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Don't change much. Same bikes, same tyres, same trails. Rain, mud, snow and frost. Like I tell the girls its all character building.

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Posted : 25/11/2019 9:09 pm
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Embrace the filth.


 
Posted : 25/11/2019 10:03 pm
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I normally revert to hard tail at the weekends and zwift, however, for the first year I have a winter road bike with mudguards so I’m now able to carry on through the cold and damp winter on the roadie. Trying to slowly equip my roadie winter wardrobe is challenging though because my budget is tight. I’m aiming to hit 5k miles by the end of the year so I’m currently stuck trying to average 114 miles a week which is getting a bit much but I’m stubborn sod. So my pattern is Monday zwift, Tuesday squash, Wednesday outdoors if I can or zwift again if it’s too gross, zwift either Thursday or Friday depending on what’s going on with my life. Then Saturday and Sunday it’s one day roadie and one day mtb depending on the rain, if it’s raining I prefer mtb. It also helps this year as I just got a new full sus so I’m keen to ride it as much as I can. I also think being able to carry on riding in the winter slop makes you a better rider in the dry weather so I keep going. It’s only mud, just more faff to clean off.


 
Posted : 25/11/2019 10:07 pm
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Sideways MTBing! Used to be more on the hardtail, now that’s more the summer bike and the ebike is more fun in the filth!


 
Posted : 25/11/2019 10:56 pm
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I stick some gears and mudguards on the rigid mtb and carry on regardless. The full sus gets occasional outings when its dry enough not to kill me on a slippy berm.

Other than that a roller session and a run to keep me out of trouble (and to counteract the increased whisky and mince pie intake).

I was riding Peaslake last Friday eve and I seriously questioned why anyone would want to do this as a sport! But then mucking about on the new Swinley Summit skills park on Saturday reminded me! This is my 25th winter riding the slop.

You'd think I'd learn...


 
Posted : 25/11/2019 10:57 pm
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Can’t be arsed with all the cleaning that goes with winter riding. My kitchen and hallway are still covered in muddy stuff from Saturday. Maybe get out a few times, but I mostly stick to commuting.


 
Posted : 25/11/2019 11:13 pm
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Oooops!

Add "building new CX/Gravel bike from parts including handbuilt wheels" to my winter strategy now!

Was waiting for new bike to work scheme to start, but was just not happy with any of the off the shelf bikes that I could afford, all had one fatal flaw which ruled them out, so am going custom.

Kinesis CX1 frame, carbon forks, Avid Shorty Ultimates, Pacenti rims on DT 350s, Praxis sub-compact chainset, 105 gears except for Ultegra GX derailleur.

Should keep me out of trouble while back heals 🙂


 
Posted : 25/11/2019 11:23 pm
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absolutely nothing changes all year, except what im wearing.

i have no interest in anything other than riding mtb.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 8:24 am
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I'm trying but life is getting in the way of the outdoors stuff at the moment, well that and the constant rain. I don't mind the mud, but i don't want to just ride constantly in rain. This weekend may be FoD for the little fodders race, but my 11 year old is struggling with lurgy, so maybe not.

If he's not playing, then i'll deffo be riding outside, if he is, then of course i'll be there too.

But it's not nearly as common/often as i'd like ideally.

Zwift of course is getting a hammering.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 8:30 am
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I'm supposed to ride for a few hours Saturday but it's going to be 1 degree at 8am, likely not worth the risk on the roads , so it'll be zwift o clock.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 8:35 am
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usually business as normal, a Sunday ride, one or 2 evening rides, combination of mtb, gravel, road, depending on the conditions. Also 3-4k in the pool most weeks.

Bit different this time as smashed my shoulder 5 weeks ago and going for reconstruction later this week. I have ordered a turbo - i hated the last one I had 15 years ago, but needs must, so will be that, combined with as much walking round nearby windfarm as I can fit it. I suspect my days of knocking out 2k front crawl in the pool may be over..


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 9:32 am
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Do you don full winter gear, grab the MTB and give two fingers to the mud/slop/rain/cold, and enjoy the hilarity of sliding everywhere on wet roots, rocks and mud in the knowledge that come spring you’ll be a better rider thanks to it?

Or do you break out the knobbies on the gravel bike and stick to fire roads/gravel/b roads, trying to stay away from the worst of the mud?

