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Looking for some advice.
I was crossing a roundabout junction (one with trees in the middle so view obscured) on foot with family when gadgie youth screams round corner in hatchback and shows no sign of slowing. A stranger pedestrian with beard runs out of way, my wife and kids are making it to the kerb but he is not slowing down at all. So I keep walking calmly and look straight at him so he has to scream to a stop. I tell him rather agitately what the h#ll is he doing and he stops in middle of road and winds down the windae and starts to point and shout verbal abuse, even making a lunge. So I makes it clear he is not going to win this one to which he starts saying he will "do me", he then thankfully beats it. All this in front of my family and his girlfriend. Cant remember much else due to red mist honestly but we got his number and police are coming round tomorrow. Probably futile but he has been reported, hopefully they paid him a visit and he's on something.
I double checked with the missus who is very fair to make sure I didnt aggrevate the situation and she was sure of that, sure I was mad but no threats made by me, and no punches thrown.
What part of the law is available to make some effect on said gadgie, because I am pretty certain I will get the fob off tomorrow. But the missus and the bearded stranger both thought it was dangerous driving and he came pretty close to hitting both my kids.
From experience, it's rare to get a successful prosecution as to the state of someone's driving, if no injury or accident is caused, without the presence of a police officer at the time of the offence to act as a professional witness. However, I have dealt with a similar case, where the offending driver got arrested for a public order offence due to the threats he made. Maybe that's the route to suggest tomorrow.
Sounds about right. Don't expect too much.
Police? On here? 😯 Hang on, let me hide me stash first..
As you were.
Whats a gadgie ?
[i]Whats a gadgie[/i]
A bloke.
Gadgie; Scottish colloquialism for chav, etc.
from the north east usually
Gadgie = bloke
Radgie Gadgie = mad bloke (or a canny pint) on Tyneside
Whats a gadgie ?
Scumbag
Ned
Chav
Particularly from the Central Belt of Scotland. They are the core demographic in many towns.
You were crossing a road and got upset about someone driving too quickly? Perhaps you should have chosen a safe place to cross seeing as you were with children.
[i]Gadgie; Scottish colloquialism for chav, etc. [/i]
No that's a ned.
A gadgie is just a bloke, in true sense it means a stranger.
Ton has it's a NE word.
Gadgie - not to be confused with gadget - which is not the female of the species
gadgie
mucker
pal
mate
fella
marra
kid
cock
duck
oppo
brother
and probably loads more...
Police? Here?
With any luck they're doing their bit to recover your stolen bikes.
You always get these A-holes driving around like it's ****ing Silverstone!
you had your say with him and advised him re his manner of driving
you would be very very unlikeley to get a prosecution for dangerous driving in the circs you have relayed.
the best you could hope for would be the officer visiting the driver and issuing words of advise.
otherwise it would be statements given by all witnesses, summonsed to court for driving offences, giving evidence etc
do you feel that strongly about it?
if so insist to the police that you want to attend court and they may take it further
"gadgie" is just Edinburgh for "guy/man" nothing to do with social standing.
"ned" is Glaswegian for "chav"
"Scheemie" is Edinburgh for "chav/ned", as in comes from a cooncil scheeme
all of these were around decades before "chav" was
Ton has it's a NE word.
Romany word, actually. You'll probably have the STW anti-gypsy mob around to set fire to your PC for having typed it now.
ton don't you have Romany roots? (T'other folk, thats a serious question not a sly insult).
[Pretend Bobby]Thats close to a Section 59?[/Pretend Bobby]
Yup konabunny originaly it is yes. Now very much used in the NE especially in north Northumberland.
Did this happen in Scotland or England/Wales? If it's the latter then he's committed a public order offence. As previously stated you're unlikely to be able to prosecute for any driving offences based on your word alone without any independent evidence.
Often it is just a case of over-zelous pedestrians not liking young people driving cars with loud exhausts/music and forgetting their own youthful exploits...
And I think I would be a bit pissed off with a pedestrian deliberately staying on the road to make me slow.
ton don't you have Romany roots? (T'other folk, thats a serious question not a sly insult).
hora, yes i do mate, my grandma's parents were romani.
[i]You were crossing a road and got upset about someone driving too quickly? Perhaps you should have chosen a safe place to cross seeing as you were with children. [/i]
[i]Often it is just a case of over-zelous pedestrians not liking young people driving cars with loud exhausts/music and forgetting their own youthful exploits... [/i]
[i]And I think I would be a bit pissed off with a pedestrian deliberately staying on the road to make me slow. [/i]
MF - thanks for your kind words it really brings a glow to my heart when I see such consideration after what was a nasty incident.
The reason I didnt run out of the way was because my daughter was at the right of me and she could have been clouted by the car, so in controlled manner I made sure that gadgie could see me.
The reason I was crossing there is because its the only place that you can, there is a pedestrian island where you stop halfway then proceed when clear. If you take the trouble to read the OP you will see that I mentioned the fact the roundabout is obscured in the middle with trees so the driver cannot see all the way round. Highway code determines that you drive within your field of sight. The gadgie tear #rses round the corner then does not slow down when he is obviously aware of pedestrians crossing at the correct point.
Mr gadgie then stops and starts to kick off with real physical bodily harm threats.
Police were very considerate btw the way, as long as the **** gets a talking too perhaps he will drive in a safer manner and not get the next pedestrian that gets in the way (although I somehow doubt it).
GW, you forgot to mention the locally specific 'Niddron'
Och, and 'radge' is also Romany in origin
And some of you should remember there's no such thing as right of way, just priority, and drivers have a basic responsiblity not to simply run over peds simply because they're in the road.
and 'radge' is also Romany in origin
as is 'chav'
i think you are getting radge mixed up with gadjo.
Dunno ton, but I've been told that by several separate folk who should be in a position to know.
Sorry scotabroad but your account isn't making sense - you say in your OP that your wife and children were making it across yet you now say your daughter was next to you. What you describe in the OP sounds like passive confrontation to me - you deliberately stayed in the road to make him stop (so he was clearly driving at a speed that enabled him to stop). Only you and the driver will ever know the full story, but that is how it comes across to me.
Ohh, and was it a pedestrian crossing or simply a traffic island? Again it sounds to me like you chose a dangerous place to cross - if there was something obscuring the driver's view, it was equally obscuring yours...
i know of at least 2 coppers on here
It sounds like you're the sort of loon whose wife, nor a bearded stranger, would dare speak up to and tell you that you were being a bit of a pr1ck.
'WAS I OUT OF ORDER THERE??!! WAS I???!!!'
He was driving so dangerously that you could calmly stroll in front of him and make him scream to a halt? Wow he sounds truly reckless, almost as reckless as the man willing to walk his entire family in front of a car on a piece of road where they couldn't see what was coming!
MF - lets agree to disagree I was there and sure it wasnt pretty on both sides, but trust me the guy was out of order.
& Mr Yeti - troll somewhere else.
[i]A stranger pedestrian with beard runs out of way[/i]
What an odd way to describe someone.