[Closed] Anybody use them electronic ciggies?

no, but I know two people who do and they are very pleased with them.

Would they be OK in a kids playground?

Thinking out loud here, but what if someone's toddler saw them and it lead to difficult questions for the parent?

I've a mate who uses them.

You should see the outraged looks in the pub when he has a "smoke".

🙂

richpips - Member

I've a mate who uses them.

You should see the outraged looks in the pub when he has a "smoke".

😆 I want to see that ... 😆

I've been using them for 3 1/2 years and they are awesome.

Gave up cigarettes the day my first one arrived and not had another since.
And never wanted one either.

I never use it somewhere you can't smoke though, otherwise you just look like a twunt.

I've been using them for a couple of months.

Is it for someone who is already using them or someone who hasn't started yet?
If they've already started, what are they using at the mo?

Been using then for a month now and loving the lack of smoke. Lots to choose from, I went for the titan from totally wicked e-liquid dot com peeps.

I am no longer a smoker!!! Yay!!!

Started using SKYCIG after recommendations on here about a month ago, haven't had a cigarette for just over 4 weeks now and cannot imagine ever going back to them. Was smoking for last 25 years (makes me cringe just typing that now!) about 10 - 15 a day (shaking head now, what a waste of time/money/life).

You should find some coupons/discounts on line if you go for a SKYCIG. I bought introductory kit for about £10 which includes a battery, recharger and 3 x cartridges, 5 cartridges for about £10 (can get refills for alot cheaper if you dont mind dismantling skycig cartridge and filling it up that way) and that was four weeks ago - £20/month compared to approx £180ish on cigarettes (another shake of head!).

And they don't look like one of the brands of e-cigs that look like crack pipes!

Can you get ones that look like roll-ups? 🙂

There are basically 3 types, cig look-a-like, cigar look-a-like and things that look like you're on seriously hard drugs. 😀

Anyone use a tobacco heater, like this: http://www.ploom.com/pax ?

richpips - Member
I've a mate who uses them.

You should see the outraged looks in the pub when he has a "smoke".

They cause outrage?? Now I want one 😈

cheers 'SiB' I expected skycigs to come up as the most popular so appreciate your advice.

Would you recommend this kit then? http://www.skycig.co.uk/kits/freedom

Or is there another?

Whilst we are on the subject may I highjack a little please?

I bought a E-Lites kit at the gadget show as I would like to give up the fags, but I just cant use the thing for more than a few 'draws' before my tongue feels burnt & my mouth is dryer than the Sahara desert, is this normal with 'vaping' or did I buy the wrong kit? I would like to give it another go but I'm wary of pissing another £50 up the wall.

Cheers in advance.

The wife uses them, and hasn't had a proper fag since she started on them - but tbh they just seem to have 'replaced' the fags, not sure of the health side etc.

To be honest, that skycig kit is a load of money for not much at all.

Those batteries don't last five minutes and you only get 2

I bought that sort of thing when I first started as they seemed to be what was available.
But with some research I found far better options.

Batteries that last a couple of days (that aren't huge)
Carts that are designed to be refilled easily and actually work properly.
And juice that's made in the UK with proper quality control rather than having unknown ingredients from somewhere in the Far East.

Try Decadent Vapours, Totally Wicked, Cloud9Vaping, iVapour Elixir for some better ideas.

but tbh they just seem to have 'replaced' the fags, not sure of the health side etc.

They are supposed to replace the fags really, that's the idea.

It's a safe nicotine delivery method.

Providing you don't have any other health problems, nicotine isn't that bad for you.

It's the other few thousand chemicals, poisons and tar in the "regular" delivery method that causes the problems.

Personally I wouldn't touch anything that had juice made in the Far East, the quality control is shocking, and you have no idea what is going into it.

I buy my Juice from Decadent Vapours, it's made in the UK and I know exactly what goes into it. And the quality is spot on.

