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Perhaps you need a SHIT filter for your youtube browsing....
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TG: do you smoke a lot of pot? Do you feel like you have lost control over aspects of your life? Have you suffered any traumatic events recently that might have you searching for answers?
A lot of folk getting drawn into conspiracy stuff seem to fit into one or more of these groups.
It'll be [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/these-make-the-truthers-look-sensible ]flat earth[/url] next. Mark my words.
Turner guy, you're a very naughty boy... 😆
As there were so many people involved in the Apollo missions and the USSR would have been watching everything the Yanks did at that time do you not think that something would have leaked out by now if all these missions were faked?
I'm pretty sure the Soviets would have been jumping up & down about how it was all faked at the time, if only to demoralise America.
It'll be flat earth next. Mark my words.
First manned mission to the Shadow Object?
Makes you think!
Eerrr..no.
There's still time to correct your attempt to spell the word 'Apollo' though! 🙂
As a schoolboy I watched the original moon landing in 1969 and thought it looked fake then..I still haven't changed my mind
This should cover a fair bit of it:
Oooh oooh!
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Makes you think.
Didn't the last thread TurnerGuy start run for several pages, being poked every time it slowed, only for him to turn round and say he was effectively just trolling? Apologies to TG if I've got that wrong but that's how I remember it!
The smiley face suggests to me that he's aiming for the same effect this time so I won't be joining in, fun as it is to pull apart CT nonsense.
Didn't the last thread TurnerGuy start run for several pages, being poked every time it slowed, only for him to turn round and say he was effectively just trolling? Apologies to TG if I've got that wrong but that's how I remember it!
Yup just like his Halal thread.
Perhaps you need a SHIT filter for your youtube browsing....
It was trending on MSN, just popped up when I started up Edge, although I usually use Firefox...
Interesting reflection though...
As a schoolboy I watched the original moon landing in 1969 and thought it looked fake then..I still haven't changed my mind
Obviously as a schoolboy in 69 you would have had a very good idea exactly what a real moon landing would look like.....
As a schoolboy I watched the original moon landing in 1969 and thought it looked fake then. I still haven't changed my mind
And what about the live experiments still going on today from equipment delivered to the moon during the Apollo missions? e.g. mirrors placed on the surface we fire lasers off to measure with extreme accuracy the distance of the moon from the Earth and hence it's rate of decay from Earth's orbit?
I'm sure if it was a fake the Russians would have sent up a probe to the moon to photograph the supposed landing sites to photograph empty fields and once and for all disprove the claims. That would be a huge political coup.
I'm sure if it was a fake the Russians would have sent up a probe to the moon to photograph the supposed landing sites to photograph empty fields and once and for all disprove the claims. That would be a huge political coup.
Yeah but that relies on the fact the russians actually went into space too.
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To be fair faking the moon landings as an idea has more credibility than the 9/11 conspiracy theories. Still obvious guff though just more of a rational idea.
Yeah but that relies on the fact the russians actually went into space too.
You do know that space isn't real?
You do know that space isn't real?
Yeah you should see the money I make painting the sky every night
You do know that space isn't real?
It's a dome, right?
It was trending on MSN, just popped up when I started up Edge, although I usually use Firefox...
...following up with a blatant attempt to start a browser wars thread. I'm out.
I wonder if there's much crossover between flat earthers and moon landing conspiracy theorists.
I mean, according to the FE'ers the moon isn't very far away, so presumably it wouldn't be *that* difficult to actually get there?
2 "conspiracy" "theories" I believe.
Moon landing was fake, cant possibly have been real. Van Allen Belt
911 inside job.
the others are mostly nonsense!
organic355 - Member
2 "conspiracy" "theories" I believe.Moon landing was fake, cant possibly have been real.
Well it could just be rocket science
hodgynd -As a schoolboy I watched the original moon landing in 1969 and thought it looked fake then..I still haven't changed my mind
Get yerself on the Youtube conspiracy bus right now! You'll have REAL evidence galore to support your FACTS and you can smugly walk around KNOWING you were right all these years.
wonder if there's much crossover between flat earthers and moon landing conspiracy theorists.
I was doing a bit of watching of some flat earth stuff last week, and weirdly they are often dismissive of other conspiracy theories, and get wound up a bit if you lump them in with other bonkersness.
@kenneththecurtain
Not from my point of view ..Ive seen the pictures taken from the moon ..definitely round ! 8)
You know what though - the Vietnam documentary series- America was in a right old mess through the end of the 60s and yet there was NASA developing a proper good rocket and sending some draft-dodgers up into space... it is quite hard to fathom.
Dez..calm down son ..it can't be good for you getting all wound up!
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind you can believe whatever you like ..thats fine by me ..Im only saying what I thought ..its just my own opinion ..chill man 😉
cant possibly have been real
I love the way conspiracy theorists are just so sure about stuff. No ifs or buts. Just "I've decided it didn't happen" must be great to live in that sort of world.
