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Interesting times in english rugby, as has been said he will certainly ruffle some feathers. A few players might find out some harsh lessons. Will he cope with RFU interfering? let's wait and see.

McCaw what can you say, what a career. Hope he has a long happy productive life.


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 8:41 am
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Odds on him picking Robshaw?

Possibly, at 6.


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 9:15 am
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Confirmed this morning.

I expect Robshaw to get into the team. He's a tackling machine, grafts all day long and without the captaincy, he'll get into his stride again. Just not at bloody 7!

Interesting times ahead. Looking forward to seeing the next squad announcement.


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 9:43 am
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Will Eddie Jones change the style of rugby that England play? I can't see him continuing the heavy forward, 10 man style?


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 10:30 am
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Jones is a great coach and will certainly improve England. (He can hardly make them worse.)

I still feel the RFU have totally ****ed up though. Ritchie should have gone along with Rob Andrew yet they're absolving themselves of any blame. Furthermore, a director of rugby should have been appointed first who could have then led the search for the new coach.


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 10:42 am
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Campo givin' it straight on the radio this morning...

" It just looks like that you guys have no idea what you are doing.

"Where is your structure? Where are your young coaches who want to be the best in the world? It looks you are desperate, and you just go out and pay the money for somebody who you think will help you. Good luck..."


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 10:53 am
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"Where is your structure? Where are your young coaches who want to be the best in the world? It looks you are desperate, and you just go out and pay the money for somebody who you think will help you. Good luck..."

Erm....doesn't every home nation team have a foreign coach at present?
Has he forgotten about Robbie Deans?


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 10:54 am
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Campo dislikes english rugby so much he could be Welsh 😆


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 11:08 am
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I wonder if Borthwick will go? Jones demanded lesson plans from coaches and was a workaholic with a frightening attention to detail. Times says Borthwick was looking forward to Bristol for a rest!


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 11:20 am
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Looking forward to seeing the next squad announcement

Likewise. I'd expect JJ, Burrell, Watson, Brown and possibly Ford to make the 6N, but I've no idea about the rest. Launchbury, Parling, Kruis, Attwood & Lawes m& Slade all have a chance depending on form.

I reckon he'll go looking for 1,2,3, 7 & 8 and reshape the pack. I do think we've seen the last of Barrit, Haskell, possibly Wood although he could bench for Robshaw.

I'll stick my neck out and go Hartley for Captain 🙂


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 11:33 am
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Tweet from Ben Foden 😀

Have I ever said how much I like Eddie Jones as a Coach #gettinginthereearly


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 2:51 pm
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Always thought Eddie Jones looks a bit like Brian Moore's long lost brother, or is just that all hookers get their heads squished into the same shape over time?*

EDIT: *Not a new patio related comment


 
Posted : 20/11/2015 3:00 pm
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I'm liking Eddie Jones' appointment..
Would like to see Brian Ashton involved at some point though.
Anyone willing to guess the elite England squad?


 
Posted : 21/11/2015 9:09 pm
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Posted : 21/11/2015 9:55 pm
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^^ that was funny. My wife asked me why I was giggling watching the end of the match. I had to explain what he was doing. (You'd think a girl from Llanelli would have a vague understanding of the game? 🙄 )

The Scarlets did a good job of killing themselves against Racing, despite a Racing player being sent off for a stamp early in the second half. (He deserved the red imo even though it was a pathetic little kick/stamp.)


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 12:32 pm
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Strange there isn't an Englishman good enough to be coach but we have two good enough for CEO and Director of Rugby. Agreed with @namaste there should have been a clear out. Also how does an English coach get international experience so they can be a candidate in the future ?


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 7:34 pm
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Wasps are hammering Toulon....massively.

Ashley Johnson is playing hooker rather than 8, and is playing really well. Strong scrum and 100%from his 7 lineouts 😯


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 7:56 pm
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The Ospreys were beaten by Clermont's home advantage. (Oh, and the ref not awarding an obvious penalty try, not awarding a borderline try, not giving a card for Tipuric being tripped, not giving a card or penalty for Arhip being neck-rolled...)


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 8:20 pm
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IJ, I was screaming at the radio at that game! So many bad decisions!

A very good comeback, though.


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 8:32 pm
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WTF?

Wasps 32 - 6 Toulon

WTACTUALF?

Wow.


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 8:35 pm
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Was happy with Ospreys result before reading that Idle, going to sulk now. 😆


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 8:41 pm
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Tbh, as soon as George Clancy appeared on the pitch I expected the Os to lose, so business as usual I guess. A weak referee.


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 8:50 pm
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They need to put a video dossier together and get it over to EPRC.

French sides having a rough start to the competition. Certainly opening the door for the cup to come back. Reckon we could see an English side lifting it this season. Leinster are pretty bolloxed already and Munster will struggle to get out of their group, let alone any further. Ulster had a terrible start against Saracens. So can't see it going to one of the provinces. Strong opening weekends from English clubs should see lots of home advantages in the QFs.


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 9:23 pm
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Dad - what's your opinion on (if you have one) on the likes of Keith Wood stating that Leinster in particular are suffering from post World Cup physical and mental fatigue?


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 9:39 pm
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Dad?!? 😯

Do I need to see a solicitor?