As Nealglover says, Big downside with them e-lites and similar designs, for a regular smoker at least, is the constant battery management and/or cartridges not lasting 5 mins (some didn't appear to work at all), it also can be quite expensive. My experience of them was just getting fed up of constantly having to think about recharging batteries (I had two batteries), which didn't last very long of regular use. I didn't manage to give up the weed as I was often defaulting to a roll-up whilst waiting for batteries to charge (and I'm not/wasn't a big smoker). To save a bit of money and get better performance, e-lite cartridges can be refilled if you prise the little white cap off and buy some eliquid. I expect they are ideal for using at work/on train/in pub, as they look like normal cigs.
I started on cig-o-like e-lites, but I quickly bought something with bigger batteries and holding more eliquid, which is much better IMO. Kit with bigger batteries don't need constant charging, they don't look much like a cig tho.

nealglover - Member
To be honest, that skycig kit is a load of money for not much at all.

Those batteries don't last five minutes and you only get 2

I bought that sort of thing when I first started as they seemed to be what was available.
But with some research I found far better options.

Batteries that last a couple of days (that aren't huge)
Carts that are designed to be refilled easily and actually work properly.
And juice that's made in the UK with proper quality control rather than having unknown ingredients from somewhere in the Far East.

Try Decadent Vapours, Totally Wicked, Cloud9Vaping, iVapour Elixir for some better ideas.

Thanks for that, I have looked at loads & TBH I have ended up very confused, especially if you go to the forums, some read like adverts, some are very complicated, I guess it would be like a complete newbe reading STW, very informative & top of the shop if you have gotten into MTB, but about as much use as a chocolate teapot to your average £200 budget bike buyer looking to make a first purchase. SO based on that & as I trust you as your on a bike forum then what would you recommend?*

*Assuming you dont run your own E-fag business from a shed in yorkshire 😉

Cheers B.A.Nana.

2unfit, If you're prepared to move away from cig look-a-likes then you'll get much better performance from battery and delivery system (that's the bast way I can describe cartridges/clearomisers and other systems). You'll basically be missing out the expensive learning bit that most of us go thru with e-lites type ecigs. The cig-o-like things have their place tho, for people who smoke a lot at work/pub/street etc, but in the whole scheme of things, they're a bit rubbish.

2unfit2ride.

I would get some 510 Cartomisers from Totally wicked or Cloud9Vaping. (C9V low resistance Cartomisers in Silver are great)

A 510 charger from cloud9vaping or totally wicked

A couple of Riva 510 Batteries and a cone from cloud9vaping or totally wicked.

Some juice from Decadent Vapours. Any flavour you like. Probably 11/14/18 mg ?

Thanks both, it still sounds complicated, a bit like making a bike from components, any links to a ready made kit or is that akin to buying an off the peg bike? That or could I really take the piss & ask for links to each component?

Oh incase it helps I smoke rather to many of B&H gold per day 😳

Cheers.

Something like this [url= http://www.ukecigstore.com/e-cigarettes/starter-kits/viva-la-riva-deluxe-vision-innokin-and-riva-510-starter-kit-650 ]http://www.ukecigstore.com/e-cigarettes/starter-kits/viva-la-riva-deluxe-vision-innokin-and-riva-510-starter-kit-650[/url] plus a wall charger and a selection of 5ml eliquids to test flavours (AAEC disc code for 5% off). you can experiment with cartridge and clearomiser. there are vids on youtube about using it. try fruit flavours (mango,watermelon) and mint as well as the flavours you think you might like.

Thanks both, it still sounds complicated, a bit like making a bike from components, any links to a ready made kit or is that akin to buying an off the peg bike? That or could I really take the piss & ask for links to each component?

That link above looks good to me as a starter.