I wonder if there's much crossover between flat earthers and moon landing conspiracy theorists.
Most FE'ers believe that all of space is fake. Or at least very different from how the [i]sheeple[/i] describe it. For them the moon is actually very close and small, inside "the dome". And naturally NASA are part of the satanic Freemason plot to cover up the truth, so yeah all the moon landing stuff and modern stuff like the satellites and the international space station are completely fake.
I am sure there is a Mitchell and Webb sketch somewhere where they compared the cost of the moon mission with the cost of faking the moon mission. Firing a rocket into the sky and then not landing etc. I think they worked out the only difference was the cost of the catering.
I am sure there is a Mitchell and Webb sketch somewhere where they compared the cost of the moon mission with the cost of faking the moon mission. Firing a rocket into the sky and then not landing etc. I think they worked out the only difference was the cost of the catering.
...errr? Look up!
Edit: Sorry! Sorry! that's the CT one that's linked. Yes, there is a moon landing hoax one too.
cant possibly have been real
Is it even worth asking if there is any reasoning behind this statement of faith?
nickc
..or maybe they have just seen all of the programmes on The Discovery Channel to reaffirm what they believe ..have debated the points to death previously but have come to the conclusion that they are not going to change anyone's mind and it's a waste of time trying to do so ?
Believe what you like it matters not a jot..
However just to cloud the water ..I do believe in aliens 😀
[i]getting all wound up![/i]
I'm about as far from wound up as is possible my dear.
Here, watch this!
Are YOU MAD! MOON LAnding FAKED!! 👿 Thats so ridiculous! MY BROTHER was in the bloody NASA CREW!! People who don't believe it are MENTAL! I'll KILL THEM!!
Still not wound up. 🙂
Believe what you like it matters not a jot..
It just helps us keep the list up to date....
Do flat earthers also believe the moon is flat? 😉
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Edit: Sorry! Sorry! that's the CT one that's linked. Yes, there is a moon landing hoax one too.
It's at the end of that one. I thought we might as well cover a few in one go. 😀
to reaffirm what they believe
...in the face of all the available evidence, you mean 😆
I've no problem folk who want to be critical of accepted versions of anything, but once you start to make choices of credibility that make a nonsense about your choice of which version you're going to accept, then I just get bored TBH.
Yeah ..I know what you mean ( yawn )
I am convinced that the vast majority of flat earthers/apollo fakers are just trolling, as there is a certain type of person who is 100% guaranteed to go apoplectic at the mere mention of it. A mate regularly gets into massive, swearing arguments on FB over this type of thing. As such I approve and try to promote both theories whenever possible. It's just trolling gold 🙂
Heh - now knowing how angry Buzz Aldrin gets when people accuse him of faking it all, I'd *definitely* wind him up 😉
Wish I had known this when I met him in the 80's
Rachel
Audio track is a little sweary
[i]I am convinced that the vast majority of flat earthers... are just trolling[/i]
I thought that when the flat earth thread came up the other week. Then I watched a couple of things, read a couple of things and.. they really are [s]THAT STUPID.[/s] Sorry, not wound up.. that stupid.
There's a point to the flat earthers, and that's to make all the other conspiracy theorists look crazy by lumping them into the same pot.
So, FE is a conspiracy designed to discredit conspiracy theorists 🙂
Rod Hull - NOT A REAL EMU!?!
WATCH CAREFULLY..
The plumage us all wrong for a start.
Yeah, there are definitely a good number of FE'ers that are just trolls and just want to watch the world burn. But they are usually very easy to spot.
The true believers tend to be either bible literalists or people heavily into other conspiracy stuff that don't have a very good grasp of science, maths, geometry or reality. And there are LOTS of them.
([url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/these-make-the-truthers-look-sensible ]Flat Earth thread is this way[/url])
cant possibly have been realIs it even worth asking if there is any reasoning behind this statement of faith?
just do a bit of research yourself, Van allen belt, why havent we been back since? (oh yeah the technology got destroyed). the lack of impact crater on the moon landing site (but many footprints), the waving flag, multiple light sources, no visible stars, duplicate backdrops used in different scenes, rock samples brought back match those from antarctica....much much more.
believe what you want just dont dismiss it without 1st researching yourself.
Van allen belt,
Not my speciality
why havent we been back since?
What is the value in returning?
(oh yeah the technology got destroyed).
It could all be rebuilt much better
the lack of impact crater on the moon landing site (but many footprints),
how hard was the landing?
Like we said evidence....
So just for LOLs, NASA faked six missions that landed on the moon as well as the other orbital ones and just for giggles faked the Apollo 13 near disaster? No holes in that.
Yeah you'd think that once they faked one they'd be pretty glad they got away with it. Why fake more and add to the chance they'd get caught? Not to mention the Russians joining in and faking theirs too. 🙄
nasa fakes stuff 😆
Woo hoo - prominent Flat Earther Mark Sargent. Yaaay!
