Definitely real, although it is easy to confuse ADHD with Attachment Disorder as they often lead to similar behaviours, but generally attachment disorder is a lot less well known than ADHD and isn't something which is usually 'fixed' with drugs.
The biggest difference between the two is the likely cause, as I understand it, ADHD is generally being down to genetic/medical reasons, while Attachment Disorder is due to inconsistent/bad parenting or mistreatment of the child during its first few years.
ADHD is real, however the term has been hi jacked to now cover some bad parenting, which makes life for the true sufferers all the harder
You certainly dont need any facts getting in the way of your opinion
I've looked it up, apparently it was Leon Eisenberg "the father of ADHD".
On his death bed, this psychiatrist and autism pioneer admitted that ADHD is essentially a "fictitious disease," which means that millions of young children today are being needlessly prescribed severe mind-altering drugs that will set them up for a life of drug addiction and failure.
"ADHD is fraud intended to justify starting children on a life of drug addiction," said Dr. Edward C. Hamlyn, a founding member of the <i>Royal College of General Practitioners</i>, back in 1998 about the phony condition. Adding to this sentiment, psychiatrists Peter Breggin and Sami Timimi, both of whom oppose pathologizing the symptoms of ADHD, say that ADHD is more of a social construct than it is an objective "disorder."
from :
https://www.naturalnews.com/040938_ADHD_fictitious_disease_psychiatry.html
And that looks like a very reputable and unbiased website.
https://www.naturalnewsblogs.com/chemically-altered-homosexuality/
And teh gay is caused by weedkillers?
TurnerGuy - do you cross-reference your findings? Do you have the direct, correctly-translated quote from Leon Eisenberg? From a quick Google I see that it may be true, partly true, it may not? Click-conversions don't care so much about facts, only our feelings about which facts we wish to be factual! Absent the translation then I'd be cautious rather than certain. I have little to no doubt it is over-diagnosed/poorly-treated. But that does not mean that it is fictitious.
And remember - There is a God: How The World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind
That's settled that then? But seriously, do you have the original translation/quote as a starting point?
On his death bed, this psychiatrist and autism pioneer admitted that ADHD is essentially a “fictitious disease,” which means that millions of young children today are being needlessly prescribed severe mind-altering drugs that will set them up for a life of drug addiction and failure.
Unless he managed to conduct more research and not publish it why did he change his mind? What state was he in when he died? Was he a known practical joker?
A lesson in believing everything you read on the internet
No doubt it is over-diagnosed.
While I get where you're coming from, I'd put good money on ADHD still being under-diagnosed.
Have you tried to get a diagnosis?
I have a kid with learning "special needs" (mainly struggling with socialization and sensory stuff) who has an Educational Support Plan (I think that is what it's called) in a great mainstream school with an extra teaching assistant in the classroom.
He does not have a firm diagnosis as he is at the age of 8 too young to know whether it's Autism or something else. It's not ADHD.
We do get a bit of money (due to filling out a form frankly and truthfully) but to be honest it basically makes up the difference between say group swimming lessons and 1-2-1 lessons. Not that we are not grateful for it.
Here's where I'm going to get a bit ranty...
If you have a kid with SEN requirements you will soon find out the other parents in the school with kids with SEN needs because they will find you and bloody tell you. They will then try to pull you into their pity party vortex. There will be sharing tips on filling out the forms to get the result you want (not what you need), of what to say to the Doctors to get the "right" diagnosis. I tend to be quite rude when these subjects come up ("oh - what did you put in your form") as it's frankly none of their bloody business and now they avoid me at the school gates, which is fine by me.
To make matters worse my Brother in Law and his wife have 2 girls, who have been spectacularly badly parented. Complete lack of consistency, skipping from one Super Parenting book to the next, weak parenting, pushing of the Mum's inadequacies, excuses and neurosis's onto the eldest and letting the younger one get away with murder.
They are now pushing for diagnosis's for both of them for Autism and ADHD and are getting push back from the Doctors and Educational Psychologists much to their annoyance.
And don't get me started on the Brother in Law's Wife's sister who has decided to give up work to home school her "Autistic" (not diagnosed) 3 year old as no school will cater to his "needs".
Rant over...
