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Going to have a go so have calculated spoke lengths but cant find them to buy at the correct length, so do I err on the long side or the short side?( only talking about 3mm difference)
3mm is quite a lot. I wouldn't.
Just get the right size, the german shops are your friend.
3mm out is about 2mm too much.
SJS Cycles are good - [url= https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/spokes/120-british-made-14g-stainless-steel-plain-gauge-spokes-12-mm-brass-nipple-pack-of-6/ ]These plain gauge for example in pretty much any length you'll need.[/url]
I've built a few wheels with these spokes, and they're good quality, especially for the price (about £10 a wheel)
A lot of places will do them in 2mm increments, so you'll only ever be 1mm out. If in doubt I'd go 1mm over, rather than under.
And remember to check the nipples that come with the spokes match the ones in your calculation, most work around a 12mm, but CRC supply 14mm which would put you another 2mm out.
[url= http://www.spacycles.co.uk/m2b0s156p1269/SAPIM-Leader ]Sapim Leaders[/url] Also in lots of useful lengths...
2mm change in nipples only changes spoke length by 1mm (don't ask why....it just does)
that cannot be true it has to be 2mm
the threading on 14mm nipples doesn't start in the same relative place from the end of the nipple as it does on 12mm ones so you don't gain the whole 2mm.
ACI double-butted are good value and my choice for general use - plain gauge spokes aren't any stronger, they just have more metal in the middle where it's not needed. Don't bother with things like alloy nipples or super-skinny spokes like DT Revolutions - you just end of with a more flexy wheel that needs more attention.
Or you can get custom cut double butted Sapim spokes from [url= http://www.ryanbuildswheels.co.uk/products/spoke-sales/ ]Ryan Builds Wheels[/url] and his eBay shop [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ryanbuildswheels ]here.[/url]
plain gauge spokes aren't any stronger, they just have more metal in the middle where it's not needed. Don't bother with things like alloy nipples or super-skinny spokes like DT Revolutions - you just end of with a [s]more flexy wheel that needs more attention[/s][b]even less material where it isn't needed[/b].
They're fine for road bikes, and I'm 105kg and manage with 24/28 spokes.
PG according to some ends up less strong- kind of like earthquake proofing buildings, the stiffer they are the less survivable they are, supposedly stretchier spokes ride out impacts better. No clue whatsoever if this is true, I just like it.