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80 per cent of everything is crap, the 20per cent that’s left is different for everybody!


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 9:28 am
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Personally I don’t like her music, she’s constantly in the spotlight which I guess is making anyone involved with her money as well as her.

This couldn't be further from the truth, she basically goes dark between albums. After 25 she went off to the states, got married and had a kid and no one heard from her. I don't like her music but there is no denying shes got an incredible voice.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 9:37 am
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This thread reminded me of just how great Alison Moyet is.

When did I get so old?

But I also like Adele's music. I'm old enough now that I don't need to feel guilty about liking it.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 9:58 am
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This couldn’t be further from the truth, she basically goes dark between albums. After 25 she went off to the states, got married and had a kid and no one heard from her.

Absolutely, what utter tripe some folk spout!


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:02 am
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We don’t all have to like her music, you don’t even have to listen to it, it’s a free world and there’s enough content out there you can easily avoid the stuff you don’t like. But if you’ve nothing nice to say, maybe better just to say nothing. The amount of abuse women get online and in the real world is horrendous. My 13 year old daughter was asking tonight how to deal with some knuckle dragger at school that’s giving her a hard time. I’m guessing nobody on here actually knows Adele but you still feel able to criticise and judge her personally. Life’s too short, get a grip.

Get a grip indeed. It's just a thread on a chat forum.
Blimey.

(Sorry, I have no opinion about Adele. only scanned the thread out of boredom)


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:08 am
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This thread reminded me of just how great Alison Moyet is.

I rediscovered her stuff a few weeks back after forgetting about it for 30-odd years. 'Invisible' is just such a great pop song, and her voice is magnificent.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:09 am
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I’m a U2 fan, so in some of your views I should be hung, drawn and quartered.

I still love some of their old stuff but their latest song sounds like Coldplay.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:10 am
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I can't stand her - she's on the same list as Coldplay, Muse and a few others who i will immediately switch off.

I can see the appeal - but its just not for me.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:15 am
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I like her! Seems like a proper human being to me although the recent stories about the aussie journalist and spotify suggest that she 'might' be heading up her own rectum a tad. Still rather listen to Metallica but really don't ger why she irritates people.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:15 am
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Not to my taste, but she clearly manages to speaks to a lot of people (well, it's mostly Women I think). Based on snippets I've read online (pinch of salt etc) I doubt we'd get on, but I really doubt I'll be in a position when I'd need to.

The only Question I really have, what do you do at an Adele concert? Ugly cry and drunk dial exes?


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:16 am
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I like her! Seems like a proper human being to me although the recent stories about the aussie journalist and spotify suggest that she ‘might’ be heading up her own rectum a tad

TBH I'd probably cancel an interview about my new album/book/film with someone who hadn't bothered to listen/read/watch it.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:25 am
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She's an incredible singer. I don't really understand the nuances of great singing, but I've seen musicians analyse her singing and she does things that very few others will do - like singing half-flat notes because it sounds better, even if it's 'wrong'. Hendrix did this too, not that he was a great vocalist, but they share an intense understanding of musicianship.

The music's not for me personally, but she's a supremely talented musician, who can also write songs with mass appeal, and appears to be relatable when she talks. Seems a bit unnecessary to hate on her - there are plenty of other things you can listen to if you want - including some up-to-the-minute suggestions from other STW-ers like Alison Moyet and U2 😀


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:26 am
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The music’s not for me personally, but she’s a supremely talented musician, who can also write songs with mass appeal, and appears to be relatable when she talks. Seems a bit unnecessary to hate on her

Yep, I can appreciate talent although I don't like the music.

Musics a marmite thing 🙂


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:35 am
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up-to-the-minute suggestions from other STW-ers like Alison Moyet

Up yours! If I want to stay in the 80s where I feel safe, that's my prerogative! 🙂

Anyone like Tears for Fears?


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:38 am
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up-to-the-minute suggestions...

Thread needs more W.A.P. I mean, if Adele had joined Cardi and Megan in that video.. much more like it. 👍 (There's a documentary on iPlayer, most entertaining)


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:44 am
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Not to my taste by and large and I wouldn't seek her music out, but she does have a cracking voice. When I do hear her stuff it's sometimes catchy and at worst inoffensive.

I really don't get why someone would be "miffed" because they have discovered a musician they don't appreciate! OP's mind will be blown when he discovers that some people eat food and wear clothes he doesn't like.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:54 am
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*Adds name to the "cracking singer, just not for me" list*

I've got used to the idea that music is not bad just because it doesn't tickle my fancy.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 11:24 am
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Soul. Her songs have it. Her (singing) voice projects it.

