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I don't think I've seen a Meyers-Briggs thread on here before. That said, I am interested in the psychological make-up of the forum. If you have done Meyers-Briggs, would you be willing to post your type?

If you haven't done M-B, try [url= http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp ]this test[/url]. [It is made up of 72 yes/no questions that will take 5 minutes to complete.]

I am INTP.

[I=78%; N=88%; T=75%; P=11%]


 
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ISTJ
Introvert(78%) Sensing(25%) Thinking(88%) Judging(1%)

Sounds about right


 
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I honestly can't remember my designation, but was surprised to find myself an extrovert.

Which I kind of agree with having educated myself further on the subject and redefined my understanding of the terms used.


 
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Last time I looked I was ISTJ - Guardian / Inspector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISTJ


 
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Introvert(56%)
Sensing(25%)
Thinking(38%)
Judging(56%)

Not nearly as introverted as I expected actually, but then I do pride myself on convincing people (including myself) that I'm more extroverted than I am.


 
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I'm not really an introvert, it's just that with half the population being below average intelligence, I prefer not to risk getting in to conversation with idiots.


 
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Before taking the test, you might want to [url= http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/mar/19/myers-briggs-test-unscientific ]read this criticism of it[/url].


 
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ISTJ
Introvert(11%) Sensing(1%) Thinking(88%) Judging(56%)

similar to northernmatt although I judge him to be more of a bed-wetting introvert


 
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I flit between ESTJ and ENTJ


 
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72 questions?

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I don't need to take a test. The voices in my head tell me that I'm perfect, and that anyone who disagrees should feel the divine wrath of my righteous retribution


 
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I'm a badass


 
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INTJ
Introvert(67%) iNtuitive(50%) Thinking(50%) Judging(33%)


 
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I got to Q14 and got bored; not sure what that says.


 
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Apparently I'm [i]ENTJ[/i].

Extravert(11%) iNtuitive(50%) Thinking(1%) Judging(11%)

But kind of marginal on most things it seems...
What does this actually all mean though?
Am I a balanced individual or a general purpose nutbar?


 
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Before taking the test, you might want to read this criticism of it.

Do you find this convincing criticism Mike?

I was genuinely interested and neutral on the subject, but most of his points "against" it seem to be about individuals' attitudes toward it rather than the substance of the test - backed up by what appears to be a vague resentment of its success.

(Or a desire to gain attention, to make an unqualified psychological observation).

PS. Just remembered I came out as an ESTJ, so I would say that eh?


 
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ISTJ.


 
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INTJ

Nice biased opinion article in the grauniad there.

Any fool knoweth these things are but an indictor and a clumsy one at best.


 
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ENFP

Extravert(78%) iNtuitive(62%) Feeling(19%) Perceiving(33%)

Some of questions are a bit strange. Hard to answer yes or no.

Not sure how much use it is?


 
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@miketually: that Guardian piece is interesting and makes some valid statements, but doesn't really address the genuine nature of the MBTI. For example, when it says

...the MBTI seems to rely exclusively on binary choices.

For example, in the category of extrovert v introvert, you're either one or the other; there is no middle ground. People don't work this way, no normal person is either 100% extrovert or 100% introvert.

it fails to account for the fact that each category is indicated by a percentage precisely [i]because[/i] nobody is 100% anything.

A thorough response to the piece would warrant a correspondingly long post, but suffice it to say that there is much the author does not seem to understand about the MBTI.


 
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I always describe myself as a closet-extrovert.

I got to Q14 and got bored; not sure what that says

This...


 
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INTP
Introvert(11%) iNtuitive(38%) Thinking(75%) Perceiving(44%)
You have slight preference of Introversion over Extraversion (11%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (38%)
You have distinct preference of Thinking over Feeling (75%)
You have moderate preference of Perceiving over Judging (44%)

Doesn't sound too far off, TBH.

I view these things as a bit of fun, filed under the same category as the "which Game of Thrones character are you?" tests that pop up with tedious regularity.

The problem I have with tests like the MB (aside from the fact that some people, like employers, actually take them seriously) is that too many of the questions are vague or carry of an answer of "both" or "it depends." Do I prefer reading a book or going to a party? Well, I'd enjoy both of those things. Is it a Saturday night or a Tuesday lunchtime?


 
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ISTJ
Introvert(78%) Sensing(1%) Thinking(38%) Judging(78%)

EDIT: just had a read of the definition of ISTJ AND INTJ. Some characteristics of both on the S and N, but otherwise nail on the head.


 
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similar to northernmatt although I judge him to be more of a bed-wetting introvert

Thanks


 
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Intp or istp depending on mood. There are a lot of js turning up. Could explain some of the posts on here. I would have categorised the average user in here as istp or isfp.