Or, do you surrender completely and spend the next 4 months holed up on zwift in a warm, dry room?

Option 4 mostly when it's this bad - comfy road bike with fat tyres, good guards and decent lights. HRM on and mostly Z2 pace, 3-6hr rides. It's good outside time, I enjoy it, even when it's raining it's not to bad for a couple of hours. SS rigid 29er comes out for shorter rides locally, happily longer if it's not a quagmire - wet, filthy and back for a shower and a brew.
So, base miles for spring long-ride fitness and a SS for the more intensive rides w/o maintenance faff.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 9:37 am
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Used to live in a house with hot and cold outside taps, large concrete area and proper big drain - that made all the difference for winter riding.

Getting on a bit now, so not so keen to get wet and muddy and lack of above facilities has impacted. Still get the single speed sorted and once out, on single track and bridleways, I always enjoy it. But full sus is put away and tend not to ride DH/tech in these conditions. We avoid the road riding in winter, bit nasty, too mucky, cold and dim light etc..


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 10:13 am
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Well, I have half studded winter tyres on the commuter now and lights are permanently attached, so that part is ready for winter, but I have yet to decide what to do about 'pleasure' biking over the next four months.

The stumpy needs a new rear tyre that actually has a bit more grip and does not cry sealant juice over the floor, which means another fight with tubeless. If that works, then there should be no issue with running it as it is all winter. Apart from the severe cold (-15 to -25) and the lack of light (basically from 1500hrs onwards it is pretty dark). If I can get to the local trails, it should be fun, but they will have zero traffic, so I may need to clear the flow track myself.

No zwift, but a turbo is tempting now I have the rear wheel on the road bike fixed.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 10:36 am
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Trainer road for a month or so, the xc ski until the trails defrost sometime in may

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Posted : 26/11/2019 10:40 am
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Switch to hardtail predominantly, add mud tyres (made a massive difference to my enjoyment), add mudguard and carry on riding 2-3 times a week. Whilst happy to do this I detest for some reason, road riding in the wet/grimy/gritty weather so the miles accumulated really slows this time of year.

Try to jog round wet fields once a week too but that is v intermittent. Need to add some core exercises into the mix as feel I'm weakening in that respect.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 10:47 am
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I just carry on regardless. although I do tend to ride offroad more in winter. it feels easier on my fubar body.
a winter touring is awesome. got one planned for over xmas. lots of pub/café action.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 10:49 am
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Mudguards on, lights always on charge, same tyres its always a bit muddy here if its not it soon will be. Some trails are avoided, rides are maybe a bit shorter. By February I'm a bit sick of it though...


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:00 am
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Trainer road for a month or so, the xc ski until the trails defrost sometime in may

[pic of a proper winter]

See I'd much rather have that sort of winter, a proper "off-season", not the "winter" we get down here in the south east. It was great when I used to commute year round on the motorbike, only a day or 2 of snow and rarely any days below freezing.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:12 am
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Obviously the mid-week dash-out-for-a-quick-hour rides you can do in the summer get canned,

Thats usually the last thing I drop.

If its miserable then 5 hours of clubrun might be beyond my motivation levels, or a long slog in the mud but I can usually drag myself out of the house for an hour in the evening to avoid im a celebrity come ice dancing with me.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:13 am
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for local riding nothing changes. I've got country lanes or an urban, country park, cheeky , road, singletrack route that's fine in the wet. Going to be doing them in the dark soon which I enjoy more.

Further afield I avoid aston hill in the winter for dh but still go to chicksands and am hoping to try Woburn soon, both good in the wet.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:22 am
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Currently the same as my summer strategy, which is largely based around having 3 kids including one very young one

Ride to work for my base fitness. On the weekends ride the cargo bike to run errands and take the kids to school. None of it is 'fun' but it's all fun! Would rather be out for a local MTB ride but no time for that at the moment.

Managing around 100 miles a week at the moment but that's all utility cycling, rather than 'going for a ride'. Could be worse I suppose


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:27 am
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The extra clothing cleaning is annoying but I mostly ignore the bike bar keeping the drivetrain and stanchions all happy. I find one of the joys of winter is that everything happens in slow motion in the mud, drifting is easier and when it goes wrong the crashes hurt far less.

