[Closed] An end to A&A / Friday Kylie please

And the scanitly clad men, get a life, you really need to watch Good Morning Vietnam, there is a line in the film that could apply to you 😈

No. I couldn't care less either way about A&A, but it's just an Internet forum, if you don't like the subject matter don't open the thread 🙂

can I register that I don't agree with you somewhere?

I find this thread offensive and stupid. However, I clicked on it and shall continue to comment on it in an inane, self-righteous manner.

Down with this sort of thing.

Denied. Go somewhere else.

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Lets just change the topic name to 'A&A, do not open if easily offended' that way open people who want to open it will do so and those who don't like it don't have to look at it.

Frankly I don't care about the topic one way or another but we're all big boys and girls and we can all make decisions about what we want to look at can't we, and let others make similar choices for themselves?

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Frankly I don't care about the topic one way or another but we're all big boys and girls and we can all make decisions about what we want to look at can't we, and let others make similar choices for themselves?

NO! NO! NO! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER!

TJ is the arbiter of what you should think and do and you will obey his commandments!

Lets just change the topic name to 'A&A, do not open if easily offended

No don't, because there's nothing to actually get offended about in the A&A or Kylie threads

TJ seriously, I'll back you up on a lot of things, but this??!! You're being a {choose an insult, sufficiently offensive but not so bad I need to be banned}.

If you don't like it. Don't look at it. It seems a hell of a lot of people enjoy it, so go join a mormon forum or something.

What helmet to wear while reviewing the A&A content?

I find this thread offensive and stupid. However, I clicked on it and shall continue to comment on it in an inane, self-righteous manner.[b]
Tango Man - pmsl, priceless...
if you don't like the thread, don't read it FFS

Lets just change the topic name to 'A&A, do not open if easily offended'

And you wonder why women don't come on the forum much

What a sad little bunch of sexually repressed childish boys you are sometimes.

Troll.

i agree with tj i think the thread should be clearly named as PORN.
then we would all no where we stood.

TJ - you're better trying to engage with Mark/Chipps on this - if there are commercial pressures to end A&A (either from advertisers or visitors or because google starts flagging the site as containing 'unsafe' images) then it's more likely to be canned than as a result of any number of shouting matches on here.

I think it's unecessary, ehether I visit it or not, and if it puts people off STW as a whole because they feel it reflects the views/opinions/preferences of all members then it's a bad thing.

TSY - the point is that the A&A threads put women folk off the forum and set an atmosphere that many find unpleasant.

this forum is going to the dogs.... just another example of removing the things that make it special. go ahead stop it, the forum will be inhabitied by TJ preying on newbies and will get really rather tedious

(on another poiint though let have new pictures in each A&A though some of them come up every week)

You don't have to open these sorts of threads TJ

are you offended at the thought of what they contain? - or do you open them to be offended?
Or maybe you just can't help yourself, get offend & then have to go off & punish yourself or something?

As John Cleese once said, "some people need offending"

I'd like to see it banned if only for helping me discover that I liked pictures of 6th form netball teams. I'd try to be deliberately provocative and ended up with a nasty addiction for which there are not enough legal pictures on the web to feed. 🙁

what - women don't come on the forum much because of a thread that lasts about two hours on friday lunchtime, that they can easily avoid. i don't believe that for one minute.
if i check out STW on a friday night, my wife asks if the 'friday kylie thing' and male equivalent is on.
nothing personal TJ, but just can't agree with you on this. if you don't like the thread, don't open it.

Aawwwwwwwwwww bless. has someone offended your delicate sensibilities Tj? I simply can't believe that.

Normally you're so understanding and tolerant of other peoples varied attitudes and opinions.

So... what you're advocating is a cull of all the threads that you don't personaly like or. A sort of forum eugenics

Perhaps you could have a live webcam showing you at the top of each thread. Then you can do this if you don't aprove

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and the offending poster could be thrown to the lions

if it was posted on the bike forum i'd agree that there is no place for it but it is posted on the chat forum which is for all other topics and as such is not out of place, if you do not like it you don't have to look and you have no business trying to force your opinions onto other people like a religous freak knocking on doors would so i recommend that you take your head for shit!.

And you wonder why women don't come on the forum much

i find it tedious and pathetic*, and coming from me thats pretty damning.

but i dont open the thread.