 
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Strongly extroverted (89%)
Moderate preference of intuition (50%)
Moderate preference of thinking over feeling (38%)
No preference of judging over perceiving (1%)

Interesting, as if I think about the answers to the questions with my non-cyclist head on, I come up as very extroverted, but get almost exactly the opposite if I answer based on experience from cycling.

High level cyclist are usually the most introverted personalities around, with the odd exception. So it'd be interesting to see the results of some top pros on this test.


 
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each category is indicated by a percentage precisely because nobody is 100% anything

But most people don't remember (or state) the percentages. Any time I've taken that test I've come out as introvert so that's all I remember. Do employers who use it take account of the percentages, or do they just categorise people according to the letters?

A thorough response to the piece would warrant a correspondingly long post, but suffice it to say that there is much the author does not seem to understand about the MBTI.

I'm sure there's some evidence of the effectiveness of the M-B test that you could point me toward? In the meantime, I'm going to assume it's pseudoscientific nonsense and file it alongside learning styles and left-right brain dominance.


 
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I've always been INTJ but was ENTJ last time I did one - will try later.

Lots of info out there on what they mean:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTJ


 
Posted : 20/10/2014 10:23 am
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I'm an introverted extrovert.

Just add beer......


 
Posted : 20/10/2014 10:25 am
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INFP

Introverted 11%
Intuitive 25%
Feeling 38%
Perceiving 11%

I have precisely no idea what that means


 
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I am also an INFP - took the test with work years ago.

All the different personality types had stick man drawings to illustrate them.

INFP was shown lying in a hamock, day dreaming about pots of gold. Which sums me up pretty well.

All the introverts - I recommend you read the book Quiet by Susan Cain to understand yourself and how you fit into the world a bit bettter


 
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I did this when I was at university. I was ENTJ. same as Margaret Thatcher apparently.


 
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It's not great to be honest.
The Myer-Brigg’s indicator is based on Jung’s 1920s theories, which typecasts subjects into a system of 16 categories. The questionnaire, and hence conclusions drawn from it, can be criticised on the basis that it is ipsative, it places people into discreet types and its psychoanalytic roots render it unsuitable for providing quantitative data that can be related to job performance or general personality rating.


 
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look at the list of INFPs 🙂

result of the named individual taking a personality type inventory.
Isabel Myers[14]
Diana, Princess of Wales (who reportedly self-identified as an INFP)[15]
Fyodor Dostoyevsky[16]
Albert Camus[17]
Frank Lloyd Wright[18]
J.R.R. Tolkien[18]
Edgar Allan Poe[18]
William Blake[18]
John Lennon[18]
Jim Morrison[18]
Kurt Cobain[18]
Ian Curtis[18]
Tim Burton[18]
Johnny Depp[18]
Björk[18]
David Lynch[18]
Lisa Kudrow[19]
Jim Henson[20]


 
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Do you find this convincing criticism Mike?

I was genuinely interested and neutral on the subject, but most of his points "against" it seem to be about individuals' attitudes toward it rather than the substance of the test - backed up by what appears to be a vague resentment of its success.


Try this then:
[url= http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die ]http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die[/url]
or even this:
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator#Criticism ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator#Criticism[/url]

I'm an aquarious, BTW, and I'll still be an aquarious next month - the same can't be said of an MBTI result.


 
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For once I'm actually qualified to speak on something! Speaking as someone with a psychology degree, and who is currently studying a masters in Occupational Psychology, Myers Briggs is utter garbage. In simple terms it's made up nonsense, there's no science to it at all.


 
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Yep - I agree.
See my post a couple of mins ago.


 
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But most people don't remember (or state) the percentages. Any time I've taken that test I've come out as introvert so that's all I remember. Do employers who use it take account of the percentages, or do they just categorise people according to the letters?

Good point, considering lots of people seem to default to using the four character shorthand (which of course loses those key percentages) I'm sure lots of employers think an office full of [i]"extroverts"[/i] is ideal meaning a dynamic, vibrant place full of fresh idea's, positive communication and [i]Can Do[/i] attitudes, I wonder if the percentages and the other three scores are given as much weight?

Also how much can an individuals MBTI profile change over time, could taking the test on a Monday morning Vs a Wednesday afternoon significantly skew the results, what about sitting it before Vs after the interview, someone may well adjust their responses depending on their perception of the person the company is looking for...

"Psychometric" testing of any sort is quite limited in what it can really tell you IMO,
TBH I would say rely more on an interview to tell you what you need to know, your instincts for judging personality may be harder to quantify, but they are based on personal experience and understanding, people are generally not bad judges of other people...


 
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In simple terms it's made up nonsense, there's no science to it at all.