Simply put, she’s probably the biggest musical talent to come out of the UK in decades…

She’s an incredible singer. I don’t really understand the nuances of great singing, but I’ve seen musicians analyse her singing and she does things that very few others will do – like singing half-flat notes because it sounds better, even if it’s ‘wrong’. Hendrix did this too, not that he was a great vocalist, but they share an intense understanding of musicianship.

The music’s not for me personally, but she’s a supremely talented musician, who can also write songs with mass appeal, and appears to be relatable when she talks.

Superficial gets it… She does things that only the very greatest can do. She’s such a cut above it’s difficult to describe how good she actually is unless you can appreciate what she’s doing.

Personally, most of her songs aren’t for me, but I can really appreciate the quality if not the content. For me, her older stuff was better, 19 was incredible (to think she was 16 when some of the songs were written!), Hometown Glory one of my all time favourite songs. I’m not so much into the bitter sweet messages to the exes, but then I also get why they’re popular with a large demographic, but crucially for her, it means she writes and sings from the heart about something very personal which is often a precursor to critical success!

Basically, Coldplay or Ed Sheeran she ain’t… Yes, those guys have got reeling out generic bland pop songs for their target audiences dialled to a T, and many would argue that’s an art form in itself, but it’s the soul and passion that Adele brings along with a serious vocal ability and a likeable yet mad as a box of frogs personality too…

Her tax grumble comments were taken out of context FWIW. She’s from a very socialist background, was an avid Corbyn supporter. She was grumbling about the concept of paying £millions in tax to a Tory govt that would spaff it up the wall or trouser it themselves rather than do anything useful with it was how I understood it. Lord knows I feel the same, and I’m not even a higher rate tax payer! 🤷🏻‍♂️


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 11:28 am
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wimmin folk love her to bits
They can relate to err , as shes abit of a chav innit. drops a few sweray wordz in ere and there.
Writes choonz they can cry to with a bottle of pinot gringo , looks great in all her insta snaps
and writes kareokee belters about failed relationshiops that could av been writen about themselfs.

A little bit of misogyny for a Wednesday morning. (Yeah, my wife's taste is crap but that's because she's only a woman!)


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 11:49 am
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Not my cup of tea at all...everything sounds the same.

Mind you, the last band i 'discovered' was the Arctic Monkeys so i'm not exactly Tony Wilson.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 12:02 pm
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Quite simply she has a wonderful singing voice, up there with Amy Winehouse for having soul and character. Whilst not particularly a fan of her style of music, I can easily see why she is very popular and incredibly successful and I can happily listen to her.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 12:04 pm
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For some balance the OP needs to post up his top 5 tunes,just so we can fully appreciate where he's coming from. 🤣🙂


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 12:06 pm
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everything sounds the same.

but it's got a good beat 😆


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 12:31 pm
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I’ve got used to the idea that music is not bad just because it doesn’t tickle my fancy.

I used to think this coincided with reaching adulthood, but reading this thread...


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 1:05 pm
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Posted : 01/12/2021 1:17 pm
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i remember seeing her on some chat show or other before i realised who she was. she was brash, but funny and charming. i thought 'who is this? she's great'

then she started singing and i turned over. thoroughly terrible noise.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 1:18 pm
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its just not for me.

This.

I've spent years having angry opinions about the music I didn't like/approve of/think cool, but ultimately it's just petty and pointless.

Modern tech means I rarely have to hear musicians I don't like, so having an opinion on them was just a waste of time.

(it's a long road to recovery, bit like stopping reading the comments below youtube videos)


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 3:19 pm
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She's no Tina Charles.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 5:10 pm
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... and she's certainly no Sandy Denny ...


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 5:14 pm
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The wife and daughter both like her so by default I have to dislike her.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 8:13 pm
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Its ‘cool’ to dislike Adele innit? Same thing with Ed Sheeran both are great singers and songwriters.

Not so keen on Adele, but Ed Sheeran just seems to be mind blowingly gifted, just hit after hit after hit and that's just the stuff he sings, he writes for others as well.


 
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She's a powerful singer who was probably overlooked at the start of her career for not being 'classically photogenic'. So there's a bit of a story and she is a bit of a 'card', but only if you think Mrs Brown's Boys counts as comedy - which a lot of people do.

She's good at what she does, if you like that kind of thing.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:26 pm
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Being cool is defined more by what we don't like than what we do.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 11:32 pm
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TBH I’d probably cancel an interview about my new album/book/film with someone who hadn’t bothered to listen/read/watch it.

It's a bit more involved than that, the email advising of the advance listening link was buried in an inbox and didn't mention Adele in a prominent position. Also journalism is not just allowing the artist to puff their newest material without giving of themselves. The artist refused to give anything but the pre-prepared stuff on the output and threw a strop when the interviewer went where the 'interesting' stuff would be.
The artist went down in my esteem when decrying herself as 'poor me' because my voice may be in danger whilst not stopping smoking.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 9:26 am
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both are great singers and songwriters.