*this applies to many threads that i do click on too.

Just for you TJ 🙂

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/17/comment.charliebrooker

"TSY - the point is that the A&A threads put women folk off the forum and set an atmosphere that many find unpleasant."

Just in the interests of clarity - do you have any evidence of this or are you just presuming?

how could Mark and Chipps justify closing down such a thread when they have the Knog adverts in the calendar - that would be massively hypocritical!!!
and don't get me started on those, because they aren't offensive either.

The procreation of our species is dependant on strong instinct. For that reason behaviours and attractions both ways round are significant and defining elements of who and what we are. Frankly TJ you are a having a bit of a King Canute moment trying to turn that particualr tide back. Driving these sort of things underground is, in my view bound to end in failure often in ways that are difficult to predict. The Catholic Church being one obvious example amongst many. Personally I favour honesty and openness, whilst also respecting your right to hold those views.

MrS - there were threads when this all kicked off last year in which a lot of women said they were put off stw by the sexism.

A&A isn't the only place it occurs but it's a barometer for the site as a whole that it continues, I think.

will those who agree with me register their support?

No support from me. Dont like it dont come in.

I wonder if the sportsmen and women in the photos on the A&A thread would find the thread offensive? 😕

Personally I doubt it. They are primarily professional athletes and not models and if they are happy with the photos I don't see the big deal in re-posting them on the A&A thread.

The I object to more is TJ trying to ram his opinion down everyone's throat 🙄

i dunno i think it depends on the sort of folks your used to hanging out with.
not all women are that easily offended yknow Tj.

TJ - I hear you. But they too can ignore that thread. It still seems that more and more women are joining this forum, or coming out of the shadows to actually post. As is stated, time and time again, virtually all pics on the thread are taken from the athlete in questions own promotional material.

I like looking at physically fit women who are at the top of their game. As it happens, without being gay, I also appreciate the aesthetics of male athletes and find it inspiring and motivational to see their pics too.
I train everyday, once or twice a day, to get fitter for my chosen sports, and seeing the bodies of top boxers etc helps me to maintain my focus, stay away from cakes, keep off the fags, generally look after myself. I imagine I'm not alone in this.
Would it offend you if we kept a A&A men only version going?

MrSparkle - Member

"TSY - the point is that the A&A threads put women folk off the forum and set an atmosphere that many find unpleasant."

Just in the interests of clarity - do you have any evidence of this or are you just presuming?

Yes - many of the women of stw have said so. I am merely one person prepared to shout about it as I don't care about the slagging I will get from the insecure little boys

The casual racism has been fairly well stamped out - its time the casual sexism and misogyny went the same way

Bermbandit - I am not trying to drive this underground - I merely don't believe stw is an appropriate place.

There's a system for reporting posts you think are breaking the rules, we look at these and if they're distasteful or offensive then they will be removed.

I think that the "don't open it if you don't like it" argument is a non-starter. That's never an excuse. If I started a "Friday Racist Joke Thread", I couldn't defend it against the inevitable complaints by saying "if you don't like the jokes, don't read them".

By all means, use rational argument to justify posting pictures of sexy women. These I'd be interested to see.

Some women have also said not to edit my posts on the basis that I think they might be offended 😯

Cause and effect TJ. Views like yours are the cause and underground is the effect.

See, i'm perfectly happy with the 'if you don't like it don't open it approach' it's how I moderate myself from posting on pointless threads...oh...

its al airbrushed bollox anyway

kylie with no makeup.....
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All hail. TJ has spoken

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Its the self-righteous, sactimonious, holier-than-though, new-labourish, nannying, partonising, condescending, messiah-complex bull-*! that I find more offensive than A&A

If you're so mortally offended why not * off?

right we need to get together and and petition the ban of the following:

Stif from advertising on here as that term could be offensive
wiggle for the same reason plus take search filter off and search those two 😯
CRC they have pictures of women in tights and no tops 😯

whilst we are at it lets also ban the viewing of nude paintings at any gallery just in case we offend anyone

it is harmless fun and is not tantamount to wolf whistling or being offensive and where you come up with people being sexually oppressed is beyond me.

TJ you make me laugh normally with some of your posts and that is meant in the nicest way 🙂

I would rather have a few pictures of athletes than have to listen to your self important, priggish, sanctimonious rubbish. Get a life.