Then maybe a pack or two of [url] http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/510CARTO-LR/SubProducts/510CARTO-LR- [/url]

And some juice from decadent vapours. Any flavours you want, just order small sizes and few flavours.
I ended up on Decadent Vapours Menthol once I got my Taste buds back and hated the tobacco flavours. (not cigarette menthol, just pure mint, like extra strong mints)

I went from 40/50 Benson and Hedges Gold a day, to Zero the day my first e-Cig arrived 🙂

my tongue feels burnt & my mouth is dryer than the Sahara desert

The mouth drying out, horrible burnt taste etc is purely down to the crap liquid they supply with the kits.
It's cheap and horrible.

You don't get any of that with decent juice.

They do dry your mouth out a bit, I drink water/juice whilst vaping, but no burnt taste with decent kit.

I went from 40/50 Benson and Hedges Gold a day, to Zero the day my first e-Cig arrived

Wow, I'm not up to that level yet, despite smoking for very nearly 30 years, so respect if you can give up, you have just become my roll model! Can I ask what nicotine level you went for? B&H say .9 & the juice shows as a much higher nicotine content, I guess that is one of the confusing things about it all?

Cheers.

maybe start on 18mg and work up/down from there (possibly include a couple of 24mg just incase). I'm mostly on 11mg with a few 18mg as back up, but wasn't a big smoker. As neal says, buy a bunch of 5ml testers to start off. 6-8 5ml testers will last quite a while. I'm buying mine from vapourtine at the moment using disc code XMAS35 to get 35% off.

Wow, I'm not up to that level yet, despite smoking for very nearly 30 years, so respect if you can give up, you have just become my roll model! Can I ask what nicotine level you went for? B&H say .9 & the juice shows as a much higher nicotine content, I guess that is one of the confusing things about it all?

I started on 18mg. A couple of juices I tried early on had no throat hit, so I got them in 24mg and they were better.

I mix my own juice now using Decadent Vapours ingredients and recipe.

I mix the menthol in batches and make 0mg - 7mg - and 11mg and use them all depending on how I'm feeling.

I mix a batch of 24mg for when I'm on the piss as well 🙂

Thanks again both/all, I think I'll buy what was recommended, its got to be worth a shot.

Cheers.

Have a look at the forums (there are a few) but this is a good place to start for info :

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/

Get used to how long your batteries last, and get used to carrying a spare if you need to.
Running out of power is a pain in the arse.
Carry a spare bottle of Juice and a spare Cartomiser everywhere.
Juice is easy to lose so a spare can be invaluable. And cartomisers can die sometimes.

Once you get sorted, you won't have any bother giving up, it really does kill the urge.

(3.5 years smoke free - 51,000+ cigarettes avoided !) 😉

I think I'll buy what was recommended, its got to be worth a shot.

Also, don't throw the e-lites kit away (batteries, charger and cartridges). They can be kept for an emergency. The carts can be refilled by prizing the cap off (drop your eliquid onto the wadding,not down the hole in the middle), the battery/cart fitting is unique to e-lite tho (I'm told), so only reuseable as a stand alone kit.

2unfit, just incase you haven't bought yet, there is a link on this thread to a VapeEscape starter kit which is the same as the Viva la Riva kit, but with even more powerful batteries, for not much more money (no juice included tho). Might be worth considering.

[url= http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=newmembers&action=display&thread=14138 ]http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=newmembers&action=display&thread=14138[/url]

...After reading this thread I am even more confused. 😳

Tempted by Sky Cig... But I'm not sure what is best!

IMO SkyCig perhaps if you smoke in public and would feel very uncomfortable/self conscious with anything that didn't look like a cig. Otherwise, there's nothing much to merit them. Expensive, inadequate batteries, poor performance (BTW I used e-lites, but from what I read SkyCig are essentially the same thing).

Much better alternatives are more MonteCristo tubos Cigar size and could be passed off as some sort of asthma inhaler, maybe. 😀 Altho the big clouds of vapour might be hard to explain.

Many thanks B.A.Nana, but I bought the first kit you suggested, I'm hoping for success with this one.

Cheers.