Not if you don't like their singing or their songs. I personally, don't find their songwriting "great" - there would have to be something unique or original in it for that to be the case. They are commercially successful yes, but that doesn't mean they are to EVERYONE'S taste, obviously.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 9:53 am
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I’ve no understanding of what makes a good musician (for example the stuff that superficial and mboy talked about) but I do know what makes me hum and what doesn’t and I quite like her music. I also quite like Ed Sheeran. And I definitely like Alison Moyet.

At first I thought this might be because I’m a cringy dad, but on closer analysis I’ve been like that since my early 20s (a long time ago now!).

I also think Adele would probably be a good laugh to have a beer with.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 2:37 pm
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I saw a woman walking down the street singing with a laptop under her arm. I think it was a Dell.

Underrated joke.

Her music isn't really my type of music but I can appreciate her talent and why she has many, many fans. Each to their own.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 2:43 pm
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Went right off her when she cancelled an inter when the journo confessed to not listening to her album first.

https://www.insider.com/adele-interview-withheld-reporter-said-hadnt-heard-album-report-2021-11

That and her Spotify deal stopping users hitting random when playing her album.

Decent voice and a few good tunes but get over yourself.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 9:04 pm
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Went right off her when she cancelled an inter when the journo confessed to not listening to her album first.

https://www.insider.com/adele-interview-withheld-reporter-said-hadnt-heard-album-report-2021-11

That and her Spotify deal stopping users hitting random when playing her album.

Funnily enough, both of those made me respect her much, much more


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 9:21 pm
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Went right off her when she cancelled an inter when the journo confessed to not listening to her album first.

https://www.insider.com/adele-interview-withheld-reporter-said-hadnt-heard-album-report-2021-11
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That and her Spotify deal stopping users hitting random when playing her album.

For starters, the interviewer showed a staggering lack of professionalism, even if he hadn’t had a chance to listen to it, he should have been able to work around it if he was any good at his job.

As regards Spotify, as I never use it, or any streaming service, I didn’t know that shuffle or random play was the default! That’s just bloody stupid, artists spend significant amounts of time organising the order in which tracks should play, and there are many albums where tracks fade or segue into the next - that gets totally bollixed up it the album random plays when you listen to it. I usually listen to music on my phone in shuffle mode, but that’s when I’m at work, or in town. At home, I’ll more often choose an album and listen right through, and shuffle is an option, if required. As it should be.
And considering just how much vinyl is being sold now, and even cassette tapes, who could possibly think that just because the people buying the vinyl are also listening to the same music streamed, they’re going to want it in a random order?

It makes no sense, and Spotify have shown some sense.

Now, if the record companies would only pay artists the same royalties for streaming as they do for radio plays, more artists could actually earn a living, instead of the (literally) top 1%!


 
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“What’s all the fuss about?” Apparently a lardy, cockney, chav 🤢


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 1:17 am
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Work round the interview? He did the interview but she prevented the footage from being used.

As for shuffle. Shock horror most people will choose what tracks they listen not just play 40m of music exactly as dictated by the artist.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 5:53 am
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As for shuffle. Shock horror most people will choose what tracks they listen not just play 40m of music exactly as dictated by the artist.

Which is always an option, but why should the default setting be shuffle?

And, 'shock horror', default shuffle won't mean that people can choose the order of the tracks. I think you are getting a bit muddled up.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 7:09 am
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I am interested as to why you get miffed about someone whose products you are not forced to buy. I don't like her either, (well rolling in the deep was OK) but some people do, it does not bother me, easy to avoid by not buying her mp3s. Yes it comes on the radio but there is loads of stuff on the radio I don't want to listen to. Can you explain why this makes you miffed? I am genuinely interested.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 7:43 am
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As for shuffle. Shock horror most people will choose what tracks they listen not just play 40m of music exactly as dictated by the artist.

Isn't that the point, though? I think most serious artists consider an album to be a cohesive piece of work. It's like saying you quite like the portrait of Jesus in the last supper, but you don't care for the other people in that picture. Or eating deep fried fish without the chips, I suppose.

Listening to one song before being skipped to another artist's song as 'dictated' by the algorithm means you miss aspects of the completed work that the artist has curated. For 50+ years, the album has been how artists tell stories. That method is being inadvertently eroded by technology. Fair enough, times are changing and perhaps that's what people want. But perhaps we're just not paying attention and the computers are making decisions for us. Adele is defending the concept of the album, which I think is cool.


 
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