Chatting to someone who's always full of energy, saw them put a few drops of this stuff in their water. After asking them what it was, I ordered a bottle to replace the electrolyte tabs I've been meaning to pick up.
Only now have I just looked at the ingredients!
Concentrated Inland Sea Water (containing natural trace minerals),* Purified Water, Potassium Chloride.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elete-Team-Bottle-480ml/dp/B0036PP5FQ/
I'm a mug...
Unless someone else uses them?!
If someone else uses them, you're still a mug.
You could get the same results with a glass of tap water and a pinch of salt.
Not unless they've got life changing results from it 😆
If not then yeah, I'm still a mug..
I've now followed the link.
Thirty quid for a bottle of sea water, to add near-homeopathic amounts into drinking water? **** me, I'm in the wrong business.
Not unless they've got life changing results from it
Anecdotes are not evidence.
Also, in case I was ambiguous in my first reply:
[i]IT'S SALT![/i]
The low salt salt is about 60% potassium and costs a couple of quid from most supermarkets.
Cougar - ModeratorIT'S SALT!
Salt's Sodium IIRC
Bloody good stuff that. It is expensive, but you add 2.5ml to a bottle, so that’ll last a good while. Hideously overpriced, but definitely reduced my cramping in races. #SnakeOilVictory
Cougar
Anecdotes are not evidence.Also, in case I was ambiguous in my first reply:
IT'S SALT!
Yep, I'm clutching at straws 😆
Potassium salt and magnesium salts are both good for different things I think
Damn. Have to admire them.
So basically a salt tablet but since its done the long winded way charge even more. Even with Maldon sea salt would be able to make a profit.
I think zinc chloride too
Salt's Sodium IIRC
Sodium chloride. If you're putting sodium in your water then you're going to have an eventful time.
Bloody good stuff that. It is expensive, but you add 2.5ml to a bottle, so that’ll last a good while. Hideously overpriced, but definitely reduced my cramping in races. #SnakeOilVictory
At the risk of repeating myself,
Cougar - Moderator
IT'S SALT!
That's what salt does.
as would mny other things that are cheaperdefinitely reduced my cramping in races.
So it's not salt then. Just to confirm before the OP starts pouring salt in his bidons.
Get the low salt stuff I suggested (which is more than 50% potassium)
Crosshair just tried to sell me magic beans.
I’m not that stupid, unless someone here has had life changing results from them? 😉
I think I’m good for salt for the next year or so, but will check out this cheaper low salt salt stuff for next time...
I don’t care - I absolutely love this stuff. I’ve got a tiny pocket bottle which I take on rides with me. First twinge of cramp and I pop a couple of drops on my tongue and I’m fresh as a daisy again. A little bottle lasts me aaaaages.
Do some reading. The RDA for potassium is pretty high IIRC and most people probably don't reach it, let alone those that sweat it out during exercise.
Cripes!
Come surfing with me, you can drink all the sea water your body will hold without drowning..
Works for me, costs me nothing, fit as a fit thing (currently drunk, but hey) and if you like I’ll charge you £30 for the privilege..
Mug.
The elete range of 100% natural, ionically charged electrolyte products are derived from the solar evaporation of the mineral-rich water of the Great Salt Lake in Utah with nothing else added.
[url= https://eletewater.co.uk ]From the website.
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Damn. Have to admire them.
Indeed.
This is a nice example of a pretty profitable low overhead business.
I bought a kilo of naturally harvested Atlantic sea salt whilst on holiday. Fantastic crystal structure and unique mineral content
Yours for £200, should last years if diluted appropriately
I don't think you sweat just normal salt. Electrolyte tabs are potassium, sodium, calcium and magnesium salts.
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I don't think you sweat just normal salt. Electrolyte tabs are potassium, sodium, calcium and magnesium salts.
Whilst electrolytes have been used for many years by athletes and sports professionals, existing products and brands will typically contain only one or two electrolytes, usually in a non-ionically charged form which are not easily assimilated by the body. For optimum benefits and hydration, all four major electrolytes (in particular magnesium) are required in an ionically charged form; in fact electrolytes are only true electrolytes when they are ionically charged as they do not function properly otherwise.
