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he's bored, most likely, as plenty others have suggested.
i'd have thought 20 miles a lot for a dog like that.
rather than kongs, which are 'ok' imo, but require some sort of gunk to keep the treats in, try food dispenser things for half of his food. a ball or some other shape with a hole in it, put half his food in the bowl, half in the toy, and it'll keep him amused for 10 mins or so. doesn't sound like much, but that's 20 mins extra a day he's kept occupied for, working both mentally and physically, for very little effort on your part. you can get these from pet stores.
the other comment you made about what happened with your sprog points to the continuing, underlying problem, where he doesn't know where in the pecking order he is.


 
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Posted : 06/08/2011 5:33 pm
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DeadlyDarcy aye.


 
Posted : 06/08/2011 5:39 pm
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Anal dilation causes vagal stimulation, apparently.


 
Posted : 06/08/2011 7:08 pm
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Maybe the dog just needs a home without children, good luck with re-homing him. Nothing wrong with that, it's nobodies fault. Life has moved on and the dog can't cope with the changes by the sound of things.


 
Posted : 06/08/2011 7:20 pm
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Oxboy in one/sadly totally agree. I'm attached to hora junior otherwise I'd move out with bingo ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 06/08/2011 7:25 pm
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there is a chemical you can get. We have a different one for our cat called Feliway which we have used when he has cystitis to help relax him and we use it in the car when taking him on holiday. It is like a glade plugin so we plug it into an inverter in the car.

Back to the dog...have you seen someone who can help with his behaviour and also educate you? I agree with the others that chemicals are not the answer (we use them temporarily on the cat as cystitis turns fatal quickly).

You should be able to avoid rehoming but the behaviour expert will say if its just you, he and your lifestyle are not compatible.


 
Posted : 06/08/2011 8:57 pm
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He snapped at/tried getting to my son. Its not a risk that we can take. We have a duty of care to the lad first and foremost. Bingo will be happy with caring owners. A scarred child would live with one incident for life.


 
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ahh just saw that - he sounds like he will be happier off somewhere else. ๐Ÿ™

Probably a bad time to suggest it but (and this goes for others with kids) if you decide to get another dog in the future then there are breeds that are "easier" to have around kids (and your bike). The 'explore dogs' things are good at events like Crufts and the Game Fair. An example is our springer, she is amazing with my two nephews with ADHD and protects them like they are hers. The cat on the other hand will run away or hide all day and get cystitis due to the stress of them being here!


 
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seriously - look into aromatherapy for your dog.

Lavender oil applied in a solution or bath is very relaxing for humans.

Sure it would be ok for a dog in smaller quantities - check with a vet or specialist though.


 
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get rid of the dog, it could attack youre child dont risk it!


 
Posted : 07/08/2011 4:03 pm
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So I use aromatherapy and hope the dog doesn't try to reassert himself again?

Blimey. What next? Cambelt changes using elastic bands glued together?


 
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Sorry to hear about your problem having had dogs my entire life i know how attached you get to them. The other posts are correct he doesn't know his place in your pack any longer an is trying to figure it out, this could probably be remedied with training/time but like you say you can't risk it. I own an English Bull and as fond as i am of her if she snapped/growled at a kid it would be straight to the vets for the injection, game over! Luckily she is amazingly maternal with everything but cats ๐Ÿ™„


 
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have you considered getting a running machine? not for the dog you understand, you look like you're carrying a few extra pounds ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 07/08/2011 6:43 pm
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The pie shops of Trafford would fall into a recession. I owe it to them to keep the pie industry alive ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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Hope yer not offended by this Hora, and no offence is meant at all, but whenever you post about you and Bingo these two always spring to mind:

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Posted : 07/08/2011 6:52 pm
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Strangely that's visually quite close.

He's sat on my lap now, on the sofa whilst the whirlwind slams and bangs round outside the living room door.

TBH he's probably going to a BETTER home. No small noisy child that keeps him awake at night. He won't get things thrown at him, chased and he'll get someone who gives him focus again. Just because I'm not a 55yr old woman (binners) doesn't mean he can't be content.

Monksie if you read this topic- I did think of you but thinking back Bingo has always acted alarmed by pre-teen children. He's tried bringing them down by nipping their ankles when run around/stiffened etc and the charity (yes ulterior motive is always there) described him as typical over-dominating male of the species. Sad really but he needs intense retraining and no-children.


 
Posted : 07/08/2011 6:59 pm
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Yeah but what if he misses you, pines away and dies of a broken heart? ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

Bingo I mean, not Binners...