...After reading this thread I am even more confused.
Tempted by Sky Cig...[b] But I'm not sure what is best![/b]

Not Sky Cig. (In my opinion)

They are overpriced and won't last five minutes.
You will be buying them over and over as they fail.
They taste pretty rank so they don't really appeal for very long.
Don't give off much vapour so they don't really do the job very well.
They give a very weak throat hit so they don't really replace the feeling of smoking very well.
Etc
Etc.

The Riva kit linked to on page 1 and some decent juice is a faaaaaar better option.

And as for the size, I hold mine in my hand and press the button with my thumb, that way you can't even see it. So it's not an issue. But I don't really care anyway, people hardly ever notice, and more people are using them now than they were a few years ago, so it's not really an issue.

I've been on the skycigs and they've helped me to finally quit a very light (2-3 per day) habit.

However they started giving me a very dry, sore throat, especially when waking up, and I was often getting a catch in my throat when talking. So I've pretty much quit those as well and I'd be wary of using them regularly.

Better off going cold turkey...4 weeks now from 10 a day and can honestly say not even tempted...although I could murder one whenever I have a pint!

Better off going cold turkey

That's fine for some people, but others have tried and failed.

No point making life more difficult that it needs to be.

Also, if you could murder a cigarette when you have a drink, wouldn't that be a good use of an e-cig ?

No problem 2unfit, just passing on what was recommended to me tbh, altho I actually bough just the clearomiser option in the end ie roughly same kit but without the cartridges. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about both options cartridges/clearomiser after you've tried them both ie flavour/hit/smoke/ease of use etc.
Just ask if you have any further questions, BTW you press the button on the side of the battery to vape. I had to phone up the seller to ask how to use it when I got mine, instructions failed to mention it. 🙂

Thanks again, & also thanks to nealglover, I forgot to say that earlier & it really gets my goat when you make the effort to make a real contribution to a forum & no one bothers to say thank you.
You have both been most helpful in your replies to this thread, so I thank you both, but obviously not forgetting everyone else that has contributed to this thread 😉

Cheers.

Ordered e-lites!
Thanks for all the info guys. 😉
Found some discount codes too!

NHS20 - 20% discount
200CH - 5 Extra tips when you buy a re-usable

How do people feel these things help with exercise? Do you think it's like not smoking? Tempted to give them a go also.

How do people feel these things help with exercise? Do you think it's like not smoking?

It's [b]nothing[/b] like smoking.

It's basically water vapour, with nicotine.

No poisons. No tar. No carcinogens.

I would say that as far as fitness goes, it's the same as not smoking.

Sitting in a steam room doesn't reduce lung capacity, so I can see that E-Cigs would.

And I am getting fitter and fitter all the time.

The missus has had a v stressful year and is puffing 20 real fags a day (as opposed to less than half that in recent years). I mentioned the e-lites to her last night but she wasn't in the most co-operative of moods.

TBH I'd like her to dump the fags and give these a go but I sense she needs some diplomatic encouragement. I want to say "I'll buy you the starter kit blah blah on the proviso you give them 100% and don't spark up for real." But this is my agenda, not hers. She doesn't have one right now. If her heart's not in it then it'll be another wasted "intention".

I gave up smoking 10 years ago so I know what it's like. And I'm pi55ed off that she still smokes even though TBF it has been a properly horrible year.

Any advise from those who've helped their other halves quit?

Cheers

EDIT: BTW, the incentive of saving £2000/yr or whatever it is didn't exactly hit home last night either!

E-Liquid is usually made up of mostly a propylene glycol (PG) or vegetable glycerin (VG) base. Both are used extensively in food production. Flavouring is added, again all used heavily in food production, as well as liquid nicotine of the desired strength. The liquid is vapourised in an atomiser producing, smoke, a throat hit, flavour and nicotine delivery.

The only negative of it is there have been no long term tests done. However, I believe it's universally accepted that it's going to be massively less harmful than smoking.

I asked the very same question a couple of months ago for my missus..

Bought her the skycig kit against many peoples advice and for the first couple of day she was impressed. The short life of the battery and the cig bit you screw on sent her straight back to proper cigs. I investigated further.

