[Closed] Winter Mud Tyre

Mud x I was amazed by it last winter will not run anything else now. Cuts through mud and is rock steady on everything.

Raced on Bonty muds at the weekend on a muddy, rooty, off-camber, rocky, steep course - excellent. Hooked up on anything, able to brake/steer/climb everywhere, confidence inspiring and yet still fast enough on the fireroad section. I'm going to take them off and save them for the truly yeuch weather!

Panaracer trailrakers are my tyre of choice for the winter, nothing else is as good ime. Well worth a look.

oi moron,
the question was about winter tyres,
dont you have a summer oooop north /

Er, it was sunny today, there was a nice day last month and I'm sure it was sunny for a couple of days in May or June. Snow on tops on Sunday. 🙂

The Panaracer trailrakers also looks nice but with it only being 66TPI and having such marketing splurg as "ASB" and "ZSG" i'm lost already and on that note "I'm out"

So 2 votes for Bontrager Mud-x so far.

I ran a Maxxis Medusa last winter it was frikkin' awesome in the mud for sure.

I've got a LUST Medusa for this coming Winter

Not ridden any of the others but I'd also recommend the Mud-X if you're riding in through a mix of mud/wet rock/roots/hardpack.
If it's just mud you're riding through then there are probably better tyres.

i find the trailrakers have a very narrow profile even the 2.0, also i've had 2 pairs of them and found they only last one winter, when i've refitted them for the winter the side walls have eroded with loads of holes in them.

I ran the Spesh Control on the rear over last winter, and won't hesitate to get another one when the time comes. Really grippy, more so than the Trailrakers - from what I recall having had them a few years ago.

Run Mud X on the back all year round unless there is a period of at least 3 weeks dry weather - perfect compromise between decent grip for the mud we get round here and rollability on the 4 mile of road to get to the trail

so more votes for the Mud-x

Doesn't the Mud-X get clogged up a bit when it get tacky?
It seems to have less open space that the Maxxis Medusa which i would indicate it would??

Does anybody have any views on the Panaracer Fire Mud Pro 1.85?

for the tightarses out there, the michelin XC/ATs are a tenner from one-one, they are skinny if you like that kinda thing but cut through and shed well; can get a bit washy if you start leaning over really hard, they dont have as many blocks on the edges as the maxxis or bontragers

I'm tempted to have a go with the bontys as well, the ones I have at the moment are for bone dry trails, so a really good choice for manchester....

Only had the Mud X, great tyre

Is the medusa larger volume? also difference in price?

Medusa is low volume, is slightly lighter and is coming in cheaper atm £20 via CRC

2.1 medusa smaller than Mud X? comparitive to other Maxxis 2.1?

always get a swampy 2.35 on the front haha!

Have Swampthings on my FR bike for Tractoring through almost anything 🙂 Def not a XC tyre when there in ST 2.35

much difference between 70a & 62a?

Dunno about the Medusa. I ran 2.3 60a swampthings. Very good and surprisingly goidvon roots and rocks. I'll be running them again this winter.

like Schwalbe Black Sharks.

Trailrakers are great, but are a PITA to run tubless.

so if not tubless run them, if you are tubless run bony Mud X's

The Mud X's also feel better on wet roots to me, but for full on mud (as the OP suggests then I don't think you can beat a Trailraker.

I've used a 2.0 Trailraker in the past, but would chose the narrower 1.8? on the rear if I was getting them again.

Cut down 2.2" Maxxis Wetscreams with a Super Tacky up front and a 60a on the rear..

Winner.

Mud X, phenominal bit of kit! Thick mud is no problem, wet shiny roots and slimy slick rock are shown similar contempt.

I bought mine at a Merida marathon. We don't get mud up here (Caithness) like the hub deep gloop that was prevalent at the event and on the Saturday getting a sighter in, it was horendous. I thought there was no way i could ride in this stuff (on 2.1 fire xc). Got some mud x and ripped it apart. People could not believe where i was able to find traction.

Get some or get your head looked into. You might think they look or feel flimsy. I never punctured on them!

Agree re all positive comments re Mud X. Don't clog, plenty of grip and roll well.

flyingfox - Member

like Schwalbe Black Sharks.

+1 in a 1.5" width.

Yet to be convinced that there anything better as an all-rounder than than the Mud-x, though I can't say I'm as convinced of there abilities on wet root as some above. The Trailrakers are better 'mud only' tyre but they're so much hard work everywhere else I'm not sure their worth it.

There was a brief mention of a swampthing, has anybody else tried them? I'm thing of 2.35 ST front and 60a rear rans tubeless?

Or do we still reckon Mud X are better? especially tubeless?

IME, the mud X is the best 'winter all-rounder' second only to the mighty IRC Mud Mad (RIP). Trailrakers I found better in mud but less good on limestone and roots.

When it get really sticky, sometimes the mudX suffers from lack of grip since its knobs aren't really that high, so I use a swamp thing on the front. Outside of clay like areas (Epping Forest, Ridgeway, Mendips, etc...) that shouldn't be a problem though.

No experience of Medusa's though.

Soo, i'm kinda leaning towards the Bontrager Mud-X with everyones recommendations. Hopefully it will out perform the Medusa in all areas.