Sometimes the wet roots and logs can be a bit of a nightmare, as can the steepest trails. So I can’t back off and chill like in the dry but conversely it’s easier to ride on the ragged edge.

I wouldn’t ride on roads (bar essential commuting) or turbos if you paid me.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:43 am
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After last winter of riding all the way through the winter with my boys we've not ventured out for about 2 months, local stuff is literally under water (there are new ponds where there were not ponds before) and I shudder to think how bad the likes of Cannock, Pines and Peaks are. Cleaning 3 bikes for an hour in the cold and wet after riding in the cold and wet for 3 hours.

I don't seem to be able to generate the mojo to get out on the Grrrrravel bike, maybe this weekend???!!

I have been staying sane with lifting weights, walking the dog ever longer distances, NFL Gamepass and a BT Sport subscription.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:46 am
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Get rid of my current vile cold.

Get new 'winter' hardtail (Stanton Sherpa) built up

Ride it in whatever rubbish weather the Bleak Peak has to offer


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 11:57 am
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Big mudguard on the front. Shorty on the front of the xc/trailbike, assegai on the big bike. Carry on riding, good fun sliding about.

Managed to kill two reverbs since september. Scored the back of the shafts, guessing mud ingress as the seals have started to fail. One has done 5000miles, the other 4500miles, neither had a full service in their lifetime.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 12:00 pm
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Shorter rides and mainly on the road. Mudguards and lights all the way. Most of the trails are best avoided, and i'm not a fan of slow-motion mud plugging on the trails I have round here. I'm also not a fan of increasing erosion for the sake of it. Road riding is mainly on back lanes and a few gravel tracks, these are usually fairly filthy and flooded so it kinda feels like off road. Utility biking around town and to the train station most days, which i enjoy. Mix it up with swimming or a run, and more walking than i'd do in summer. Oh, and going for a short cycling break in Tenerife in February, that'll help!


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 12:15 pm
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Extended commuting mainly.

160-200km per week in all weathers (except ice). I know they say "there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad gear", but no gear reduces the pain of a massive headwind.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 2:17 pm
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but no gear reduces the pain of a massive headwind.

Conversely I had a lovely ride last night, by chance picked an outbound route sheltered by the trees and a return leg on the flood plain. Withe the fixed gear it actually felt like someone was pushing my feet round for me on the way back!


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 2:21 pm
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Bought some riding trousers. Loving it.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 2:43 pm
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Just bought some bib shorts (first ever pair) and some knee length sealskinz socks, that should keep out the rain/mud where I'd have gaps between my shorts/top and socks/kneepads.

Still very tempted by a dirtsuit but it'll have to wait until the new year.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 3:14 pm
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Accept the weather for what it is and if necessary, use as an excuse for a new bike - ideally rigid single-speed.

Take bike out of shed, ride, get muddy, put bike in shed, repeat as necessary.

Also helps to realise that in less than a month its the shortest day, then its just a case of counting down to summer.

And of course its a great time for planning next year's biking trip.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 3:34 pm
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Up until this year I was out riding in all weathers with the odd turbo session, coupled with CX racing - but not done much of that in 2017/18 and 2018/19, the former due to injury and the latter due to taking a break after Euro & World 24hr Solo Champs escapades, but this year it's been a concentrated effort of serious turbo / Zwift trainer sessions, a full regional CX race programme (which runs until the end of January) and when the weather is more than half decent actually ride outside.

Plus the odd ride, again when the weather is more than half decent, out with my two eldest for an hour or so.

I know there are those completely against the whole indoor thing and the "just put some winter riding gear on and get out brigade" but to be frank, unless it's a CX race weekend I really can't be bothered getting filthy, wet & cold all just to ride outside.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 4:20 pm
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I know there are those completely against the whole indoor thing and the “just put some winter riding gear on and get out brigade” but to be frank, unless it’s a CX race weekend I really can’t be bothered getting filthy, wet & cold all just to ride outside.

And to be fair, the endorphin rush of a really good workout, the sort you can never really get out doors, is reason enough for a bit of time on the turbo, I've been out injured for a while and actually and properly miss a session in our cold damp garage with the headphones and the turbo!