Now this vaping lark can look BLOODY complicated to an outsider, and it appears to me that most 'vapers' seem intent on making it sound complicated too. There are all sorts of weird kits about.

Simple breakdown.. I bought the riva kit (same as the ego kit but cheaper) for about £30.. came with two batteries and two clearomizers (this is a clear tank that you fill with the liquid) that screws onto the battery with a mouth piece attached. Initially ignore all the advice about mixing your own liquids etc and just buy a couple of ready to go liquids. It works out very cheap. 30ml of liquid will cost about £10 and is still half full a month later!!!

As i said.. you'll see all sorts of stuff about drip tips and cartomizers.. Ignore the lot and just start simple.. you fill the clear thing and just use it til it's empty then refil it. You can get more adventurous later on if you wish.

As for the results.. she still has a cig in the morning.. one after a meal and maybe one before bed (urgh!!).. but from a serious habit to about 4 a day is a great result..

I thoroughly recomend it.. if you need any advice re purchase, just ask.

Best sites seem to be..

http://www.ukecigstore.com/
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/

but as I said.. keep it simple or you'll put her off.

Edit: a pic of the kit with clearomizer attached to battery (it's a lot more descreet than it looks).

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Nice one Elzorillo. So you bought one of [url= http://www.ukecigstore.com/e-cigarettes/riva ]these[/url]?

Looks like a lot of kit to faff around with? Whereas the [url= http://www.e-lites.co.uk/electronic-cigarette-starter-kit.html ]e-lites[/url] seem pretty simple.

I'm not worried about saving say £10/£20/£30 a month (on comparing kits) because a key to 'er indoors taking this up will be its simplicity.

How do people feel these things help with exercise?

Looks like a lot of kit to faff around with? Whereas the e-lites seem pretty simple.

cool cheers.

Nice one Elzorillo. So you bought one of these?

Looks like a lot of kit to faff around with? Whereas the e-lites seem pretty simple.

I'm not worried about saving say £10/£20/£30 a month (on comparing kits) because a key to 'er indoors taking this up will be its simplicity.

The key for my wife was simplicity too.. The kits look like a lot of faffing purely because they usually come with lots of different bits, such as sample carts etc.. as I said, all you need is the battery and the clear tank with the mouth piece.. ignore everything else. It IS as simple as the sky cig things apart from one detail.. you unscrew the tank once in a while and simply pour liquid in. A tank lasts my wife close on a couple of days.

It really is a lot more simple than the impression you get from the kits.

This is the actual kit I bought.. I ignored all the carts that came with it and just bought a second clear tank for about £5. so she always has two available. The battery lasts at least 4 times as long as the skycig too.

http://www.ukecigstore.com/e-cigarettes/starter-kits/viva-la-riva-deluxe-vision-innokin-and-riva-510-starter-kit-650

I've just been on the phone to ukecigstore about that exact same kit. Seems like she just needs that and maybe an extra 3ml bottle of eliquid and away she goes. Sounds like the kit has enough "vapes" to last several weeks at the equiv of 20/day 🙂

Right, am going to put on my diplomacy hat and have a word with her ladyship ...

spacemonkey
The person has to actually want to stop/convert. from what you say, she doesn't sound like she's necessarily in that camp. Best thing to do is list all the positives of changing over, there are loads.

My wife has no intention of stopping.. I just bought the kit and said.. 'here.. try this'

She loved it. 😀

Couple of benefits.. no smell.. no going outside when it's raining or cold.. you can use it in the car.. I guarantee with will be very suprised how similar to an actual cig it really is.

The person has to actually want to stop/convert. from what you say, she doesn't sound like she's necessarily in that camp.

Agreed. I have a coaching background so I like to think I'm well versed in stepping back and "helping" the other person invoke their own catalyst(s) for change. Not so easy when it's your missus though 🙂

very suprised how similar to an actual cig it really is.