Aye. It's probably a nice idea taken too far.

It's not a great leap (or indeed, requiring a deal of science) to ask a question like "do you prefer reading to partying?" and then conclude, hey, you're an introvert / extrovert! Extend that by asking the same question repeatedly with slightly different wording and you've suddenly got a percentage scale. It's not hard to see how you might then get a degree of accuracy in the results, but it's got all the scientific basis of a quiz in a weekend tabloid's colour supplement.

(But then, as an INTP I'm bound to think that.)


 
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Properly constructed psychometric tests can be very powerful, when used in the right way. On the other hand, interviews (especially unstructured ones) are barely better than chance when it comes to predicting success in a role.


 
Posted : 20/10/2014 11:27 am
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Introvert(11%) iNtuitive(50%) Thinking(62%) Judging(33%)

You have slight preference of Introversion over Extraversion (11%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (50%)
You have distinct preference of Thinking over Feeling (62%)
You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (33%)

Not sure what to make of that 😳


 
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INFP
Introvert(56%) iNtuitive(6%) Feeling(6%) Perceiving(33%)

Apparently.


 
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ISTP
Introvert(78%) Sensing(12%) Thinking(88%) Perceiving(22%)

Well there you go.


 
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I am ENTP.

The test has also indicated that I only use 1% of my brain power(Thinking) which means I have 99% brain power in reserve so you lot better watch out coz I will get you ...

😈

edit: oh ya ... I have split personality that can transform myself into ENFP too ... watch out you lot introverted kind ... 😈


 
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I only use 1% of my brain power(Thinking)

To be fair, you didn't need to take a test for that, we could've told you.

(-:


 
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I only use 1% of my brain power(Thinking)

To be fair, you didn't need to take a test for that, we could've told you.

(-:

Yes! Now bow down you insignificants! 😆

[b]Fictional ENTPs:

"Q" (Star Trek--The Next Generation)[/b]

or in your western ideology ... Alexander the Great ( I prefer Genghis Khan)


 
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I only use 1% of my brain power(Thinking)
To be fair, you didn't need to take a test for that, we could've told you.

(-:

Cougar wins the Internetz. 😉


 
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Introvert(100%) iNtuitive(38%) Thinking(38%) Judging(1%)

Who said nobody's 100% Introvert? 😉

This might explain my extreme loathing of my employer's recent move to open plan office space, though...


 
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ISTP when I last did a questionairre years ago. Think I'll try it again and see if it still comes out the same.


 
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In simple terms it's made up nonsense, there's no science to it at all.

As a matter of interest, what sort of personality test would be scientific and non-made-up? (Genuine question, btw).

I score consistently as INTJ. I've seen the difference between introverts and extroverts described as on being drained by company with other people and the other being re-charged. Sounds about right.


 
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I haven't done the test yet but I am an introvert extrovert. My star sign is on the cusp of Leo and Virgo and (although I never, ever believe anything in 'The Stars'), my 'Star' personality is spot on.

About to take the test....


 
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All both some of it and all of it.
I've done a couple, depends who is asking and what they want from me. It also depends what day of the week it is and how I woke up in the morning. The problem I have with this stuff is not the tests but what people do with them and expect it will tell them.


 
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Tested
ISTJ
Introvert(44%) Sensing(75%) Thinking(75%) Judging(1%)


 
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INTP
Introvert(33%)  iNtuitive(25%)  Thinking(38%)  Perceiving(11%)

So nothing special then. !


 
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ISTJ
Introvert(89%)
Sensing(1%)
Thinking(75%)
Judging(56%)

Not sure what sort of neurotic hidaway person that makes me.


 
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As a matter of interest, what sort of personality test would be scientific and non-made-up? (Genuine question, btw).

Costa & McCrae's NEO and Eysenck's EPQ are reasonably highly regarded.
I can go into lots more detail why but would prob bore you to sleep.....


 
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ISTJ
Introvert(89%)
Sensing(1%)
Thinking(75%)
Judging(56%)

[b]Not sure what sort of neurotic hidaway person that makes me.[/b]

Chronic monkey spanking person. Yes? 😯


 
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Costa & McCrae's NEO and Eysenck's EPQ are reasonably highly regarded.
I can go it lots more detail why but would prob bore you to sleep.....

and there be the problem HR need their boxes and simple answers


 
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and there be the problem HR need their boxes and simple answers

Yep, for example
They measure less constructs so can there are less false positive correlations
They don’t categorise people into nice discrete groups
They are slightly more complicated to score as they don’t require ipsative (forced choice) responses
They are not based on outdated 1920 Jungian psychoanalytic theory
They tend to stand up to factor analytic validity checks
Etc…


 
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ESTJ

Extravert(89%) Sensing(44%) Thinking(88%) Judging(11%)
•You have strong preference of Extraversion over Introversion (89%)
•You have moderate preference of Sensing over Intuition (44%)
•You have strong preference of Thinking over Feeling (88%)
•You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (11%)


 
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Interesting that there are so many who veer towards introversion. I'd always thought of MTBing as a pretty social sport.