EDIT: It's no surprise tbh. Leinster beat Bath last season because their set piece worked. Bath were probably better at everything else. Their scrum was shoved all over the field yesterday. Hard to believe with the personnel they have. Added to this you have the likes of Kearney and a post-Racing-somehow-become-a-bit-average Sexton misfiring. I dunno how these things work post world-cup ie re-focusing etc, but it seems there's a malaise over them at the moment. They provided the majority of Ireland's squad for the RWC so if the players are affected by it, Leinster would suffer more than most I guess.


 
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They need to put a video dossier together and get it over to EPRC.

Just like whispering the devils name three times or whatever it is - criticise an Irishman and darcy arrives in a puff of indignant smoke. 😛


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 10:29 pm
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Sorry DD - blooming autocorrect!! I just find it hard to believe that this type of mental & physical fatigue happens when Ireland really only had 2 big games in the World Cup against France and Argentina. How much rugby have the likes of heaslip, Healy, sexton, kearneys etc actually play since the end of last season? I'd imagine not a huge amount although the training camps can obviously be pretty brutal. some of the sections have been a bit strange too...not selecting an international full back in Kerchner (sp?) and playing Madison who is at best a utility 10/12 and has limited experience in he back 3.


 
Posted : 23/11/2015 7:30 am
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Strange there isn't an Englishman good enough to be coach but we have two good enough for CEO and Director of Rugby.

Coach isn't a job for life,thats why.


 
Posted : 23/11/2015 9:26 am
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I won't comment on Rob Andrew as I am not sure of his role. But as far as the CEO is concerned his remit ranges far wider than just the performance of the English team. The RFU have just held one of the best World Cups, this is a significant achievement. Likewise much in English Rugby has improved during his tenure, the friction between club and country is much reduced, the Women's game is on a much stronger footing and Ritchie was instrumental in ensuring that the European Club Game didn't split. I think he has sufficient credit in the bank to offset England's very disappointing World Cup performance.


 
Posted : 23/11/2015 10:58 am
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Ritchie's is an administrative role, and one he's bloody good at.


 
Posted : 23/11/2015 11:02 am
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Well in respect of my dealings with him regarding RWC tickets he's a worthless arse coverer.

Wasps 32 - 6 Toulon

CFH any side with Quade Cooper at 10 is capable of a spectacular loss 🙂 to be totally fair I haven't seen the game. As an aside given they have signed him that makes the chances of Cipriani going there look slimmer.


 
Posted : 23/11/2015 11:13 am
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Jonah Lomu likely to have died as a result of a blood clot on his lung formed when flying back from the RWC. Doctor said he was more suseptable to clots as a resukt of his condition. Doubly sad.


 
Posted : 23/11/2015 2:43 pm
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Read an article about Creatine and whether its use was linked to Lomu's illness. A lot of supposition and lack of any hard evidence but interesting nontheless.

[url= http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/neil-francis-on-jonah-lomu-a-life-lost-needlessly-34222682.html ]Jonah Lomu - A Life Lost Needlessly[/url]


 
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Ritchie's is an administrative role, and one he's bloody good at.

Yes he is but how does that qualify him to appoint a coach?

ON the evidence of the last four years it doesn't.


 
Posted : 24/11/2015 5:16 pm
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/34931298 ]Shouldn't laugh, but.....[/url]

Sam Burgess's move back to South Sydney Rabbitohs has stalled as it will take the club over the NRL's salary cap.
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The deal was confirmed earlier this month but the Rabbitohs have been told [b][i]they must release players in order to register Burgess[/i][/b], who helped them win the NRL title in 2014.

The club are yet to comment.

(My italics).

So, in essence, someone else is going to have to make way for him. Again.


 
Posted : 26/11/2015 8:25 pm
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Yes he is but how does that qualify him to appoint a coach?

ON the evidence of the last four years it doesn't.


He has a team around him to help with the decision. Remember, it was a very popular appointment at the time, with near unanimous approval.


 
Posted : 26/11/2015 8:28 pm
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RE: Burgess & that salary cap, it didn't stop his last club did it? 😆


 
Posted : 26/11/2015 8:39 pm
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Ospreys put it to the piemen

Exeter are a solid team, been down there a few times, apart from them trying to charge £6.50 for a pasty it's always been fun.


 
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Finally caught up on the Wasps v Toulon game, worth 15 mins to watch these highlights I'd say. Wasps made and took their chances well. Toulon have had a mixed start generally but had a good win away at Clermont today. Having their game against Bath pushed back has probably helped them.


 
Posted : 28/11/2015 11:47 pm
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Piece in the Telegrapgh today where reades have selected their choice for the next England captain - something like

3. Brown
2. Hartley 😯 😯
1. Launchberry

Launchberry looks to have a bright future but doesn't seem to be a leader. In my view it should be Brown or possibly Ford


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 1:06 pm
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Brown 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 1:09 pm
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Spikey Mikey is hanging up his boots.

I'm sure Ireland supporters will wish him well....!


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 5:11 pm
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Despite his record, Hartley has a long period of experience as Captain, and Saints don't do too bad...


 
Posted : 01/12/2015 5:14 pm
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Kyrton having been at the Heineken final where he called Barnes a cheat and then seeing he has binned his chance of being on the Lions tour I wouldn't want to see that rewarded with the captaincy. Hes a bit old too (?) doesn't feel like the future.

Pigface, Brown is the least worst choice, plus I think he'll bring a certain calmness to our decision making 🙂 I am struggling to see other candidates who are likely to be guaranteed starters.


 
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