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[Closed] Artists, graphic designers, web developers and a whole lot more: Nerdgasm alert!

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As a piece of market research I've just shown the riveting review video to a few of the designers and illustrators I'm presently working with. Their reaction was pretty much the same as mine. Meh. Watching a techie banging on about Quadcore processor speeds? Just demonstrates that Microsoft just don't understand the market.

They'll sell 12 of them...

They'll get used for a week, before it becomes apparent that its a big daft gimmicky thing that no software developers support, then....

*sound of useless oversize tablet being hoyed into a skip*


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 3:12 pm
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Just demonstrates that Microsoft just don't understand the market.

Just to point out that the review wasn't done by Microsoft. It's not marketing aimed at artists, it's a review. All reviews talk about processor speeds.

Mols. Techies will get themselves all het up about this kind of thing, because... well... its the kind of thing you lot get yourself all hot and bothered about.

Actually what I am getting every so slightly het up about isn't anything to do with the PC - I couldn't care less if you like it or not. It's the fact you seem to WANT to hate the thing when your opinion shoudl be based on merit. And you are basing your argument on assumptions that don't seem to be sound.

However you probably are trolling so I should not bite.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 3:40 pm
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I wouldn't do that to you Molls 😀

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Posted : 23/11/2016 4:05 pm
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I see you've lost weight in that pic.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 4:24 pm
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It was interesting that the two pro artists in that review both had 'dealbreakers'.
Yet the reviewer seemed to gloss over this a little. Presumably, the pro artists currently use either Cintiq or iPad Pro and liked the screen but still didn't want to swap.

It could just be a case of getting used to it.

The wheel thing looked every bit as pointless as we assumed.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 5:22 pm
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Binners - if a digital artist/illustrator of the type that currently uses Cintiq or iPad Pro isn't at least wanting to test this, it seems a little closed-minded to me.

In terms of support, surely all you need is Adobe CC support.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 5:25 pm
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That thing with the pen drawing when it's not on quite on the screen - just tried this out on the Surface, and it definitely doens't do it. So I'd imagine that could be fixed with a bit of tweaking, providing they're the same tech.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 5:37 pm
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Personally ... NFI! once they'd uttered the words Windows 10. But a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. I just can't see how this improves on a Mac with a big screen. Am I going to stand there all day, every day hovering over an oversized tablet. Of course I'm bloody not! And neither is anyone else

and 99% percent of the photographers/designers/editors i know use a wacom tablet*, control surface or trackpad. don’t know anyone who uses a mouse anymore.

it’s a ****y product some committee came up with ‘to challenge apple'

*and not even a big one, a smaller one reduces the arm movements you have to make when you use it all day. nobody wants to wave their arms about hovering over screen like some sic-fi utopian vision of the future.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 5:41 pm
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Again.... I don't want to tweak things. Like most designers I consider installing a printer driver an operation as complicated, and fraught with potential danger as defusing a roadside IED. I want to plug it in, turn it on, and for it to do what I want it to do. No 'tweaking' or fannying about!

A bit like a....

What are those other machines called again Mols?

You techies are a weird breed. Why on earth would you start 'tweaking' things if you didn't absolutely have too?

Freaks!

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Posted : 23/11/2016 5:44 pm
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Not biting any more binners.

For everyone else, found a [url= http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/reviews/creative-hardware/microsoft-surface-studio-hands-on-review/ ]first look review[/url] by an artist comparing it to a Cintiq monitor/digitiser and they reckoned the Studio was a cheaper option 😯


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 5:47 pm
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Surprised people are calling it a gimmick. Looks excellent for retouching & illustrating. Computers should be more tactile / natural

Everyone in my studio wants one - our imacs seem to change very little with every update


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 7:11 pm
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and 99% percent of the photographers/designers/editors i know use a wacom tablet*, control surface or trackpad. don’t know anyone who uses a mouse anymore.
To be honest, I work in a few design agencies around Manchester and only the illustrators/artists have them. I can only think of a couple of web or print designers or artworkers that bother with them.
So I would put it at <5% graphic designers use anything other than a mouse/keyboard.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 7:21 pm
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