 
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I'd always thought of MTBing as a pretty social sport.

It's also a very lone sport compared to the likes of Football and Rugby. I just spent 6 1/2 hrs by myself on a bike on sunday....


 
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ENTP but I didn't copy down the results.

😆

B'out right I reckon..


 
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I got bored reading the questions, not sure what that means......


 
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I'm sure lots of employers think an office full of "extroverts" is ideal meaning a dynamic, vibrant place full of fresh idea's, positive communication and Can Do attitudes

Some maybe, but isn't that the result you risk getting if you just rely on interviews?

I expect most employers bothered enough to pay for this kind of testing are keen to avoid ending up with an office full of mouthy dickheads.

Anyway, I've never come across it in a recruitment situation - more in a "we might make you redundant so you better all go on a personal awareness course" kind of situatuon.

It's obviously not at the cutting edge of psychology, but I wonder if it's one of those things that works well in practice just not in theory?


 
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INFP and proud.

+1 for Susan Cain's book "Quiet" if you're an introvert - essential reading.


 
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Interesting that there are so many who veer towards introversion. I'd always thought of MTBing as a pretty social sport.

I don't doubt that you can be introverted and still enjoy social events. I like spending time with friends, but I'm not likely to be the first at a party to be dancing naked on the tables.


 
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ISTP - (seemingly only just):
Introvert(44%) Sensing(1%) Thinking(38%) Perceiving(44%)

Presumably I could have easily been scored as something else, since I was only 1% "sensing". The definition of ISTP makes them (us) sound great but I suspect they all do, which would make the whole thing bollocks and so I'm ooot !


 
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Interesting that there are so many who veer towards introversion. I'd always thought of MTBing as a pretty social sport.

I almost always ride on my own. I'm not anti-social, I'm just pro-solitude.


 
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I like spending time with friends, but I'm not likely to be the first at a party to be dancing naked on the tables.

You need to drink more....


 
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which would make the whole thing bollocks

Why?


 
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Why?
Too much like saying "oooh, my biggest weakness is that I'm such a perfectionist". There's barely a negative trait at all. They should at least list potential shortcomings or negative behaviours to watch for.

I dunno, perhaps sometimes I just expect too much of others and myself
( 😀 )


 
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Too much like saying "oooh, my biggest weakness is that I'm such a perfectionist". There's barely a negative trait at all. They should at least list potential shortcomings or negative behaviours to watch for.
I dunno, perhaps sometimes I just expect too much of others and myself

Interviewer: "What's your biggest weakness?"
Interviewee: "I'm brutally honest."
Interviewer: "I don't think that's a weakness"
Interviewee: "I don't give a shit what you think."


 
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They should at least list potential shortcomings or negative behaviours to watch for.

I think such guides do exist.

I don't think the idea is to try to sort or grade people - to say that one type is better than another - just to help people understand themselves.

The test was a big help for me when I was a bit lost – gave me a bit of self-knowledge, and and helped give me the confidence to make the decisions I needed to make to get my life back on track. (Along with various other things I was doing, including riding my bike (alone).)


 
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Anyone taken this again? I mean twice?

Did you get the same result?


 
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I did a more detailed version of it about 10 years ago and got ENTP. Today, I did the test in the link on this thread and got ENFP.


 
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Introvert(78%) iNtuitive(38%) Thinking(25%) Judging(11%)


 
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I have had to do it a number of times in a couple of different (but related) contexts. My results have been pretty consistent, except that over time I have become less introverted (I used to be 100%), and when I had kids, I softened on the whole 'Perceiving' side (I think having kids means you have to be a bit more deliberate with your decisions).

People are fluid, and the MBTI accounts for that. At least according to the person that introduced me to it many years ago.


 
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Quote:

"Interesting that there are so many who veer towards introversion. I'd always thought of MTBing as a pretty social sport."

Introvert = antisocial is a common misconception. Introverts tend to not like crowds, preferring socialising with a small group over a large one, but getting to know the people they do socialise with better, on average, than the extrovert who talks briefly to lots of people.

Precisely the kind of social contact which is the norm in MTBing, in other words...

As mentioned above, "Quiet; the power of introverts in a world that can't stop talking" is well worth reading. Particularly if you're an extrovert, I would suggest!


 
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ISTJ but I didn't understand half the questions.


 
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