The naysayers should give it a shot, basic turbos are ten-a-penny second hand now, a bit of experimenting is all it takes to figure out your 'zones' and the GCN videos are good enough that you'll feel genuinely pleased when you reach the snowline on your chosen climb, even if it's just a video on your 17" laptop screen!

[/pining for turbo]


 
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Cycling tends to be reduced to commuting and the odd road ride when the weather is sunny and clear.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 4:49 pm
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And to be fair, the endorphin rush of a really good workout, the sort you can never really get out doors, is reason enough for a bit of time on the turbo, I’ve been out injured for a while and actually and properly miss a session in our cold damp garage with the headphones and the turbo!

The naysayers should give it a shot, basic turbos are ten-a-penny second hand now, a bit of experimenting is all it takes to figure out your ‘zones’ and the GCN videos are good enough that you’ll feel genuinely pleased when you reach the snowline on your chosen climb, even if it’s just a video on your 17″ laptop screen!

You are wrong.

The turbo's never going to replicate the sense of smug self satisfaction when STRAVA pings to say ride upload complete and you see all your mates have been sat in the garage staring at the PC when all it's taken you to defeat the drizzle was a bit of MTFU and a softshell jacket.

Also:
Bike handling, you spend all summer dreaming of drifty corners, then get all goldilocks when they get too drifty!
Spotting owls, deer, badgers, foxes etc
The pub, when was the last time you went to a pub of cafe after a Zwift ride?
The fear of werewolves

All good reasons to go for a real night ride.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 5:47 pm
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Also, doggers.

Disturbing doggers with a big old MTB spotlight is very satisfying.

'she'll catch her death in that in these temperatures'


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 5:54 pm
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Bike handling, you spend all summer dreaming of drifty corners, then get all goldilocks when they get too drifty!

This.  I re-discovered sliding about with rollingdonut 2 years ago and have been/will be ever since.  You can really tell in the drier months a rider who hasn't been sliding around all winter.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 5:57 pm
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I've really done it the wrong way round this year. XC singlespeed just been relegated by the arrival of a new dream bike (with all the bells and whistles), just as the weather and conditions are getting proper horrible and it's always dark.

Decent CX season so far, going well in the Scottish series and had my ass handed to me at a couple of National Trophy rounds, on the back of very little summer racing and zero planned training. Planning on racing nothing in December beyond track league, will be out for nice rides instead, catch up with friends.

After the new year, there's a couple of CX races I want to do, then there'll be XC coaching weekends, then race series organisation cranking up in earnest up til March.

I'm always tempted to dive into zwift etc but I usually manage to tick over OK during the winter (commuting helps) and with no big race goals on the horizon I'm not sure what I'd really get out of it.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 6:00 pm
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Crash - damage ribs - hide ‘till January.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 6:06 pm
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I’ve really done it the wrong way round this year. XC singlespeed just been relegated by the arrival of a new dream bike (with all the bells and whistles), just as the weather and conditions are getting proper horrible and it’s always dark.

I've done this too, new dream FS bike and I've done less than 50 miles on it since the end of September...

Will definitely look at getting a decent front light, there's a local group evening ride and I can also do some more mellow stuff on my own of an evening.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 6:34 pm
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I'm local to you I believe.

I am loving sliding around BBH, Blean etc at the moment.

Will pull back a bit on certain sections as things get worse but will be out all winter.

Done Bedge a couple of times in the last fortnight, running ok and quite good fun when pushing on.

I also do a bit of mixed riding on a fully rigid, lanes, trails and bridleways.

Have lights too so night ride once a week.

Best bit of kit is my winter boots with neoprene off cuts from a wet suit to stop ingress from the top.... brilliant.

Knowing your local area and adjusting according to conditions is key for me.

Might see you out on the trails at some point.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 9:31 pm
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I’m just about to dig a burrow, line it with straw, eat my own body weight in roast potatoes and retire till the spring. Night night.


 
Posted : 26/11/2019 9:50 pm
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Yep, this was the result of a single Bedgebury lap a few weeks ago... good fun, and good for an hour or so even in horrible conditions.

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There's loads of trails on BBH and around there but I find they're mostly off-camber and rooty and just are not fun when it's wet. If the killer roots don't get you, the ice-rink chalk underneath will!!

As you say, it's knowing where to avoid based on the weather that's key round here.


 
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Welcome back to Kent MBnut .


 
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