 
Posted : 07/08/2011 7:00 pm
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(meant in a light hearted way) aromatherapy for the boy? ๐Ÿ˜€

tbh you could probably sort it very easily. Make a bit of proper time for him and then gradually build up a relationship between him and your son by getting your son to play with him (gently for a short time) and feed him - little by little. Get the dog to associate nice happy things with your son - ie getting a ball thrown for him, food time, walk time etc etc.


 
Posted : 07/08/2011 7:04 pm
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Its a shame you need to go your seperate ways but i'm sure its for the best.

Check out a great book by Matt Haig called The Last Family in England, it's about family life from a dogs point of view,certainly leaves you with a different view of your family pet.


 
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[url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Living-Kids-Dogs-Without-Losing/dp/1933562668/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312746800&sr=8-1 ]Living with kids and dogs without losing your mind[/url] book from Amazon is quite good.


 
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Sounds like you've got bored of him, and now have found an excuse to get rid of the dog.

Mind you he will have a much better life away from you; so I guess things will have worked out for the best, just a shame you got a dog in the first place as you've always come across as the type of person who shouldn't be allowed to look after anything, other than a plastic plant.

Mind you; I am sure its not your fault ...... as it never seems to be.


 
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i believe that adaptil is the thing you are looking for. i have no idea about it's effectiveness though. if it's like felliway for cats, that definitely works.


 
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Have you tried the suggestions of DAP and Felliway plugins, works for most people.

As said before it does sound like you're the problem, rather than the dog, although it now shows that the dog is the problem, He needs the mental/physical stimulation, probably is getting jealous, but this isn't the dogs fault.

You seem quite set on getting rid of the dog, so I would go with that, doesn't seem you want to put a lot of effort in to it. With the amount of dogs trying to be re-homed he'll be lucky to live 6 months, try and give him away to someone that will care for the dog for all of the rest of its life. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Dog psychology is quite simple once the penny drops.


 
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chocolate - lots and lots of it, cooking for preference.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 12:44 pm
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Sounds like you've got bored of him, and now have found an excuse to get rid of the dog.

Bored? You get bored within the first few months when the puppy-stage wears off not 6yrs later. Hes getting rehomed after TWO incidents involving a child. We've had dogs all our lives and I pride myself that Bingo has had 6 great years with us. Everyone remarks that he is very very active and happy for a 6yr old Westie.

I drop him off tomorrow. You know this is the hardest decision but one that I can not reverse.

Again, I'll repeat. Why do people thinking rehoming a dog is a sad thing for the dog? The home he goes to may be even better than the care he got from me. Hes a warm and affection dog- one that dog owners warm to so I doubt a new (Westie-experienced) owner wouldn't warm to his good points (of which there are many).

DAP never worked- we tried that after we brought the baby home.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 1:23 pm
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Good luck with it Hora, would be in bits if I was in your situation.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 1:28 pm
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I'm not good right now.

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Then MTFU; and live up to the responsibilities you took on when you got the dog, rather than giving up like you always seem to.

You seem to be under the impression that the dog is the problem, however from everything you've said about the dog and how you look after it; the issue is you.

Hopefully you will do better with your child; and won't *give* up after a few years as its too difficult.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 1:59 pm
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West Highland Whites are known not to be good with small children. Are you suggesting that after two close misses the issue isn't the situation but more to do with an owner that has a puppy for Christmas?

Are you off your head?

I've had a closs miss on Friday with a claw mark across a toddlers eyelid then an thwarted-attack.

I have a duty of care first and foremost to a small child. The dog is secondary to this.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 2:03 pm
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Happier times ๐Ÿ™

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Oh do stop bleating you big blouse. You've got a dog and spoiled it rotten and now you've got a kid and things have changed.

Sort it out, preferably without all the drama and self pity, and preferably not here.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 2:46 pm
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You never met Bingo. Crackers and a real character. ๐Ÿ™


 
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Happier times

You never met Bingo. Crackers and a real character

This thread is turning in to a Mills and Boon novel.


 
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You never met Bingo. Crackers and a real character

I've had a closs miss on Friday with a claw mark across a toddlers eyelid then an thwarted-attack.

yeah, sounds lovely.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 3:00 pm
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You never met Bingo. Crackers and a real character.

[b]MTFU and get rid of it before it bites your sons face off.[/b]

You are supposed to be the boss, followed by your missus, followed by your kids. The dog is at the bottom of the pile. It's the only way.

Cute dogs do not make good pets unless they are treated correctly and know where their place is. Yours is showing signs of being anxious and trying to establish himself up the pecking order. And it's probably too late to do anything with him.


 
Posted : 08/08/2011 3:05 pm
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Amen.


 
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