LOL 😛

In the interests of disclosure it did need a new power steering hose costing about £100 after 45k, and it's on it's 3rd set of tyres.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:24 pm
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there was also mention of an exhaust gas re-circ valve fault at an ADDITIONAL £433! but seing if filter sorts it 1st. hoping it will.

TBH, I dont know enough about cars to start trawling audi forums, have to trust Audi a little bit and realise you are going to pay a little bit more.


 
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£1420 for a new DPF, £265 is labour which means the DPF is £1155, seen them online for £700, unless there are sensors like you say.

Sensor is £50 if it's the same as my Seat was. That price is actually pretty reasonable. Main dealer quoted me £2100 for my Seat, quite likely same part as will go on your Audi.

However I went the non genuine part route, that was £700. But I have a warning to heed, the non-genuine part did not fix the problem and because of this I ended up having to sell the car at auction at a much reduced price 😯

I think the car had a underlying fault that caused the DPF to fail (if it did actually fail) and look like it needed replacing. This was confounded by fitting a non-genuine part as Seat blamed it for the fault. It may have been fine but as non-genuine part it could have been causing issues. I suspect the underlying fault was with the ECU as the pressure and temp readings in diagnostics were all over the place.

In the end, I spent £1000s and got nowhere. So before you commit to changing DPF, get a decent diagnostics person to look at the car.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:26 pm
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ditto/me too but when a driveshaft went on a Subaru (they wanted 1k+) I posted the problem (as your first post) up on a forum(s) and found out an easier set of solutions.

(I also had an exhaust fail its MOT - again Subaru wanted 1k+ for a full system but a forum recommended a £390 solution).

At the least you'll get people who had the same problem and specialists/etc they used.

Main dealers are renowned for being fitters and plugging bits in to see if it'll sort the problem (at your expense) until the problem is eventually completed cured. A good specialist wont throw your money at a problem. He'll also know off-plan potential fixes.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:27 pm
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have to trust Audi a little bit and realise you are going to pay a little bit more

They must have seen you coming...


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:29 pm
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OP
Are you sure it's the right diagnosis?

Friend had the same kinda problem on his Audi diesel and they went all round the (expensive )houses before finding it was a leaking intake hose 🙄

Go mad on google and Audi forums ( if you haven't already) ,see if there are any other areas that could be checked .


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:30 pm
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As above, I honestly think you should avoid Audi on this.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:31 pm
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Car wont go above 40 so not an option.

So do 10 miles at 40mph in 1st gear.
Seriously.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:31 pm
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You could easily do 40 in 2nd - just get a nice dual carriage way. If you live anywhere near me- I'll do it 🙂


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:33 pm
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Go to vagforums, plenty of informative people there. There is option of having Würth clean treatment but that you have to discuss there. Most people gut dpf and remap. On average it costs £600 plus more power and mpg.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:33 pm
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there was also mention of an exhaust gas re-circ valve fault at an ADDITIONAL £433!

The EGR could require cleaning if the mileage is high, won't cost £433 to do that though. It does need to be operating properly to allow the DPF to regenerate

The problem with main dealers is that the mechanics tend to be more "technicians" rather than engineers. Their fault finding methodology is to swap suspected faulty part, see if that fixes it, if not change something else..... all at your cost. More specialist independent garages might be able to employ a bit more logic to the fault finding and possibly save you money. However unless you've got a specialist you trust I'd possibly stick with Audi. You could always try another Audi dealer though?


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:34 pm
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Heres what'll happen- Audi fit everything then they'll hand you their free 'critical safety report' which shows your discs are 70% worn.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:35 pm
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www.vwaudiforum.co.uk

choose your section and fire away


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:36 pm
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Heres what'll happen- Audi fit everything then they'll hand you their free 'critical safety report' which shows your discs are 70% worn.

they have already told me that the front tyres are 2mm off the legal limit.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:39 pm
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Most people gut dpf and remap. On average it costs £600 plus more power and mpg.
Problem is it's illegal and could cause MOT failure in the future*. It does in other EU countries (Portugal I think) so quite likely to come here soon.

*Or right now if you're unlucky, your car could be taken off the road by VOSA at a checkpoint. Oh and there is also the issue of tax evasion


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:40 pm
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Heres what'll happen- Audi fit everything then they'll hand you their free 'critical safety report' which shows your discs are 70% worn.

Had this with Honda car went in last year for service discs are 70% worn pads are 80%worn , new pads fitted by local garage didn't change discs this year the discs are 60% worn. 🙄


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:50 pm
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Two weeks ago I had "70% worn disc/pads". The very next day I had a puncture. I could NOT get the wheel off. I had to pop the bolts back in 50% then drive round in a circle to get the front hub to debond to the steel wheel. In the tyre fitters I ask them to try the other front wheel. Also bonded to the hub.

How did they measure the pad wear THAT accurately without taking the wheels off?

OP - I know a respectable NWest bikeshop back in 2007/8 that told me me crankset and my rear mech was worn out/not fit for purpose and asked if they could fit new.

I told them no ta. The rear mech is still going strong. As we know a good bike mechanic would fit new parts or simple ignore cosmetic wear.


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:54 pm
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If you are in the South East I can highly recommend Merc Medic just outside Woking

Our 2.7 TDI Quattro has done 100,000 miles owned since new in 2007 and been very reliable with limited servicing costs. The franchise dealer in Guildford I don't have a single good word to say about.

These "warning lights" are a car manufactures dream as it's very hard to sell the car on with the lights illuminated and how do any of us really know if they are "legit" ?

EDIT: never change the tyres at the franchise dealers, so much cheaper elsewhere. IMO new tyres required is a common dealer revenue generator.

EDIT2: We were told on a Toyota RAV4 that a new Cat was required, it was replaced under warranty then warning light on again and dealer had same story - new cat required. We looked on Toyota forum and as a result I bought a new battery, warning light never came on again


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 2:57 pm
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i share your pain. among other laughably expensive fixes i have just paid £250 to have a new rear wiper motor fitted to my a6


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 3:28 pm
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This DPF malarky is suspect, I reckon. It's an inert thing with no moving parts, how can it fail? If it gets blocked up, then something else is causing it to either block quickly or not regenerate properly. Unless you address that it's only going to block again.


 
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they have already told me that the front tyres are 2mm off the legal limit.

Hahaha, this is why I don't go near main dealers


 
Posted : 25/06/2013 3:41 pm
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