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I could hold Indian citizenship. Im not sure I want to....


 
Posted : 13/03/2017 11:20 pm
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Apart from those EU nations with large landmass the rest will cause claustrophobia ... 😆

You should choose from one with large landmass like ... Spain, France, Germany, Poland, Norway, Sweden, Finland and .... perhaps Ukraine (they want you there).


 
Posted : 13/03/2017 11:47 pm
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I was born in Jamaica, of Jamaican roots. My brother recently claimed and obtained Jamaican (dual, with British) nationality due to the fact that his parents were both Jamaican nationals. He has done it for purely financial reasons. He's in the oil industry and as a 'local' he will be better off if he gets a job in the Caribbean. I have not done so but could do if I chose to I suppose.

Back in pre-EU membership days (remember them; you soon will) I knew a family who frequently visited France from deepest, darkest Essex. Dad was British, Mum was French. They had two children who thus qualified for dual nationality. The parents decided that it would be a good thing to ensure that the kids had dual-nationality and thus made certain that it was so. The main reason for this was to try to improve passage through customs/ passport control, they just headed for the shortest queue on their frequent cross channel trips.

Not long after Tony's 18th birthday he was called up by the French military for National Service.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 1:09 am
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Leffe - no down sides to having dual nationality as yet but taxes can be a pain if you are not careful. We decided to close all our assets in Canada for the time being apart from our pensions.

Also have a OCI (overseas citizen of India) card for India which allows me to invest and also work without a visa etc but it is of scant use from an economic pov for us.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 1:12 am
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Dual UK Australian citizen, pretty handy as the fiancee is Australian. Only downsides are having to vote or get fined (i don't mind voting but Australian politics is deeply deeply uninspiring).
Fiancee is dual Australian US citizen. Some bigger tax implications and also very expensive to give up if you decide to. The US one can't be passed down any further unless we live in the US as well. Also Trump


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 1:44 am
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What have you got to lose?

you'll gain a PITA if you have to do 2 tax returns.. especially if the tax years don't align


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 3:43 am
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I have an Australian birth certificate , British passport.
Thought about it , but never looked into it .As the parts of Oz I saw were less appealing than I'd prefer.Plus ,current problems I hear of,put me off more,even post bloody brexit!


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 8:02 am
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Like a few of the folks on here, I'm a 10y+ Belgian resident hence I do intend to grab a second nationality.

Its on my list of things to do this year, as is get dual British for my kids (who are only Belgian at this moment)

I just don't look forward to the admin....


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 9:19 am
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There was a process to vote from overseas.

British citizens can vote from overseas for up to 15 years after leaving, so unfortunately Roter Stern can't vote any more.

As said, there can be tax implications depending on the dual nationality. And yes, the US is a royal pain, very very expensive to revoke. I know a few families split Spanish and British parents and Spain don't formally allow dual nationality over 18, so they're pretty buggered by Brexit. I also know some Northern Irish who have taken an Irish passport. I work in academia so people expect to move for work. It's the uncertainty that is most worrying and I know many people are thinking of getting out of the UK now while there are job options just in case the 'negotiations' don't protect them and then they (and their families) are stuffed.

I have an Australian birth certificate , British passport.
Thought about it , but never looked into it .As the parts of Oz I saw were less appealing than I'd prefer.Plus ,current problems I hear of,put me off more,even post bloody brexit!

You've gone to the wrong bits 😉 Everywhere has good and bad points...


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 9:25 am
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Whinging Pom


 
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😀


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 9:52 am
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Starting to look into Swedish citizenship due to Brexit, wasn't before as I didn't see a need.

But seems like a good backup plan now. Everybody needs a backup plan 🙂

@HowsyourDad and Bream, how long did it take?


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 9:59 am
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I was hoping to get an Irish passport but it looks like it may not now be an option.

Maybe Scotland will have a similar rule to Ireland (ie anyone born north or south of border can have a passport). Scotland rejoins EU and for a modest fee we have all have dual nationality.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 10:02 am
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I've got permanent residency in Japan, not really planning on using it though except for the odd visit. Requires a bit of maintenance so I'll probably lose it in a few more years. Can't see myself moving back long-term even if brexshit goes tits up.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 10:13 am
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hi Swedish chef, it took around 5 weeks I think. depends on your circumstances of course but I think you are similar to me? Swedish wife/sambo, children born in Sweden? full time job and proficiency with language. not that the kids and job matter. don't quote me on that!


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 10:22 am
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Yup that sums it up nicely. Thanks.

When did you apply?


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 10:32 am
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US one seems the worst - no matter where you live you are still liable to US taxes.
Boris Johnson got hit with a big tax bill when he sold his London home as there is no relief for capital gains on selling your home in the USA. He talked about renouncing his US citizenship but don't think he actually did.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 10:44 am
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"no relief" is actually $250,000 of relief, double that for a couple. That's probably not enough for MPs flipping houses in London though.

He has repeatedly promised to renounce his citizenship, but we all know how little his word is worth.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 10:52 am
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Starting to look into Swedish citizenship due to Brexit, wasn't before as I didn't see a need.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/28/sweden-bring-back-conscription-2018 ]This[/url] is probably worth looking in to, particularly if you have children.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 11:11 am
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I'm quite likely to apply for an Irish passport soon. My Dad was born in Dublin so I think I'm a shoo in, although TBH I haven't really looked into the process yet.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 11:23 am
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Yeah saw that, thanks.