But they don't look anything like real cigs - is that not an issue (either psychologically to the smoker as well as to an "audience")? OTOH, the e-lites look more "normal" albeit with a green light on the end 🙂

But they don't look anything like real cigs - is that not an issue (either psychologically to the smoker as well as to an "audience")? OTOH, the e-lites look more "normal" albeit with a green light on the end

I should have clarified.. I meant the physical experience of inhaling as opposed to what it looks like.

I'd recommend just buying one and handing it to her.. just watch the suprise on her face the first time she tries it.

Well, I've said my bit but I'm not holding my breath. If she doesn't opt in then I'll give it a while and probably buy the pack anyway 😈

My list was stuff like:
smell in house
yellow fingers
teeth
smell on clothes
cost
lungs
ash/stubs/ashtray
burn holes in clothing

But they don't look anything like real cigs - is that not an issue (either psychologically to the smoker as well as to an "audience")? OTOH, the e-lites look more "normal" albeit with a green light on the end

spacemonkey
You could investigate something like this [url= http://www.exhalecigarette.co.uk/product-p/eekskw.htm ]http://www.exhalecigarette.co.uk/product-p/eekskw.htm[/url] it's more cig like than the clearomisers, looks like a fountain pen and the tip is a bit like those cigarette holders that posh ladies used to use. 2 big batteries and refillable etc etc
I've no direct experience of that specific system, but eXhale are a recommended seller, they sell good kit
Or this [url= http://www.exhalecigarette.co.uk/product-p/eetkw.htm ]http://www.exhalecigarette.co.uk/product-p/eetkw.htm[/url]

Cheers, I'll keep that one in reserve if her ladyship has issues with the Riva thingy.

B.A.Nana - Member

No problem 2unfit, just passing on what was recommended to me tbh, altho I actually bough just the clearomiser option in the end ie roughly same kit but without the cartridges. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about both options cartridges/clearomiser after you've tried them both ie flavour/hit/smoke/ease of use etc.

Ok, a quick update for you, the kit arrived at 10am this morning & I haven't had a fag since! 🙂

I know it's early days but the difference between this kit & the Elites one I had before is like night & day, it really is close to smoking & I now understand what they mean by 'throat hit'. So far I'm using the clearomiser as it really isn't any trouble to fill & I like the fact you can see how much you have left so no danger of running out. I have literally just finished dinner & I thought that this would be the hardest time for me, but I'm vaping ATM & it seems fine, I guess the real test will be when the wine gets opened later ❓
I only ordered menthol in both the clearomiser & the cartridges, might try the others, but so far it's been mint! 😉

Cheers.

ok,
you'll likely go mad on it for a while, new toy syndrome and all that. if you do go mad, you might experience slight irritation of the soft palette (roof of your mouth) for 24hrs or so, but maybe not if you were a regular smoker.

The clearomiser is easy to clean, I do it about once a week. If you become set on the clearo and want to add another at a later date, then I'd recommend the Mini Nova or Vivi Nova (you might have to also buy an adaptor/collar, not sure if that's just cosmetic or necessary?). They are better quality and better at keeping the liquid in, but no improvement in actual vaping tho. The type you have is perfectly good, I still use mine regularly, just a little bit more fiddly on refilling down the narrow gap (the Vivi Nova has a much bigger gap). I think the Nova comes with atomisers of different ohms, which change the vape slightly, but I haven't explored that yet.

I've been buying liquid from Vapourtine using disc code XMAS35 for 35% off, this gives the opportunity to try lots of flavours, cheaply. No idea of it's quality/origin tho. I've got loads of 5ml testers now, different strengths and PG/VG mixes. In Jan, I'll probably start exploring better quality recommendations (as per nealglover's posts), to see if the vape is any better.

Thanks again, I like the menthol one, but I have just remembered that there is a reason I don't brush my teeth just before going to the pub, mint kills the taste of beer!
Any suggestions for a decent flavour that won't over power, whilst not being sickly sweet & believe it or not-not tobacco flavoured ?

Cheers again.

