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I loved my dual control.
Would buy again 100 %.
Never got mixed up between brakes and gear changes and it left the bars uncluttered. Though I spec helps alleviate this problem now.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 12:38 am
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I switched to grishift way back in the 90's when I bought a pair of X Rays.

I just can't get my head around any other kind of shifting now.

That says as much about me as it does about gripshift though.

Shame they are a lot more needlessly complex than they used to be though.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 2:05 am
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"Scott-Pedersen self energising cantilevers.... Never saw a set in the wild."

I have some. Never seemed significantly better than normal cantis tbh.

(I've also got some of the Suntour ones that worked on the same principle)


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 10:47 am
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id buy that crud claw!

and if they did something to clean my jockey wheels id be a happy man


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 11:25 am
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and if they did something to clean my jockey wheels id be a happy man

They do, it's GT-85 and a rag.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 11:33 am
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[quote="CaptainFlashheart"]Spinergy, URT, XTR remote, massive saddle, bar ends at a bonkers angle...!Ah. A newbie.
That's a perfectly normal sized fizik Nisene.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 11:49 am
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I still have self energising sun tour cantis on my tandem. They don't seem to work any better then normal brakes.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 12:02 pm
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Couldn't remember the name of the "wire for a downtube" bikes I posted yesterday - Slingshot, of course! And they still make them!

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Although most of the bikes on slingshotbikes.com do appear to have coventional downtubes.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 12:33 pm
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Can I play? Magnesium frames a la Kirk.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 1:05 pm
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That's a perfectly normal sized fizik Nisene

I had one of those it was great! I lost it after my Bontrager seat post broke and the saddle subsequently fell out of my Camelbak when I was riding off the hills. I still look hopefully for it when I ride up there fifteen years later. I think it was the best saddle I've ever had.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 1:14 pm
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See a mint and era-appropriately specced Kirk most days commuting in Oxford.So they didn't ALL crack.

Semislick rear tyres with large edge knobs.

Never been to a CX race, then! I ran Challenge file treads with large side knobs front and rear all summer and most of this current 'winter' season.

The Lemond, Scott and similar bars were killed off by UCI regs not by them being poor.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 1:21 pm
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[quote="beargrease"]I think it was the best saddle I've ever had.for its time, yeah it was pretty good.

[quote="crashtestmonkey"]The Lemond, Scott and similar bars were killed off by UCI regs not by them being poor.no, the UCI banned them as they were dangerous in bunch racing. In other words, they were poor.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 2:31 pm
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I don't know about a "dead end" - I quite fancy trying a HammerSchmidt on my Liteville.

SRAM are quite good at launching interesting things involving epicyclic gears, then not developing them any further. See also the Automatix hub.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 2:41 pm
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Why not a Schlumpf or its cheaper incarnation, ATS speed-drive?


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 2:52 pm
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Can I play? Magnesium frames a la Kirk.

Did Ironman Canada on one of them back in '93, loved that bike!

Not my bike but...

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Posted : 09/11/2016 3:19 pm
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Why not a Schlumpf or its cheaper incarnation, ATS speed-drive?

Oh dear, I've just bought a bike with a Schlumpf...


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 3:25 pm
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I used to run a Hammerschmitd. It was fine till I got fitter and just went 1x10 and now 1x11.

I now realise that simple things are pretty much always an improvement over complicated things.

Especially when you include mud and people.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 3:26 pm
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Arlo Englund air cartridges - to replace the elasomers in crappy '90s forks. Air springs with 30cc of volume and air damping.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 3:43 pm
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Rotor 'articulated' Cranks

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https://bikemagic.com/bike-components/rotor-cranks.html

Rotor still exists of course but they just seem to sell conventional cranks and oval chainrings now....


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 3:49 pm
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[img] http://wiki.multitool.org/show_image.php?id=920 [/img]


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 4:03 pm
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Derailleurs.

Wait a few years and you'll see I'm right... 🙂


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 4:09 pm
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They've been saying that since I started in 1983


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 4:18 pm
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They've been saying that since I started in 1983

I was saying it back then too.

Just wait... 🙂


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 4:49 pm
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regs not by them being poor.
no, the UCI banned them as they were dangerous in bunch racing. In other words, they were poor.

Yeah. Just like disc brakes.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 5:35 pm
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Weren't those bikes with a wire for a downtube called 'Crossbow' too ?


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 5:36 pm
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HID lights

Still got a Hope HID i bought in 2006. Works perfectly. Its kind of humiliated in the lumens stakes buy anything costing more then £30 these days though.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 5:59 pm
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Ah - the "CoolTool". Still useful if you've got a bolt up hub gear - Katie has it in her 'city' pack.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 6:08 pm
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Still got a Hope HID i bought in 2006. Works perfectly.

I had two (don't ask) Lupine Edisons. I reckon they were much better than the cheap LEDs I have now. Problem is that after maybe 5 years or so the bulbs went, and it was a hundred ****ing quid for a replacement!


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 6:12 pm
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24" wheel DH bikes.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 6:14 pm
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Weren't those bikes with a wire for a downtube called 'Crossbow' too ?

Might be the Corratec Race Bow that you're thinking about.
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Can we add coloured tyres to the dead ends? Not skinwalls, obviously.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 9:34 pm
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Slingshot.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 9:40 pm
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According to the experts at Bikeradar,
[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/article/why-the-275-plus-standard-is-doomed-48551/ ]27.5+[/url]. I hadn't even realised it was a thing, so I guess it'll be gone before I ever try one.

Possibly contentious but... Rohloff. I had one, they're still around, but it's not really evolving, is it? It's kinda like a crocodile - it just is, and it's happy in its own little niche, without having to evolve into anything better.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 10:32 pm
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Rapid rise. I wish they still made them but sadly it's dead..


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 10:52 pm
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There was this ...
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And then there was a triple clamp conversion to tame the performance of your 63mm travel judys.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 10:54 pm
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"Railed it"


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 11:02 pm
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According to the experts at Bikeradar,
27.5+. I hadn't even realised it was a thing, so I guess it'll be gone before I ever try one.

Damnit - mine is due to arrive next week!

Fortunately it can take 29" wheels too so I can just move back to them... unless Bikeradar have ruled they are for the chop too!

My submission - mahoosive frames that you will "grow into". My Raleigh Memphis was a 24" monster! It was like a gate with wheels!


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 11:42 pm
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There was this ...

I've got one of those. 🙂

(It's intended for one of my Frankenstein projects, possibly a SS event)


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:08 am
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Always hoped it would prevent chainsuck....

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Posted : 10/11/2016 2:45 am
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Elastomers
V-brakes
rims that are far to narrow for the tyre size.
Tubular knobblies

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I'm thinking that a rigid version of this would allow 29" boost disk wheels to be attached into a 26" brake boss only frame.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 6:49 am
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There was this

What is that?!?!


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 8:24 am
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I've got one of those.

Please tell us how it rides 🙂


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 10:58 am
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wow, power grips still exist!

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I hated toe clips and straps and bought a pair of these just as SPDs came out... They were purple with yellow writing 🙂


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 11:09 am
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Power grips useful for people who want to do lots of hikeabike as you can use walking boots. Also useful in mega cold conditions because you can wear proper winter boots.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 11:27 am
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LOt of the guys round here use them, so they can do XC/trail type riding through the winter wearing their normal winter hiking boots.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 11:31 am
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[quote="crashtestmonkey"]Yeah. Just like disc brakes.Um, no. Actually nothing at all like disc brakes.


 
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