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Seems a pretty clear cut example of claiming that you are good based on alleged behaviour compared to other groups.

Nope it's an observation of the viciousness of the righteous left if you dare to have a different opinion.

Don't pretend it doesn't happen


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 4:50 pm
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Disagreeing with your opinions is not vicious. Being unable to cope with those that disagree however is a skill that may need some work.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 4:52 pm
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Disagreeing with your opinions is not vicious. Being unable to cope with those that disagree however is a skill that may need some work.

It depends how that disagreement is expressed to be fair

As for unable to cope, I've been here for well over 20 years. I think I can cope


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 4:54 pm
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Finding it quite amusing how regular posters are claiming not to recognise (the usernames of) other regular posters. 😀


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 4:59 pm
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Finding it quite amusing how regular posters are claiming not to recognise (the usernames of) other regular posters. 😀

<Out of toying with the right winger mode mode> yeah, it might be a bit of failing of mine. Rarely pay as much attention to whom I'm replying to as I should 😀. Got it wrong the other week and was really quite rude to someone who didn't deserve it as I scanned the name and mistook it for another. Had to apologise profusely.Maybe its being dyslexic - words other than those in common usage, like usernames, I don't really 'see'. </Out of toying with the right winger mode mode>


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 5:11 pm
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Nope it’s an observation of the viciousness of the righteous left if you dare to have a different opinion.

Ah yes of course. Its always someone elses fault isnt it? As for the "righteous" again this seems to be something you are trying hard to claim.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 5:14 pm
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Ah yes of course. Its always someone elses fault isnt it? As for the “righteous” again this seems to be something you are trying hard to claim.

No, it's an observation of what happens frequently with left wing mouthpieces and frequently on here.

I'm not claiming to be righteous, just pointing out that I don't resort to personal insults, however much I might disagree with someone. It seems acceptable on here though, so I might start.

Questioning the timing of a show of virtue by a celeb though, goodness me, how dare I

Get a grip


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 5:22 pm
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rarely express their opinions with much malice

That's kind of irrelevant when the opinions themselves are inherently malicious.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 5:29 pm
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It’s more to do with the attitude of people (on here and typically of the left). If you have a polarising opinion about something, or something that doesn’t toe the line with the virtuous, you receive vitriol...

For me people calling out "virtue signalling" and "wokeism" its like give it a rest. Often someone does something nice and someone feels they need to pull them down and label them woke or a virtue signaller. Ultimately for me when someone uses these words it feels like there is sense of arrogance and bitterness around it. Its also a bit of a cop out like when people say something rude or offensive and just go "lolz bantzzzz"

To your original point, there must be a deeper reason as to why you were offended / triggered / annoyed about the giving back his obe and what that is who knows. Maybe its because hes calling out negatives you may not want to acknowledge about British history, maybe you think hes sticking 2 fingers up at something you see value in. What ever it was it was enough for you to make a post about it.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 5:36 pm
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That’s kind of irrelevant when the opinions themselves are inherently malicious.

So everyone's who has an opinion that's right of centrist is malicious? This view is part of the problem. You believe that anything apart from your view is not just wrong, but hateful. I'm not talking about far right idiots


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 5:39 pm
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So everyone’s who has an opinion that’s right of centrist is malicious?

Well, that really isn't what I said, but one of the other characteristics of the right is to perpetually claim that they are the victims, so fill your boots.

There might be some right wing behaviours that don't end up doing damage to someone or other and are therefore not malicious. I can't think of any right now, but I'm not closing my mind to the possibility.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 5:54 pm
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Roald Dhal refused an MBE because he thought he should get a Knighthood……

That was spicy behaviour.

what’s the view on general use of post nominals in a professional capacity – are who use them ‘virtue signalling’?

It depends on the job, I suppose. Engineers are always touchy about this stuff. It can look a bit lame.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:07 pm
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don't feed the troll chaps.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:10 pm
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don’t feed the troll chaps.

Prophetic contribution as always tj


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:14 pm
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Nope it’s an observation of the viciousness of the righteous left if you dare to have a different opinion

Get over yourself. It's not like you didn't know which forum you were posting on.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:43 pm
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I’m not claiming to be righteous

You wouldn't want to be accused of virtue signalling.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:48 pm
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Get over yourself. It’s not like you didn’t know which forum you were posting on.

Just re-read what you have actually just written 🤣


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:48 pm
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your contempt for others comes thru loud and clear

Oof! What's your opinion of Tories and those that vote for them Teej?


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:50 pm
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@stevie750

I believe his loaf is still a pan


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:54 pm
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Just re-read what you have actually just written

Not sure that's quite the snappy comeback you think it is.

Anyway, you've already admitted that we're righteous, so I don't know where that leaves you.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:57 pm
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Oof! What’s your opinion of Tories and those that vote for them Teej?

Oof! Touché..... 😉


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 6:58 pm
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Oof! What’s your opinion of Tories and those that vote for them Teej?

tory party?  Deep visceral loathing

voters - pity generally as they have been conned most of them

That may not be very nice but its a refection of what I have seen of the damage ill health and death they have deliberately caused


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 7:02 pm
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Not sure that’s quite the snappy comeback you think it is.

Snappy comeback or not, Del's comment epitomises the elitism and always correct attitude of the majority of posters on this forum that I should be oh so aware of when I'm daring to post.

Anyway, you’ve already admitted that we’re righteous, so I don’t know where that leaves you.

The 'we' further inferring that this is a little club for the like minded. If you don't see an issue there, then you are reinforcing the fact that any opinion other than yours is wrong


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 7:03 pm
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Let's just remember that you came along and started the thread with a deliberate attempt to provoke a particular reaction. This is something usually known as trolling. When that reaction unsurprising ensued, you start claiming you're being victimised. Just grow up.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 7:10 pm
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Let’s just remember that you came along and started the thread with a deliberate attempt to provoke a particular reaction. This is something usually known as trolling. When that reaction unsurprising ensued, you start claiming you’re being victimised. Just grow up.

So it's ok for every man and his dog to have a go at my opinion, but when I chuck a bit back I have to grow up?

you start claiming you’re being victimised

I've literally had it pointed out to me to remember what forum I'm posting on. For some bizarre reason, I thought it was a cycling forum, with some general discussion thrown in for good measure 🤷🤣


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 7:14 pm
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You aren't 'chucking a bit back' you're just whining that the nasty lefties are being mean to you. Which, when you came in here with a deliberate attempt to provoke them into disagreeing with you, is a bit rich.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 7:21 pm
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What actually is your opinion? You know, on the wider context of whether the Empire is still to be celebrated, whether the awards are good but they need renaming, and so on?

You posted two diametrically opposed alternates, invited us to judge your opinion based on our preconceptions of you, and now seem put out when people have. And to be fair, I'll side with you on the point that while I think your opinions on this are (finding a non-aggressive word for it) erm..... 'a bit off' - you're entitled to them and they should be debated properly, the name calling's gone a bit overboard (again)

So, what do you think then - Empire; a just celebration of a great sailing and trading nation; or an embarrassing anachronism best left in the history books? Discuss.


 
Posted : 29/01/2023 7:33 pm
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What actually is your opinion?

That Cumming has done this as a bit of an attention seeking moment, be that wokeism, virtue signalling, or self-promotion. I have no real opinion one way or the other on Empire based awards to be honest.

The rest of it just followed and here we are


 
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