I wasn't keen on buying the sweet/fruit flavours to start off, but neither was I keen on trying mint/menthol. As it turns out, I like both within reason. Don't bother with energycow (redbull), far too sickly sweet. Mango/watermelon etc I like. Mint I like, not tried menthol, but imagine it's pretty much the same as mint. coffee/vanilla/banana etc good, dark chocolate, I don't like. Pinacolada, I quite like, but might be too sweet for you, don't no. RY4 tobacco seems popular on the forums, I've yet to make a judgement. I quite like mixing extremes, so a bit of dark chocolate might be ok after some tangerine (or even mixing together, perhaps?).

As a smoker who wanted or needed when injured of late started again, I can thouroughly recommend peach flavour, smooth and tangy.

Love the real deal stufffine cut not rough cut baccy.
This thread has just reminded me, i need to find that lost packet of bh gold rolling as i want a roll!

I think I'm going to get one of these for both me and my missus, we both smoke 20 a day and my wife has just had half her teeth and gum removed due to cancerous cells 🙁
She's still smoking even though she knows its probably the cause of it.
I need a kick up the arse too as we are both mid forties with a toddler, I really want us both to see her grow up.

This is a daft question - where do you all put them when you're not using them? Are they OK sitting in your pockets in da club grinding da ladies?

[url] http://www.ukecigstore.com/e-cigarettes/starter-kits/innokin-aio-pcc-kit [/url] Was thinking about getting this any thoughts? Mainly just for use on nights out when i like a smoke.

If I was going down the cig-look-o-like route, which I wouldn't cos they're cr@p, I'd probably go for something like your link rather than e-lites/skycig.
e-lites/skycig are a bit of a con and environmentally unfriendly IMO. They want you to keep buying expensive new cartridges, when infact they could just be refilled. Of course, they make refilling them as difficult as possible, but it is possible. e-lite batterys can only be used with e-lite cartridges (so I'm told), so they make sure you are tied in to buying from them. Also the vape is poor, certainly with e-lites.
The system you've linked to is e-lites/skycig like, [b]but[/b] the big dif. is the cartridges are designed to be reused/refilled with liquid. So, it will be cheaper to run, more environmentally friendly and a decent vape.

However, as has been said thru-out, the batteries on these cig-o-like things don't last long. The batteries on that Innokin kit are 190mah (my smallest battery is 650mah). I wouldn't be surprised if it lasts 15mins and takes 2hrs to recharge.

Go for it tho, if you absolutely have to have a cig-look-o-like.

Thanks for that, yeah i thought the charging pack thing would offset the battery life to a certain extent. I see you can get larger capacity 510 batteries would they also be physically larger?

i thought the charging pack thing would offset the battery life to a certain extent.

I see you can get larger capacity 510 batteries would they also be physically larger?

My wife has two 510 650mah batteries (the standard one that comes with the riva/ego pack) and they're absolutely fine.

They charge from flat to full in about 20 mins and last all day.

The battery life of the ecig lookalike things (skycig etc) were abismal.

Hmmm, is this going to be as addictive as smoking? I still haven't had a fag but my expenditure has extrapolated big time!

Yesterday after I explained about the menthol & beer problem I went & ordered a load of E-liquid & a couple more clearomisers praying they would come today so I could enjoy this evening without the fags, well no doubt through no fault of the vendor they didn't come today so fearing the that I may face defeat this evening I scoured the web for shop based retailer near me in the hope I could get some juice, no joy but I did find out that the owner of a company called supervape lives up the road from where I work & has a number listed on his site. I gave him a call & asked if he had a shop or if he was just a web based seller, no real surprise that he works from home but he said it was cool to come over to have a chat & he would show me his wares. So I went over this evening & had a good chat, looked at some stuff, tried a few different flavours & I came away with a much better understanding, a new kit with variable batteries & rebuildable clearomisers & shitload of juice.

Total spend so far is in the region of £150 & I have been off the fags for less that three days, I hope this works out!

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