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its always the drivers fault. its always white van drivers fault, bloody women drivers
cynic-al - Member*puts oscillatewildly down for this week's "BS of the week" thread*
how so? as far as im aware you should not be running the engine with your lights on, on the road side if you know you are stopping for any length of time? as above its courtesy if you do in an emergency have to stop on the side of the road to have an indicator on for traffic behind to let motorist know that you have pulled in....
as i said if shes properly parked up with no lights on nor engine running she hasnt done a thing wrong, if shes running the engine still with her lights on the rear of the car and no indicator on it could appear to other motorists/road users she is still on the road if visibility is not great...
lets be honest, its STW the woman in question isnt going to admit to doing anything wrong, and naturally posting it on here you only ever hear one side of the story.....
if we were to believe everyones stories on here with half the truth then the other person in question would be hung, drawn and quartered every time....
Glad nobody was seriously hurt. We had a similar thing out here. Amaia was waiting to enter a roundabout and heard an almighty bang and the car shook, looked in the rear mirrors and nothing. Then saw the guy in the car behind getting out. She got out and there's a cyclist KO'd on the road behind her! She said she could smell the dope as she got close 🙂 He went away in an ambulance and she sat there on the roadside in 30degC heat for an hour until the special police arrived to measure everything. The guy was OK, in big trouble with his wife apparently. The police advised her to prosecute for the damage to the car because the guy was obviously off his tits and should have to pay. We didn't, through laziness.
The best thing was you could see a face dent and two hand dents on the boot of the car. Then there were a series of scrapes down the back of the car as he's slid down. Poor guy! We sold the car a few months ago but it always made me smile seeing the dents. Remember, if you're too stoned to drive then you're probably too stoned to ride too 🙂
The police advised her to prosecute for the damage to the car because the guy was obviously off his tits and should have to pay. We didn't, through laziness.The best thing was you could see a face dent and two hand dents on the boot of the car.
Well I wouldn't have got that repaired either 🙂
So OW
indicator not, lights on and engine running = wifeys fault
So a road user can run into a stationary car in these circumstances?
BS
I didn't mention that the cyclist was in his early-mid 60's.
I reckon there should be some compulsory testing for cyclists approaching that sort of age if they can't even see a white van parked on the road.
The cyclists I know approaching that age are too slow to cause any damage.
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So OWindicator not, lights on and engine running = wifeys fault
So a road user can run into a stationary car in these circumstances?
BS
im just stating that it may have looked to him like the car was running and moving (albeit very slowly) if the car didnt look like it was in stationary mode ie, lights off , engine stopped.
i re-read the op again and said that if it was she pulled in properly and stopped engine then the guy must be totally blind....
as i said we only hear what the op wants us to read, so these sort of threads are stupid
I ran into the back of a car once. Old boy in a Fiesta passed me on the approach to a roundabout then stopped dead even though it was completely clear( big open roundabout with a clear view) Cue faceplant on his back window.
I was well impressed that I managed to stay on the bike!
He didn't stop, probably becuase I was doing a lot of shouting!
You ran into the back of a stationary vehicle?richmtb - Member
I ran into the back of a car once. Old boy in a Fiesta passed me on the approach to a roundabout then stopped dead even though it was completely clear( big open roundabout with a clear view) Cue faceplant on his back window.
You ran into the back of a stationary vehicle?
Well yes, he had some packs of A4 on the parcel shelf so I would say it was more of a stationery vehicle
im just stating that it may have looked to him like the car was running and moving (albeit very slowly) if the car didnt look like it was in stationary mode ie, lights off , engine stopped.
It's the cyclist's responsibility to maintain a safe distance from the vehicle in front.
The worst we can say about the OP is that she may have committed a technical infringement by using her mobile whilst the engine was still running. Not the most heinous crime in the world...
It's not uncommon.
Someone I know on her road bike hit an MR2 with the top down. She ended up upside down in the passenger seat with a rather smashed bike. If it had been a van the outcome would have been less than funny.
Another hit a van (road bike again).