Having many Swedish friends who have done military service I have no issues with that. Also the headline is somewhat click bait like.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 11:23 am
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Just to clear up some of the inaccuracies around Irish citizenship mentioned earlier. From the [url= https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/citizenship/born-abroad/born-abroad-citizenship-by-descent-faqs/ ]Irish Department of Foreign Affairs:[/url]

[b]My Grandad was born in Ireland but neither of my parents have Irish Passports. Am I entitled to apply for Irish citizenship?[/b]
Yes. An application for Irish citizenship through Foreign Births Registration can be submitted by any person with a grandparent born on the island of Ireland even if your parents do not hold Irish passports.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 11:37 am
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Dual UK/French by birth - as posted above the only downsides :
1/Consular support - if in one of your nationalities you are that one no ifs.
2/ Got my call up papers for national service - deferred as i was in full time education - otherwise I would have had to do it - now this was in the early 80`s no call ups for a long time now.
It all really depends if one of the nationalities does not allow it you have no options anyway.
For tax and residency purposes I thing the 6 months +1 day rule applies .

Edit - Grandfather born in Ireland - so technically I may have option of a 3rd.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 11:44 am
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Mrsalmon, you will need a copy of your Irish parents birth certificate, a certified copy from Irish records is ok, your own, proof of residence, bills etc. A few signed photos and the right amount of money.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 11:51 am
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I had to explain to my "generations English" father-in-law the other day that he couldn't just acquire an Irish passport to avoid post-Brexit isolation...!

My grandfather was Swiss. A quick looks tells me I have no chance of that, and it's not especially helpful in the context of the EU.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 12:02 pm
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@Swedishchef I applied in November last year.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 12:37 pm
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I know a few families split Spanish and British parents and Spain don't formally allow dual nationality over 18, so they're pretty buggered by Brexit.

It's more the paperwork that's putting me off! (There's also a language and general knowledge test, but I'm not worried about either of those. Although I'm sure both cost money...)


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 12:52 pm
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A few signed photos and the right amount of money

Now I imagine someone at the Irish embassy deciding on what the right amount of money is, depending on whether they like the look of you or not.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 1:24 pm
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Just submitted my forms for Irish (through a grandparent); and since I'm in Canada I should be eligible for Canadian citizenship in the next few years.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 1:54 pm
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Now I imagine someone at the Irish embassy deciding on what the right amount of money is, depending on whether they like the look of you or not.

You jest

http://www.thejournal.ie/immigrant-investor-programme-2023070-Apr2015/

Seriously, i think the price is about 80 euros for the passport. and a further c40 if you want a plastic card passport.


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 2:04 pm
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Funnily enough, having an Irish passport and nationality, I've wondered about going the other way as my Wife and Kids are all UK passport holders, in case it all goes really right wing!


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 4:51 pm
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Going the other way and considering a UK citizenship. £1236 at the moment (that's after filling out the 85 page form for a piece of paper 'proving' something I already had i.e. right of permanent residence). This is before Cruela de Vil decides that it is 'people's mandate' to charge the dirty foreigners twice that for the privilege of continuing to live and work in UK. Bitter? Moi?


 
Posted : 14/03/2017 5:24 pm
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Still waiting for the process Swedish Chef; will be 8 weeks and counting on Wednesday!


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 1:28 pm
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This thread inspired me to kick off the process, so we'll see what happens and how long it will take.

Online form sent in and paid for. Very easy.
Passport sent off registered post. No business trips for a bit then.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 2:50 pm
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There's a very easy passport recal service on their website, says you need to give them 10 days notice, just called mine back and arrived just within the 10 days. Also got a letter saying they don't need it back so that part of it is done now.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 3:18 pm
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Top knowledge, many thanks 🙂


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 3:26 pm
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I'm quite happy having a NZ passport as well....
It just means more options when everything goes completely tits up here.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 6:02 pm
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Turns out that Belgium appears to be quite easy. They have both language and 'integration' requirements but working and paying tax here for 5 years appears to cover both

If only they had good beer....


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 6:05 pm
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I am British, married to an Irish lady and have lived 20 years in Ireland. I looked into getting an Irish passport last year and I have to become a citizen first and that costs about €1,000. So I just renewed my British passport......for now.


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 11:41 pm
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Check rules on dual nationality boys and girls.

I think Germany for example allow dual nationality with another EU state but not a non-EU one.

I may be wrong it assuming I'm right getting dualed now is sensible - in Germany at least.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 9:02 am
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That is true. German friend had to give his up when he took Australian citizenship.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 9:46 am
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Going to (try and) get Italian dual nationality, not for me so much but my eldest daughter is expressing a desire to go to university in yurp


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 10:38 am
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I already have a second nationality (French) but I need a first one in order not to be kicked out (British) potentially - problem is I don't think you can have both although my wife and kids are British.

My main issue is of principle - if I am not wanted here I'll **** off back to Frogland. But then who will run my British export business employing British people and who will contribute to the economy (including fiscally) as much as I do ?

What I really dislike is being used as a negotiating pawn. We have no negotiating leverage against the 27 so we the EU nationals seem to be the gvt only negotiating asset, which is a serious worry.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 10:42 am
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I have French and British, nickfrog. There are all sorts of conventions between Britain and France over and above EU treaties which makes having both quite simple on a practical level.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:00 pm
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I looked into getting an Irish passport last year and I have to become a citizen first and that costs about €1,000

Hell's teeth! I can apply for Irish citizenship (grandparents on my deadbeat dad's side) too but that's a bit spendy 😯


 
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