I bought a pair of 1.8 Medussas for Mayhem when I was convinced it was going to be hell - which it wasn't. I've been dying to try them out for ages and after all the recent rain I convinced myself to put them on the Yeti.

I can report good and bad things.

The 30m ride we did seemed to be mainly on the road going between various bridle paths and they seem very sticky and draggy compared to my usual crossmarks.

On/in the mud though they were amazing, didn't lose traction cut through and gripped like no tyre I've tried before.

They are coming off later on today but I can't wait for Winter and all that mud so I can use them again.

I don't think mud-X's will be better than Medusas in out and out mud.

+1 for the Trailrakers. Very good in the gloop up here in Scotland, and I've never had a problem with roots or rocks with them. Current pair will be on their second wintere when I get around to putting them on

Any advantage in having 62a over 70a in mud?

70a will be a bit slippery on roots and rocks. It won't matter in the mud though.

Have run trailrakers for the last 5+ years - 1.95 come up small which is good as the frame doesn't clog up. Very good in mud but not too impressed with them on tarmac or roots (though the roots might be my riding style). Have run them with tubes and ghetto tubeless with no problems. Wear rate has been good as well. Might try Mud X as a better all round / faster rolling tyre next.

Never got on with Trailrakers, terrible on roots and rocks.

Ran some emergency purchase Mud Xs at 24/12, brilliant! Gained 15 mins a lap on the high rollers that came off. Seem to be good on roots and rocks too.

Mud X is good... But tbh my usual rule is that if a bit of trail needs a mud tyre, I just avoid it, riding through it when it's that bad is a quick way to damage the trail. If a Nevegal can't shovel me through it I don't ride it. But, ymmv of course, not got a problem with anyone who does differently, it just might be worth bearing in mind.

I used 2.1 Medusas all winter last year, they are great in muddy or soft conditions but they're a bit lethal on roots, I scared the sh!t out of myself a couple of times on fast descents. I might try and see how the Ignitors go this year or stick a Swampthing on the front. Mud X look worth a try though.

Panaracer trailrakers are my tyre of choice for the winter, nothing else is as good ime. Well worth a look.

+1

Although the only other mud tyre i've used was an IRC Mud mad - also very good. I get the impression its not too hard to make a good mud tyre - big, widely-spaced nobs.

I've used a Medusa 2.0 LUST up front with a trailraker rear, and Mud X front and rear.
Mud X 2.0's are stupidly soft and grippy.. to the point that the edge tread wears out faster than the middle. I've managed to tear the casing a couple of times on the rear though (tubeless). I'd deffo run them as a front tyre again, but would think about a proper UST for the rear.
Medusas aren't quite so good on slimy rooty stuff but generally hold up really well.. Almost as well as the mud x. Having a LUST one means that silly pressures aren't dangerously scary, but they don't have the edge holding that Mud X's do.
I'd rate both over trailrakers for a front tyre, although trailrakers make a brilliant rear if you're happy that they'll be nervous at a high lean angle.

I would say Trailrakers

But I do have a pair of Specalized Storm controls
only used on one ride for £ 20 quid the pair
I am in London

@Grantway - What Size are the tyres?

Ok 26 inch tyre and 2.0

I've had Mud-X for the last 2 winters in 2.0" dual compound, awesome tyres.

Most of my winter riding is done around Delamere/Cheshire where it's a mixture mud, sandy gloop, wet roots and more often than not very wet roots.

They're simply awesome in those kind of conditions, to be honest I've had them on my SS since May and I've been riding them when it's been dry and dusty - not draggy in the slightest, great cornering and all round traction.

Way tougher than a little 2.0" tyre should be.

Another vote for mud x from me.

Run them at Swinley from late autumn to spring. Don't both changing them during winter. Nice tyre - would buy again.

smurf

Grantway - have you sold the storm controls?

I have a pair of Trailrakers which are over a year old and still looking in mint condition and never had a single puncture in spite of getting months of use out of them before spring finally appeared, contrary to a comment made earlier about them not lasting.

Captain control are fantastic all rounders and well priced but sorry, can't agree about them being any good as winter tyres, thick mud slop sticks to them like glue, rather like the same effect in mud with Kenda Nevegals.

I recently purchased some Mud X's as well as I'm fed up with swapping tyres for each of my bikes.

I'm running the trailrakers on the rear of each bike with the Mud X's up front and it is working out superbly. 8)

Mud X here. Used 2.0s on the ti456 for two winters now and just bought a pair of 1.8s for the 853 Rock Lobster. Top tyres.

Kev

Can't edit my post above now but just realised I've misread a tyre brand, I had some Captain's which obviously ain't the same tyre and tread as the Storm control's, which look good b.t.w after viewing the tread on them.

Please ignore previous comment. 😆

i used to run medusa in the 1.8 vesion. great in the mud but found them very draggy on anything else. looking at the tread pattern and the mud x and storm seem to look like they might roll slightly better due to having the tread pattern a bit closer together down the centre. also the medusas are very low volume and were quite a harsh ride if i remember. are the other two any higher in volume? any thoughts

60a 2.35 Swampies F and R for me. We don't get much mud but we do get wet roots and snow, which they excel in. I think it may be time to change this weekend actually. I run them ghetto tubeless and they rock!

there are better mud tyres than the mud X, but it is what i use as a three season (autumn, winter, spring) tyre because it handles most conditions well.