And a triathlete hit a parked car with the bootlid up on the A69 near us, that one was fatal 🙁
I've just remembered that I once ran into the back of a stationary vehicle - and it wasn't my fault at all.
ransos - Memberim just stating that it may have looked to him like the car was running and moving (albeit very slowly) if the car didnt look like it was in stationary mode ie, lights off , engine stopped.
It's the cyclist's responsibility to maintain a safe distance from the vehicle in front.
The worst we can say about the OP is that she may have committed a technical infringement by using her mobile whilst the engine was still running. Not the most heinous crime in the world...
i dont doubt it at all, and by the sounds of it, hes clearly blind (given information) just that drivers are'nt very courteous to each other alot of the time on the road, let alone cyclists etc
Honestly, I'd be amazed if the engine running thing could stand up in court. Any other road user has no indication of whether or not the engine is running on a stationary car, so how could that possibly have any bearing on liability? Lights, indicators, road position yes I get that, but engine running? Seriously?
In any case. Car driving and then slows down suddenly - cyclists fault, isn't it (alwasy the rear-ending party?); car already stopped - car's fault. Wtf?
Honestly, I'd be amazed if the engine running thing could stand up in court. Any other road user has no indication of whether or not the engine is running on a stationary car, so how could that possibly have any bearing on liability? Lights, indicators, road position yes I get that, but engine running? Seriously?
i dont think it would stand up in court for one minute...if the car is quite modern they often have auto lights, so if the engines on maybe running lights automatically if the engines on and weather looks dull/going dark or she may just have had the lights on out of choice anyways
theres not really a great way of telling if the engines on from a distance other than the lights as a give away, i just wonder if they were on, then maybe rider (blind as he may be) just assumed it was a moving vehicle...
alwasy the rear-ending party?) I that the one MPs go to on Clapham Common?
For those who seemed confused by the acronym... http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/
Car could have broken down. Whose fault is it then?
if i was broken down regardless of where i was (other than my own drive/street) id put my hazard lights on, to let people know i was not there out of choice and prewarn if it could cause a hazard...
it is the cyclists fault given what the OP has said, do just wonder smoetimes people of here bend the truth to get the answers they want....
anyways im bored now and as long as they are both ok... im going trying to find this thief in london, much more interesting!
About 35 years ago I was cycling down a steepish hill and pulled out to pass a bus stopped picking up passengers. As I pulled back in I suddenly noticed a queue of cars from the traffic lights further ahead and ran into the back of a small car. Had scrubbed off most of my speed and not sure who was more surprised - me or female driver.
if i was broken down regardless of where i was (other than my own drive/street) id put my hazard lights on, to let people know i was not there out of choice and prewarn if it could cause a hazard..
Electrical fault causing hazards not to work?
Any way, can you see where I am going with this? It seems nonsensical to blame the driver or the cyclist based on arbitrary factors that do not actually contribute to the accident. You either have a responsibility to look where you are going/pull off the road nicely or you don't.
What if a cyclist stopped at the side of the road (no exhaust fumes, no lights) and a car ran into the back if him?
Car driving and then slows down suddenly - cyclists fault, isn't it (alwasy the rear-ending party?)
Not in my case - I'm disappointed nobody has yet bitten.
Go on then aracer I'll bite. I'm also not sure my incident was 100% my fault either
I can also think of an occassion where i nearly rear ended a car while driving that wouldn't have been my fault
Pretty similar to yours, rich - was in a 30 limit going down a hill, doing the speed limit (honest, occifer). Got overtaken by a car which decided to stop for a hitch hiker - brake lights were on before it had pulled back in front of me. I had nowhere to go.
Yeah if a car thats just passed you stops suddenly without you expecting it what chance have you got.
The stopping dead at a roundabout thing is actually a pretty well know insurance scam
I still don't see what difference a running engine could make to liability, if that is what OW is still arguing...
Nor can I, what if she had been sat at temprary traffic lights?
I always go around a park car, hurts to much to ride into one, its clearly the fault of the numpty who rode into the back of the van, don't see why there's so much debate about this.