Van Allen belts you say ?
[url= http://www.braeunig.us/apollo/VABraddose.htm ]Complete Explanation[/url]
[i]knowing how angry Buzz Aldrin gets when people accuse him of faking it all[/i]
Watching that vid, Buzz was pretty nonchalant until the moron stood in front of him and said "You're a coward and a liar".. so, wound up about what hmm?
[i]Not to mention the Russians joining in and faking theirs too[/i]
And the Chinese!
Don't forget kids, this is all filmed underwater in a giant pool with no air bubbles or in a plane doing zero-G dives or CGI:
[url= http://www.iflscience.com/space/this-flatearther-is-going-to-launch-himself-in-a-homemade-rocket-on-saturday/ ]This Flat-Earther Is Going To Launch Himself In A Homemade Rocket On Saturday[/url]
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Van Allen belts you say ?Complete Explanation
the van allen belt is touted as one of the reasons they cant go back
Love his quote there: "I don't believe in science. I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction."
Amazing stuff. Hope he survives.
I've met some of the https://copenhagensuborbitals.com/ team. Their stuff looks [i]considerably[/i] less shonky than his and they are still not at the stage where they can put a person in it safely.
the van allen belt is touted as one of the reasons they cant go back
by whom ? I've never heard that argument.
But then; I'm not a conspiracy theorist !
[b]Van Allen Belts[/b]-"In fact, Dr. Van Allen helped to design the Apollo lunar trajectories, which were engineered specifically to lessen radiation exposure. Despite the conspiracists' insistence that Dr. Van Allen agrees with them, he has rejected the claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts, calling it "nonsense"."
[b]why havent we been back since?[/b] (oh yeah the technology got destroyed)
Why should we go back? It's very expensive, tere is no particular reason to go, other space programmes (ISS in particular) give a better return on the investment. I've no idea where you got the 'technology got destroyed' thing from, but it's on display in museums all over the world.
[b]the lack of impact crater on the moon landing site[/b]
An impact crater would indicated a landing that would have killed the astronauts. The whole point of the mission was to get peiople there and bring them back alive.
[b]the waving flag[/b]
"the video you see where the flag's moving is because the astronaut just placed it there, and the inertia from when they let go kept it moving," said spaceflight historian Roger Launius, of the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. In space, there is no atmosphere to damp down the motion, so it would go on moving for a lot longer thna it would in a still atmosphere on earth.
....and similar, logical, scientific explanations exist for all of the other things you listed. If you really have done your research you would be well aware of that. But you have deliberately chosen to believe one set of explanations, the one that contradicts science and engineering, rather than another. I don't know why you would make that choice and I'm not going to speculate.
the van allen belt is touted as one of the reasons they cant go back
It really isn't.
Some conspiracy nuts have jumped on comments made by Kelly Smith about the Orion Deep Space Mission to the planet Mars in this NASA video:
He describes how they have to test the Orion craft. Which is clear evidence (if you are insane) that they have never done this before.
3:00 to 3:47 is the "controversial" bit.
organic355 - Memberthe lack of impact crater on the moon landing site
You don't get an impact crater when you land. You get an impact crater when you crash. You can find some impact craters at airfields, they're not evidence of a succesful plane landing.
Pffft. That's just proof that planes are fake Northwind.
If the earth is flat surely that'd put a stop to the Hollow Earth theory. I mean who doesn't believe in that!
It's the Moon that's hollow. Do keep up.
Oh, dear God !It's the Moon that's hollow. Do keep up.
You mean it's, well, it's [b][i]Swiss[/i][/b] cheese ?
I wonder if there's much crossover between flat earthers and moon landing conspiracy theorists.I mean, according to the FE'ers the moon isn't very far away, so presumably it wouldn't be *that* difficult to actually get there?
Surely if the earth is flat you can just wait until daytime then jump off the edge and land on the moon that way. Getting back, you wait until night and jump off the moon to land on earth.
Simple.
Don't be daft.
The edge is the impenetrable Antarctic ice wall and is protected by thousands of UN patrol boats that won't let you near it.
Plus the moon stays up in the sky. Because it is visible from other parts of the disk.
Simple.
I wonder if there's much crossover between flat earthers and moon landing conspiracy theorists.
There must be a Venn diagram around for that.
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wobbliscott - Membermirrors placed on the surface we fire lasers off to measure with extreme accuracy the distance of the moon from the Earth and hence it's rate of decay from Earth's orbit?
How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real
Hmm, just wondering how Mad Mike Hughes will take it if he ends up in orbit...
More likely have his belief in Heaven debunked though eh.
How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real
maybe its the lasers that are not real! have we considered that? I've always been suspicious of lasers, they just don't look real to me.
You have to be impressed my NASAs tenacity in faking another mission (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter) to photograph amongst other things the Apollo 17 landing site.
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