Binners +1

I'm sexually repressed and childish. I find TJs attitude make me feel very unwelcome and self conscious on this forum.

TJ - you seem a nice fella in a lot of your posts, but you can't go calling people 'insecure little boys' for disagreeing with your opinion. you aren't doing your argument any favours when you lower the tone of it.
i hope at some stage to meet you on one of the TBC night rides, at which i'd like to prove to you that i'm a normal decent fella, albeit one that doesn't agree with you on this.

women folk

Really TJ, I expect better

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to be fair i never bother looking at the a&a threads as i find them quite dull
the same reason i dont buy the sun or look at page 3

I just ignore the threads and pity those that get so excited about them, TJ i suggest you should do the same

if i want to look at ladies on the interweb i can find much more interesting images elsewhere or even if i speak nicely to my wife she might put on her sexy uhura outfit 😉

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Here ya go.
Women, and the mature and sexually liberated should be stampeding back to the forum now.

Good point Darcy, I suppose I just don't think A&A is sexist.
If I was an obese lady I might I suppose, or more likely demoralising.

to be fair i never bother looking at the a&a threads as i find them quite dull

clearly.

[i]airbrushed bollox[/i]

Now that's a thread title to challenge ones self restraint in the 'do I open it or not' dept.

Just throwing a note of sanity into the rantings. Wouldn't it be nice if there could be some democratic way of deciding this, maybe some sort of poll, perhaps on the front page of the site to highlight it.

When is everyone gonna realise the more attention you give this guy the less chance we have of him shutting the hell up. Ignore him and he will get bored and go away, he can only react if we do.

TJ I take it you haven't seen this thread?

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You lot really are weak minded, he can say what he want's. I don't agree with him and think and evening of drinking with Teej would be sorely limted if he told you off every time you commented or looked at some totty, but that is no reason to pour bile and invective all over him. I am ashamed of you.

If democracy means anything then TJ is definitely wrong, most posters disagreeing with him here, and way more posts over on the a&a thread.

whoa there yeti that may well be sizist if there is such a term 😆

True, Kylie is getting a bit long in the tooth.

How about "Friday Rihanna" instead?

Democracy - another overrated concept - the oppression of the minority by the majority

Toys - I did see that thread - kept my powder dry. Or my whistle wet, or something

TBH I was being ironic, just think, the Sun sells more newspapers than any other in this country. If we had true democracy imagine the state we would be in.

TJ wrote

TSY - the point is that the A&A threads put women folk off the forum

I would also submit (with as much proof as TJ has that womem are put off the forum by the A&A threads) that he is more guilty than anyone of putting people off the the forum, both male and female, by his constant bullying, belittling, patronising and self-righteous attitude when it comes to anyone who dares disagree with his opinion.

lets all have a group hug and sing kumbaya 😀

Friday Rihanna - now thats the best thing that anyone has said on this thread so far. Next Friday about 12?

did someone say Rihanna?
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CRC they have pictures of women in tights and no tops

Link please...

I always thought it was a shame that the quaint 'Friday Kylie' tradition was taken over by the stupidly-named Friday 'A and A'.

For that reason alone, I vote for A&A to be killed off.

he is more guilty than anyone of putting people off the the forum, both male and female, by his constant bullying, belittling, patronising and self-righteous attitude when it comes to anyone who dares disagree with his opinion.

+1

I got myself banned for a month just so I could have a holiday from his constant, ill informed whittering. TJ is by far the worst thing about this forum.

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Democracy - another overrated concept - the oppression of the minority by the majority

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See, thats no more revealing than some female cycling kit!

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I'll start A&A again next week, now I know it causes such angst.
I'm not a Kylie fan, but I might do that one just for fun.

To be honest, in terms of 'forum atmosphere', I think moany-arsed threads like this are far more destructive to the general well-being and welcoming-ness of the forum than a thread with a couple of pictures which could as well be rejected front covers for Daley Thomson's Decatholon on the Spectrum.

Seriously, what's this achieve other than generate bad blood? Either the A&A thread is acceptable or it isn't (and I really couldn't care less either way); if it's acceptable, suck it up and move on, if it's not acceptable then report it to the mods who will take appropriate action.

You mean we get to do it allover again next week? 🙂