Sweating and physical stress deplete magnesium which works with other electrolytes to prevent muscle cramps and helps the body to properly utilize oxygen, so magnesium replacement is essential for sports people. elete contains a perfectly balanced ionically charged combination of magnesium and the three other major mineral electrolytes (potassium, sodium and chloride), as well as over 60 other naturally occurring trace and ultra trace elements.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
pork scratchings
Cheap compared to the stuff I buy
http://osil.com/Products/IAPSOSeawaterStandards/tabid/113/agentType/View/PropertyID/47/Default.aspx
usually in a non-ionically charged form which are not easily assimilated by the body. For optimum benefits and hydration, all four major electrolytes (in particular magnesium) are required in an ionically charged form; in fact electrolytes are only true electrolytes when they are ionically charged as they do not function properly otherwise.
I did a degree in chemistry, and unless you're explaining this really badly, you're wrong.
You stick sodium chloride in water you get Na+(aq) and Cl-(aq), you mix it with potassium bromide you get K+(aq) Br-(aq), the cool trick is if you separate it out (not that easy, it's probably eutectic) you get Sodium Bromide and Potassium Chloride.
I can't believe people are buying this nevermind admitting to it. **** me, I think this will take some beating.
I was under the impression that the theory that it's down to a lack of salts, electrolytes etc had been thoroughly debunked as the cause of cramps?
Isn’t salt in sperm, maybe that’s a new source for eliciting trace elements...
Oh Ffs.
That is all I can say.
Ffs is not nutritional, by the way, it's a polite way of expressing distain.
@ Vinney
Please quote your sources.
I don’t care - I absolutely love this stuff. I’ve got a tiny pocket bottle which I take on rides with me. First twinge of cramp and I pop a couple of drops on my tongue and I’m fresh as a daisy again. A little bottle lasts me aaaaages.
Yeah, and a little bottle of natural sea salt, sourced by natural evaporation, will do the same, last the same, and cost a lot less.
£6.90, in fact: https://jerseyseasalt.com/products/jersey-sea-salt-natural
4.8 out of 5 on the Amazon reviews too.
Makes me despair on 2 levels.
The lack of morality to be able to come up with it and sell it.
Secondly that people actually buy it.
Probably a few rich guys on yachts laughing their heads off at the life they have made selling salt as a premium product.
Isn’t salt in sperm, maybe that’s a new source for eliciting trace elements...
a long time ago in a galaxy far away - an ex-girlfriend once told me i needed more salt in my diet
First twinge of cramp and I pop a couple of drops on my tongue and I’m fresh as a daisy again. A little bottle lasts me aaaaages.
Ah yes the obecalp effect
I love these threads they bumble along until someone tries a bit of science to justify their argument then I begin to despair at how technically illiterate we really are. (and I'm at the front of the queue).
Fart in a jar anyone?
Yellow snow endurance enhancing slush puppies will be the next big thing - you heard it here first.
Yeah, and a little bottle of natural sea salt, sourced by natural evaporation, will do the same, last the same, and cost a lot less.
I'm not sticking up for the product (I'd use cheap electrolyte powder) but surely sea salt is not the same as electrolyte mix?
I’m not justifying it, it worked for me, so I (used to) use it. Don’t race now, and don’t have cramp issues. I tried a lot of things - at least 5 different energy drinks, electrolyte tablets, magnesium supplements, water, squash, drinking more, drinking less, alternating drinks. Adding Elete to High 5 worked for me.
I probably spent £50 on it in a period when I spent £1000 on entry fees, plus thousands on travel costs, bikes etc. I probably spent three times as much on tyre sealant!
Salt probably would’ve worked just fine, but meh, it’s convenient.
I’m not justifying it, it worked for me, so I (used to) use it. Don’t race now, and don’t have cramp issues. I tried a lot of things - at least 5 different energy drinks, electrolyte tablets, magnesium supplements, water, squash, drinking more, drinking less, alternating drinks. Adding Elete to High 5 worked for me.I probably spent £50 on it in a period when I spent £1000 on entry fees, plus thousands on travel costs, bikes etc. I probably spent three times as much on tyre sealant!
Salt probably would’ve worked just fine, but meh, it’s convenient.
That's fair really. In the grand scheme of things, in your context (and OPs) it's a drop in the ocean 😉 of cost compared to the overall plan.
Live and learn!
To be honest; If it stops the horrid cramp after a hard race then it'll be £30 "well" spent
I've tried racing with gels, electrolyte tabs, coffee, energy drinks, energy bars, plain water, juice, stretching after, pre stretching, long warm ups, long cool downs, naturally salty foods afterwards, adding salt to meals and none of it seems to have worked at stopping the cramp later in the day.
I'll just be making my own in the future 😆
