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i came for the lycra, but stayed for the sanctimony 😀
I am sure they would be disappointed you did not include them in a list of obnoxious ill considered drunks so need to say english and then British if you meant to include them/us/me just say British as I am really not english despite the accent.For the sake of argument though, if we're talking about getting pissed and playing loud music, I expect the Scots would be offended if I hadn't included them. (your tee-total good self excluded ofc).
Not quite tee total I drink about 5-10 pints a year
This thread needs a light-hearted interlude...
Lots of Asians don't particularly like the way Asian is used, even by the BBC.
[i]I wouldn't try to compare an individual to a heterogenous mass[/i]
If this is trolling, it is trolling of the highest order.
Thread of the [s]year[/s] [s]week[/s] last few days
Interestingly, or not......my parent's neighbours, we'll call them the Akhtars because that is their name are ****stani & have recently also built a good awful lean-to construction outside. It looks like the front porch of a general store that you might see in a program about the outback - ropey wooden construction, random use of fence panels as structural elements and a faded red corrugated roof (which made me think of the Australian general store porch type theme....
I assumed it was a DIY conservatory but apparently it is open-fronted, so God knows what it is for....!
Anyway.....as you were.
just skim read the last few pages...seems to be getting blown out of proportion a tad
i dont think cougars use of the term "asian community" was wrong in any way. i'm asian and it didnt offend me.
maybe he shouldnt have mentioned initially that the family in question were asian...but seeing as the notion of pigeon fancying/breeding to his knowledge wasnt common practice i think it was perfectly valid that he stated that the family were asian for clarification purposes
its now been pointed out that it is a very popular past time in ****stan/india/bangladesh...this is something he wasnt aware of and now that its been pointed out to him he accepts this...you learn something new every day
as far as implying his comments were either racist or xenophobic is like calling me a white supremacist
i'm not sticking up for him cos he's my mate or anything...never met him
we've had a few run ins on here and hes offered his critique on my beliefs etc..but i think its commonly accepted that if you raise your head above the STW parapets..then someone will take a pot shot at you but i think its overstepping the mark if he's being called out for being the new nick griffin
i dont think his original post in question was even that much about who built the structure but more about its legality
Is the rabbit hutch still standing ?
I reckon a drive by on a Harley with some unbaffled pipes would sort it 😉
So is this structure aligned towards the noon-day sun, the rising moon, or to Mecca, or where?
This is great 8 pages of the professionally offended left wing handwringers accusing a left wing residenthand wringer of being a racist because he stereotyped pigeon fanciers! 🙂
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this persons reasons are probably much the same as anyone else's and not because it is what people in ****stan do.
Question: Why has he got pigeons?
Reply: Pigeon racing is popular in ****stan.
Conclusion: It's likely, though not certain of course, that they're racing pigeons. They could be for food or ritual slaughter or to wind up the cat or because he's an eminent ornithologist, but they're [i]probably[/i] racing pigeons. But might not be.
Why would you say Asian when you mean ****stani, just because everyone else does, is not a good enough reason,
I don't know whether he's ****stani or Bangladeshi or any one of a multitude of other possibilities, or British for that matter, all I know is he's of Asian descent which is why I said Asian in the first place.
Bugger me. It's getting to the point where [i]any[/i] term to describe a group of non-Caucasian people is verboten without knowing their in-depth geographical life history for the past three generations. Last year I overheard someone chastised for using the term "coloured people"; when asked what term she preferred, the offended lady in question offered "people of colour."
Gonzy > thank you.
It's getting to the point where any term to describe a group of non-Caucasian people is verboten without knowing their in-depth geographical life history for the past three generations.
IC4?
also, can't resist......
Eee - by - gum -bay
Eee-by-Bom-Bay?
Yes, thankyou Gonzy for being a voice of wisdom and moderation in our community 😉
I've reported Gonzy to the mods for being Asian
CBA to head over to Mumsnet to check out if the OP's STW use of AIBU is correct or not, but I'm guessing it means "Asian Is Being Unreasonable", right?
I understand the point CharlieMungus is trying to make. What I don't understand, is why he'd persist in trying to explain it to people who can't understand why he's trying to make such a point.
What I also don't understand is, why Cougar didn't just go round and have a chat with his neighbours, see what's going on. It's what I would do. Talking to actual people in real life, is often far more productive than attempting to discuss things online with 'virtual' people.
If I had ****stani neighbours I would be more interested in gleaning curry making tips from them than being bothered about some pop up elevated dogging shed they have built.
Curry, curry, curry............yeah, yeah, yeah 😆
Last year I overheard someone chastised for using the term "coloured people"; when asked what term she preferred, the offended lady in question offered "people of colour."
Wasn't it Benedict Cumberbatch who got himself into that pickle, quite famously?
How would you describe someone from Singapore?
Is the answer Asian or non-caucasian Pigeon Fancier? It's in Asia and Asia contains pigeon fanciers. Every day's an STW school day.
nterestingly, or not......my parent's neighbours, we'll call them the Akhtars because that is their name are ****stani & have recently also built a good awful lean-to construction outside
Must be an Asian thing. Let me have a quick look on asianshedworld.
What I also don't understand is, why Cougar didn't just go round and have a chat with his neighbours, see what's going on. It's what I would do.
I don't see them very often, so I'd have to go knocking on the door which makes it a specific enquiry rather than a casual chat in passing. In which case, the response could well be "WTF has it got to do with you?"
Can I just say, in the interest of balance, that I know a lot of Anglo-Saxon Caucasians who have built a shitty lean to as well.
interest of balance
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a shitty lean to
Well, it amused me.
Last year I overheard someone chastised for using the term "coloured people"; when asked what term she preferred, the offended lady in question offered "people of colour."
😀
If it makes you smile after all the garbage spouted at you on this thread.
