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Stans Podium MMX aren't lighter because they are disc specific per se, but because they are pressure limited to a max of 33 psi. I had a set of Mavic 230's back in the day and you could run them at around 60-70 psi easily. (I used to use road tyres on mine for road training as I couldn't afford a road bike).Worth noting that the Mavic 230 was out around 1994 and yet we haven't made huge progress in aluminium rim weights in 20 years.
Pretty unusual to want to run 2.1" tyres at 60psi though, not sure that's a bad thing to have reduced the envelope in which they work. I'd say that having reduced weight by almost 30% is pretty good.
I take your point re the podiums, but I don't think it's like for like even with Crossmax's.
Did Stan's do a rim brake rim? What did it weigh compared to its contemporaneous disc Stan's rims.
My Stans Alphas would weigh 320gm, I suppose that's a valid comparison, so 10% odd seems reasonable.
I WAS WRONG!
Nice to see you back trolling GW/Gary Extreme (mtbel), couldn't stay away despite slagging all the stw fannies off on Facebook eh?
What a surprise.
Yes it's amusing to watch mtbel morph back into GW!
I think the Stan's 355 was 370g in rim brake flavour.
I thought his responses were a bit 'pointy'
I ran 25mm spesh road tyres on 230s at 90psi for a few chaingangs. Admit it, a little sex wee just escaped didn't it? 😛
crashtestmonkey - Member
at the risk of interrupting this love-in...
then a Croix de Fer with mechanical discs, and now one with shimano hydraulics. Each one has been a step up in braking performance, with no downsides that I can see.
my Hack has cheap Promax cable discs that I was fully expecting to have to replace. They are as good as the original Hope Minis I bought (on the same rotor size), which were my first discs and a bit underwhelming after all the hype. Not tried hydraulics on drop-barred bikes but I am struggling to justify upgrading to Spyres let alone hydros.Not saying hydros aren't better, just that I'm impressed how good even cheap mechanicals are.
When I got the CX Experts on my first CDF they were a big step up on the rim brakes on my Jake - infact I said so, so we are in agreement 🙂
....and as you say, you haven't tried the drop bar hydraulics.... 😛