Have you tried to get a diagnosis
Weirdly enough, I did a self-test last year and it strongly recommended that I do so. But no, I haven't tried to get an actual diagnosis. There's a thread that I started somewhere on here about that.
I'm conscious that a confirmed diagnosis could explain many of my ongoing problems that began at a young age, and have arguably impacted my life in a destructive fashion. It's an exhausting battle tbh. But I'm skeptical of bloody everything! <span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Even of my own intense skepticism. </span>
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">My feelings about over-/mis-diagnosing stem from many years working alongside teachers and psychologists in a school for (profoundly) learning-disabled/behaviourally-disordered/special-needs students.</span>
Where ADHD was firmly diagnosed I more often saw it in tandem with some level of autism. In other individuals I perceived it as caused/exarcerbated via a developmental response to familial distress and/or poor-parenting. No easy answers, IMO. A true can of worms subject.
Weirdly enough, I did a self-test last year
I wasn't suggesting you have ADHD, apologies if it reads that way.
I meant it's not at all easy to get a diagnosis, much harder than many on here assume, therefore the condition is likely to be under-diagnosed still.
Especially since it doesn't always present as hyperactivity and can be more like just having a rubbish attention span - as someone pointed out above.
A lesson in believing everything you read on the internet
And what is that lesson?
Notice that I used the word 'apparently'...
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/work-of-fiction/
I don't see anything there that says the quote is definitely wrong, just offers an opinion that it meant something different according to content - but that is an opinion and, according to some STWers, opinions seem to have been 'no platformed' on this forum.
Assuming their opinion is corrent, here's an article from Scientific American about the over-diagnosis :
I don’t see anything there that says the quote is definitely wrong, just offers an opinion that it meant something different according to content – but that is an opinion and, according to some STWers, opinions seem to have been ‘no platformed’ on this forum.
You're just babbling now.
"No platformed" FFS.
You posted ill-informed shite and got called out on it.
My 9 year old niece has recently been diagnosed with ADHD. According to my brother and sister in law, she is generally out of control, won't focus on anything or any task and her behaviour is terrible. In her particular case, her issues are more likely caused by unlimited access to sugar, fizzy drinks and crap parenting. She is now taking daily medication and is in a zombie like state all the time which cannot be the right way to deal with a child of that age. Oh, my brother is very happy about the money the state pays him for having a "mental" daughter. Yes, he is a ****.
Some good friends of mine - vegan but not hippy dippy have a kid with adhd. No way is it caused by sugar, bad diet, bad parenting in their case. They did medicate her - on half the recommended dose only on the bad days as they didn't want a medicated child.
You posted ill-informed shite and got called out on it.
offer proof that it is ill-informed ? Not even the fact checking can disprove the quote.
There have been several posts on this forum recently deriding other peoples posts as being opinion, as if it was therefore invalid. I'd look for some but this forum is so sh1t slow nowadays, my ADHD means that I don't have the patience to find them...
stop feeding kids convenient processed utter shite mass produced slurry food and eat real food instead with lots of fibre but with the vast majority of parents working full time who has the time to cook genuine meals these days?, since the 70’s we have been sleepwalking our way into a health crisis due to the changes in our diet.
Rather OT but just to make this point - our diet in general has improved massively since the 70s. Far more choice, far better education and information available to all consumers. Yes, ready meal and processed food consumption has also increased, but compared to the 70s and earlier we are in a far better position.
It's a regular joke in my family about my parents' and grandparents' cooking. Massively overboiled veg with a tough. cheap piece of meat. Followed by tinned fruit and something processed that resembled custard or cream, again possibly from a can. My grandmother would spend hours podding fresh peas, or preparing beans, and then cook them to death. Or maybe produce a whole meal from cans, including the potatoes. If you choose wisely your ready meal will provide a much better diet than the crap I grew up eating. I may be completely atypical but I think not.
ADHD is not the same as being badly behaved.
For me, this comment hits the nail on the head.
People are quick to make judgements about how other people's children behave when there are a myriad of reasons for this behaviour. Much of it though, is children being children/ time of day/ what they are being required to do/ mood of the adult commenting etc... In my experience bad behaviour is either learned or not managed by the revelvant adults. Symptoms of a medical conditions can look like these, but can be managed. They can be managed best by helping the child to bcome aware of their behaviour and provide staregies for them to cope.