Interesting read, that Guardian article. Thanks for that.
At one point the author writes, "My current favoured term..." and I think that's kind of the problem. Language evolves, previously negative terms are embraced, previously acceptable terms become problematic.
Some people simply don't care of course, but even if you desperately want to avoid offending someone it can be difficult to keep with terminology du jour unless it's something you deal with regularly. Someone in a multicultural society is, hopefully, going to have a better idea than someone who only ever interacts with people of a similar demographic.
My attitude is that context and intent is far more important than a jumble of letters that people can creatively infer their own meanings from. But then, as a white heterosexual male, check your privilege and all that.
(I realise this is totally not the point of the article of course.)
I've reported Gonzy to the mods for being Asian
wait...i'm Asian???
Question: [s]Why has he got pigeons?[/s]
what would an Asian family want with a pigeon coop?Reply: Pigeon racing is popular in ****stan.
Conclusion: [s]It's likely, though not certain of course, that they're racing pigeons. They could be for food or ritual slaughter or to wind up the cat or because he's an eminent ornithologist, but they're probably racing pigeons. But might not be.[/s]
So there you go then. The answer to my (badly worded) original question is "actually, pigeon racing is very popular in ****stan
[Even though he might not be ****stani]
I don't know whether he's ****stani or Bangladeshi or any one of a multitude of other possibilities, or British for that matter, all I know is he's of Asian descent which is why I said Asian in the first place
[but that is why the Asian family has a pigeon coop?]
[i]I've reported Gonzy to the mods for being Asian[/i]wait...i'm Asian???
I've reported Gonzy to the mods for not being Asian.
Really not sure how people get themselves so wound up.
I have a blue bike, if it was lined up with a load of other bikes and you were trying to identify it, you would call it the blue bike.
If you called it the pig ugly blue thing, I might get offended. I wouldn't expect anybody else to get offended on my behalf.
As far as I am concerned calling something what it is is absolutely fine as long as you don't use derogatory names for it.
To answer the question, you are not being unreasonable. That thing is an absolute disgrace.
gonzy - Member
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it is a very popular past time in ****stan/india/bangladesh...
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It would appear that ****stan does not operate a pigeon-racing monopoly within the Middle Eastern countries.
It would appear that ****stan does not operate a pigeon-racing monopoly within the Middle Eastern countries.
no...but then again ****stan/india/bangladesh aren't in the middle east either 😉
Interestingly, though not very, cougar used the word 'verboten', showing a knowledge of German. However, in Germany, 'Asian' means originating from farther east, and 'Oriental' (again a word which ought to be used with consideration) means coming from the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent.
Conclusion? Cougar's been kidnapped and replaced by a vilain wearing a mask. Scooby?Interestingly, though not very, cougar used the word 'verboten', showing a knowledge of German. However, in Germany, 'Asian' means originating from farther east, and 'Oriental' (again a word which ought to be used with consideration) means coming from the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent.
Interestingly, though not very, cougar used the word 'verboten', showing a knowledge of German. However, in Germany, 'Asian' means originating from farther east, and 'Oriental' (again a word which ought to be used with consideration) means coming from the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent.
In the UK, Asian tends to mean from India, ****stan or Bangladesh. But in the USA, Asian usually means from South-East Asia - Vietnam, Cambodia, China. Context is important. However, in the context of a declining cotton town in the North (which, in the South, means anywhere past Birmingham) of England the edifice in question is an eyesore, and probably a danger to society, regardless of the origins or ethnicity of its constructors - who may well have been Polish, from the East.
AIBU is correct or not, but I'm guessing it means "Asian Is Being Unreasonable", right?
wrong. It's the Urdu* word for bodger.
*Official language of Liverpool hair salons. This is neither racist nor scousist, I've checked.
no...but then again ****stan/india/bangladesh aren't in the middle east either
Curses. Outed. I'm embarrassingly bad at Geography.
Oh dear. STW SJWs (STJWs ?) have mauled this.
Cougar isn't racist, we all know this, so stop your stirring!
It can be difficult to find words to accurately convey our thoughts. We've all got it a little wrong at sometime or another.
Just leave it.
As for the sky shack. It appears to be a poorly constructed structure. Doesn't look to be capable of withstanding the winter weather we have in the UK.
Were it a ground based structure then not so much of an issue. But an elevated construction needs to be reasonably capable of not collapsing on a passer by.
I'd wonder if the roof of the garage has been sufficiently modified to support a number of people or whatever, being up there.
Nope. Dangerous to those who built it and anyone nearby.
The Architect needs saving from themselves.
However, be careful how you go about complaining.
The builder may decide to look into regs and planning and might construct, sky shack II ?
Finally, it never ceases to amaze me how selfish neighbours can be. Those who built sky shack may be happy to make the place look worse. But it also shows a huge lack of regard for the people they live along side.
Effin hell this forum just gets worse. I had no idea there were this many fannys into mountain biking!
Cougar, you're absolutely right in complaining about that. It's an eye sore and needs to come down. With a bit of luck you'll have some high winds this weekend and that will be the end of it!!
You darent be descriptive anymore by the sound of it lad.
Those who built sky shack may be happy to make the place look worse.
To be fair, that would be tricky. (-:
Is it a pigeon coop though? It seems to be lacking a roof.
Cougar isn't racist, we all know this, so stop your stirring!It can be difficult to find words to accurately convey our thoughts. We've all got it a little wrong at sometime or another.
Just leave it.
erm... that's all pretty much what i said. I didn't think he was racist and on this occasion he got it wrong.
So far only theocb and you seem to have recognised that
he never said he got it wrong he said people can get it wrong and he seems to be speaking in general terms rather than the specifics of this case.this occasion he got it wrong.
It really would be a strange thing to say in any other context
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