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It's on all the usual news channels I think.
What with trade deals being needed the president/ government in the US is going to have a profound effect on us and our NHS, food standards and Lord knows what else...
Anyone else watching tonight?
Tempted.
Why would you put yourself through that?
I might, don’t finish work until midnight so home about 0045, I usually watch a bit of telly before bed anyway, might as well be that.
I'd rather eat my own shite.
Just drop some acid and record yourself talking to yourself. That'll be a much more sensible conversation to listen to and a better excuse for staying up late.
I’d rather eat nobeers shite
I’d rather eat nobeers shite
I'd rather eat your shite after you'd eaten Nobeer's shite...
We’re into a “human centipede” scenario here
No. But I’ll be reading the aftermath first thing in the morning.
I’m not sure there’s much point to these anymore, everyone is so entrenched in their tribal beliefs, but Trump really has no business winning this election, but would you bet on him losing? We’re 15 years from the last time the centre left won and election in the U.K and 8 in the US and even that was only a partial win as they couldn’t secure ‘the house’.
Maybe this will be the turning point.
Damn. Now I feel hungry.
I probably won't watch it but I have a Washington Post subscription so I may set it for alerts. I tend to wake a round 3am anyway for a while.
Tempted as I am off work tomorrow, which means my usual routine of 2 cans, a bit of telly, fall asleep on sofa half way through 2nd can, wake up in middle of the night to go to bed/toilet might mean I wake up in time to watch it.
Watching trump play pigeon chess and hoping Biden doesn't say something mad, no ta (especially since the maddest thing Biden could say, will still be less mad than the average Trump press conference, but will be treated like the end of the world)
No chance, I can’t afford a new telly, and I’ve got too many heavy objects around to risk the desire to chuck something at Angry Tinkerbell’s smug smirk. 🤬
Trump will have a tremendous debate. He'll be tremendous
I'm tempted to watch it, although I think it's going to be exactly like a 90's WWF championship warm up, lots of theatrics, posturing and sweat, possibly a chair flying.
2 old giffers trying desperately not to fluff their lines, I think ill pass
But I dearly hope Biden takes him to the cleaners & exposes Trump for the corrupt, racists dirt bag he is
You could put a chimpanzee throwing it’s own shite against the alphabet up for debate against trump and the chimp would be the obvious winner in forming a coherent sentence, yet I’ll try and stay awake to watch whilst reading responses to the debate on Twitter.
Will watch if I'm still awake. It's gonna be a bit of a show, I think.
I won't watch it - I cannot stand any politicians making speeches or debating - but I will be on line first thing in the morning for all the reaction from the press and to find out what happened.
I'll watch the highlights tomorrow. Much prefer watching Bozo the Clown being taken apart on a Wednesday lunchtime by that forensic bloke.
I still think Trump will win, because of the peculiarities of the American electoral college system. Much the same way the Tories can romp home with all the spoils despite only taking 40% of the total votes. Two broken systems masquerading as democracy where the majority are disenfranchised.
I am, I feel it's important to watch these things live to independently understand and get a feel for how history will view current events. Reading about something in opinion columns doesn't cut it.
Trump 2020 or Biden 2020 will be a defining moment in 21st century history.
I'm for the shite eating. 😆
I still think Trump will win, because of the peculiarities of the American electoral college system.
Not to mention the peculiarities of the American voters.
Not to mention the peculiarities of the American voters.
Taking Devash's attitude though means that the left will yet again fail to understand the root causes of right wing populism.
Maybe I'm weird but I'm half tempted to go "Kurtz" and go and live like a redneck to try and understand it.
I do wonder just how much difference it'll ultimately make in how people vote?
Surely, those that can't stand him have made up their mind a long, long time ago.
His base are that partisan that he could squat down on the stage and make stool and they'd still say it was one of the greatest performances by a politician in the entire history of politics. And that his stool was one of the finest ever to be discharged by a human being.
I think you'd find more truly neutral people by this stage at an Old Firm game.
Still can't believe Democrats have no one better than Biden. He is borderline senile. Bit late now but no way he can keep himself on track against Trump. Unless its some amazing master plan and he wipes the floor with him. But I doubt it.
Not watching tonight - the "important" outcome won't be obvious 'til tomorrow anyway (my personal view is sufficiently biased that I already know who I'll consider to have have lost; it's the US public opinion that matters)
Frankly IMO, as long as Biden doesn't disgrace himself, all he needs is to wait for the right time to release "black VOTES matter" along with a few pasted tweets and recordings of Trump being a racist prick and we should be OK
You mean Biden 'if you don't vote for me you ain't black'?
As vile and condescending as anything trump ever said.
Again, surely they have someone better?
There's bound to be some voters that still don't know how they will vote. I know that's sounds mad but it's true.
They might have voted for Trump to shake things up. Did that roll of the dice go well for them or not over the last 4 years?
Has his response to Covid dismayed some, is it enough to rethink their vote?
Who knows? I suspect some good sound bites could genuinely affect voting though, both for good and bad.**
**We'll assume "bad" to be Trump here.
As vile and condescending as anything trump ever said.
Not even in the top hundred, for me - still pretty crass but a whole league lower
Has his response to Covid dismayed some, is it enough to rethink their vote?
His attitude to vets and his tax returns are what will kill him politically - if anything does.
Nightmare scenario is someone taking the populist racist and proud of it Trumpism and integrating it in a competent fashion into 2000 era hawkish neo-conservatism. Trumps not the real worry, he's a ****ing moron.
As vile and condescending as anything trump ever said.
No, not for me either. Nowhere near. Biden was making a point about trump's character and out n out racism. But crassly put
It's not imitating a disabled reporter or defending a neo nazi murderer etc etc
I have something better to do. Go to bed.
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Free MemberYou mean Biden ‘if you don’t vote for me you ain’t black’?
As vile and condescending as anything trump ever said.
Yeah but ah ha ha really not at all no.
Just starting.
Bidens too slow, too respectful of Trump and he's waffling too much.
Magic Grandpa round two.
This is ****ing hilarious and pathetic all at the same time.
Proper idiocracy stuff.
Trumps trying to rattle Biden enough that he stumbles and seems old, it's working.
Biden smirking, doesn't want to get in the gutter with Trump and fight dirty.
Debates done, Biden doesn't have the momentum, going to bed - I'm way to sober for this.
Trump talking over Biden and the guy moderating it, saying how wonderful he is, and throwing glib accuasations at Biden without any supporting facts. Biden needs to be more assertive - no passion, and getting sidelined by Trump's interuptions.
Agree with above, Biden not doing well at all. Not catastrophic but really not good at all.
Not watching it but,
doesn’t want to get in the gutter with Trump and fight dirty.
Then he'll lose. That was Bob Dole's undoing years ago.
Trump is dominating the agenda. This is not pleasant to watch.
God, this makes Prime Ministers Questions look like an intellectual debate. I feel sorry for the American public who have to be governed by one of these two - surely there must be millions more people in America who can string a coherent sentence together more effectively than these two.
General consensus seems to be it went to Biden, but no real winners. Trumps call to arms of the Proud Boys may come back and bite him.