Bored with penalties on both sides now. Two matches dominated by the bloody whistle
C'mon let's have some rugby....
Not ref fault if loads of errors from really aggressive defense. It is the way of the 6n so far. Defense on top of attack.Ireland are getting mullered in every way other than scoreboard. Can they defend like that for 80?
Well try a betting site then.
Good game. Ireland lucky to be 3 down. Big call for Poite on the non-try. Hartley was pushed over, which is far game. Try or scrum 5, never a pen to Ireland.
Ireland seem to have come to play this week. Maybe too much, getting caught behind the gain line a lot.
Ref seems alright. England lacking composure. Have they been watching Wales?
Half time team talk - "Just bloody give it to Billy!"
Doh,I must have attracted the spambot...
Go on Ireland
Accidental my arse
Brown is a **** but i do think that was unintended but incredibly stupid
Unlucky Ireland. I'd have given that
Nervous times when the most indecisive man on the pitch defends scrum half...
Brown is a lucky boy. Some good tries from england but they do look like they het tired in the last 15.
Wouldn't surprise me if the brown incident gets a citing review. Nasty gobshite. Shame foden is still not back otherwise would love to see him replaced
Good job that wasn't a full strength Ireland otherwise the stupid penalties could have cost us dear.
Two big matches of the weekend ultimately very unsatisfying.
How many penalties came from our experienced players????
Is it a nice arse BM? 😉
Still for a crap team, 3/3 aint bad !
Brown haterz going hate....very good under the high ball wasn't he!!! 😀
Cite Brown 😆
England best of the mediocre? Tbh I can't see them beating the Welsh
"Cite" is that cockney rhyming slang for Mike or autocorrect 😀
Dontvthink Brown should have been given a red but a yellow for him and Care wouldnt have been unfair. When Ireland played with tempo england struggled. Cant see Wales winning at Twickers though, they are not playing well enough. Still 2 weeks of shite from Gatland and Jones could be funny.
Brown haterz going hate....
He wasn't even looking at Murray, it was an accident.
Good job that wasn't a full strength Ireland otherwise the stupid penalties could have cost us dear.
Agreed. Farrell's defence was borderline late on occasion. However, Itoje looks like he's got 50 caps and is a menace at the breakdown. Add Clifford and that may solve a problem for England.
Ford, well meh.
In total [s]we[/s] Vunipola battered Ireland from the start, went off the boil at 60. Wales will be better and we can't afford to go in at half time level or behind them IMO.
He wasn't even looking at Murray, it was an accident
Quite.
The ref & TMO had a good look at the replay of the Brown incident and decided it was nothing. Thought the Care sin in was harsh.
2 good games today.
Great defence of Brown by the English fans. 😆
He kicked a prone player four times. But it was an accident! If he'd been Irish what colour card should he receive?
Lovely arse THM for a retired prop 😀
Eng certainly deserved the win and Billy V was excellent, he smashed Trimble who is usually a very good defender. Lots to improve on from Ireland and time to give Sexton and Kearney a rest.
So Brown wasn't looking at Murray? He was being reckless then.
Reckless and stupid yes. Deliberate no.
He is a dick though
I think reckless use of the boot should be yellow
Reckless and stupid yes.
Yellow card.
Deliberate
Red card and a ban.
Whether it was one or the other he still made repeat contact with his boot to the head of another player.
Agreed. Hence why he is a dick
Hughes recieved a ban for less.
I think Farrell get very petulant with a player on the ground at about 56 mins (beyond the ruck as the ball is moving). Probably won't get cited.
(can't post, it's just before teh try that swings out left). Doesn't affect the try but....
Brown will be shopping for biscuits as we speak. At least he has pulled ahead in the "who's a bigger dick" contest with Hogg. As for the suggestion he isn't looking at Murray,is anybody seriously suggesting he isn't aware of what he is doing?
Meh. Ireland will probably feel a few key decisions went against them but in the end [s]England[/s] Billy deserved the win. As a neutral it always looked like a game that Ireland weren't going to win even with the breaks due to the sustained pressure. It probably didn't feel like that for an English fan though I'd imagine, especially with the two binnings. Again, as a neutral, I can't say it felt like England were down to 14 either time and they seemed fairly comfortable.
Agree with a_a that despite being pretty poor I can easily see them beating Wales at home.
Though it is normally the second rows that boot people in the head being "clumsy" and get away with it, I'd still be amazed if Brown isn't cited
IdleJon - MemberHe kicked a prone player four times.
Thats the most one-eyed piece of bullshit I've ever seen on this forum - and I include my own posts - and actually its just a lie - I'd conclude you're either blind drunk or trolling
He did nothing of the sort. He contested for the ball with his boot, and made contact with his heel/Murray's face once by accident, when he couldn't even see where his face was. It may be reckless, but he didn't once deliberately kick Murray.
Very few high tackles, tip tackles, apparent eye gouges, etc, etc are deliberate but are instead reckless... doesn't mean you can do whatever you fancy
He kicked a prone player four times
Over react much?
He [i]might[/i] have connected very lightly and accidentally once, and Murray shouldn't have been holding the bloody ball anyway!
Thats the most one-eyed piece of bullshit I've ever seen on this forum
Quite right.
Brand Haskell was the lucky one, I'd say. Not supporting his weight and killing the ball right in front of the posts when the team was on warning and he'd already had a yellow. Lucky.
Agree CFH, I reckon that if Care didn't get a yellow, the hask would have.
No, not drinking. Watch it again. One heel to the head, then another, then he changes foot and kicks Murray in the shoulder and then swaps again to his other foot for a kick at the shoulder. Seriously, wtf were you watching?
It doesn't matter whether he contacted lightly, he still managed to take Murray off the pitch. Was it any different to a mistimed tackle that took a player out in the air? Or a player who accidentally lifts a players legs more than 90 and dumps them on tgeir back? Both of which would be a straight yellow. Take your eye-patches off 'chaps'.
Btw, I agree with DanW - England were far and away the better team. They look better than Wales at the mo.
The ball was on the ground. Brown was absolutely entitled to kick it away. Murray should not have been cuddling the ball on the ground. Penalty england.
think Farrell get very petulant with a player on the ground at about 56 mins
Was that clearing out about two rucks before the try? I would have liked to see that from the other angle.
I agree wrecker, but the penalty then gets superseded by the unintentional foul play.
Even more one eyed than your WC predictions Kryton? Why don't you just adopt the Wrecker defence of anybody who is critical of England is chippy and bitter? Or if you are a WC winner,a dick.
Possibly idlejon, but it's wrong to colour brown the villain. He was perfectly entitled to kick that ball. The ref hadn't blown for holding on (as he should), Murray was clearly cheating.
Or if you are a WC winner,a dick.
Actually I called him a prick, because he is. Npothing to do with being a WC winner. Mark Regan has won a WC. He's a prick too.
Duck man I reference my own posts if you read what I said.
See wrecker above, there's no more to be said. But I think you'll find I too have criticised England and England's players, despite being a fan.
a_a yes that might be it. Just to the right of the posts iirc
Superb! So that is now an England pen? 😀
