Recently bought a set of 20/24h hubs off of Ebay. They're the generic ones that come up pretty light. Had planned to build them up on a set of Planet X 20mm rims but I need a set of SS wheels for my fixie for winter so figured I may as well use these. Also, having taken advice (cheers Al), the Planet x rims aren't that easy to build and this will be my first proper wheel build so I need all the help I can get.
So rather than the 20mm's, anyone got any suggestions for cheap and light rims (either tubs or clincher)?
im running Velocity a23's 20/24 and they are not stiff enough, higher spoke count needed.
(very comfy though!)
im running Velocity a23's 20/24 and they are not stiff enough, higher spoke count needed.(very comfy though!)
How heavy are you? Thinking of building something similar but I'm a rather anorexic 135lbs so I'm thinking it will be ok for me?
i am 9st 12lbs, they are not stiff enough
got them done by strada with CX-rays so they are a good build but i have to run my brakes further out than i would like to stop contact and the bike can feel a bit fuzzy responding to in puts downhill
http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/shop/velocity-a23-wheelset/
running strada hubs and 20/24
one of my most costly buying 'mistakes' 🙁
(they are 1400g, fast and very comfy though!)
By the look of it, this might answer my question then. With those hubs, maybe a fairly deep carbon rim is the only way to stop them flexing (I'm heavier than both of you, probably at the same time)
Wanted a tubeless compatible rim though. I looked at the alphas and I am put off by there cost and the fact they do seem to suffer from flex. I know these are addressed in the newer versions but still they are still very expensive.
Looking for similar rims myself
Kinlin XR-300/Halo Mercury/IRD Cadence [all the same apparently] seem to fit the bill
Looking for similar rims myselfKinlin XR-300/Halo Mercury/IRD Cadence [all the same apparently] seem to fit the bill
Can't seem to find any info on them being tubeless compatible? Bought some tubeless tyres ages ago but haven't got round to building a pair of wheels yet.
Can't seem to find any info on them being tubeless compatible?
Sorry, I was relying to the OP
lighter rims are harder to build.
lower spoke counts are harder to build.
thinner spokes (I assume you're not goint to be using champion spokes) are harder to build.
your first few wheels are not going to be that good.so I'd practice on something easy,cheap and with a bit or margin.
32hmavicrimshimanohub.
a 20/24 rim is going to be a light rim,unless it's very deep profile.not cheap in any case.
I've built a fair number of wheels in the past few years(18-20 I think).I'd not start at the top.
to use the high end shit,you must first know a bit (nsmb)
just my advice.
Sound advice, much appreciated!
What emmanuel said, you are starting off with the wrong hubs for a workhorse/functional build, though:
titusrider - Memberi am 9st 12lbs, they are not stiff enough
got them done by strada with CX-rays
low spoke count & lightish rims = flex, I expect the PX rims are actually pretty stiff.
Its a fair call - however there is a reason behind this in that I'm down to do a couple of hillclimbs this winter that I want to use the fixie for (well, as a SS). They won't spend all winter on there, eventually they'll migrate to the road bike for racing on
it's actually emmmmmmmanuel.
fairwheel bikes had a great review of wheels not long ago.
their review of hubs was great as well.
get tub rims then,you'll save a lot of weight.
i've got road tubeless and it's nice,but I'm not sure I'd buy into it again.
tubs:
ambrosio crono rims are wicked light, and cheap.starbike.
I'd go 28h tub rims, rev spokes,whatever decent hubs.
light hubs are nice,but tyres and rims are where you should be saving weight.esp for going up
To be fair, the first thing on those Velocity rims is "all day comfy", that doesn't say stiff to me!
Competitions would build up stiffer than Revs/CX-Rays/Aerolites, easier to build with too.
don't go with rev spokes Flagemeister. they are stretchy spokes which when combined with tubular rims make a nightmare wheelset.
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/spokes-tied-and-soldered ]I'd suggest this...but it's too nice a day to sit in front of a computer,so click here while I go for a ride.[/url]
high flange hubs make stiffer wheels.some cheapish ones about.could try them.
and it was roues artisanales that had the wheel review,fairwheel bikes did the hub review.
[url= http://yarchive.net/bike/tying-and-soldering.html ]Jobst Brandt's views on tieing and soldering[/url]
I just don't buy what Jobst says...in that article he claims that crossed spokes wear into each other at their junction:
"repeatedly make and break welds by fretting micro motions, eroding the metal so that the crossing spokes nest into each other in a [u]practically motionless[/u] junction"
How has he established that it's "pratically motionless" and, more worryingly, why would that imply:
"That being the case, it was apparent that tying and soldering could not affect wheel stiffness because [u]there is no motion[/u] to be restrained at this point"
It seems to me that any wear at the crossing point is most likely to be caused by motion and abrasion.
I can wholly recommend the Kinlin xr 300, brilliant rims that build into a stiff but lightish wheelset.