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[Closed] What money no option steel 29er hard tail?

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Toying with the idea of an Indy Fab steel deluxe but what else is out there. Not necessarily custom build but like the Cotic Solaris for example.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 10:52 am
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^^ There should be laws against posting such openly pornographic pictures on an open forum! ^^


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 10:57 am
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Hmm - that Ritchey......


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 10:58 am
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I really like my Swift, there are changes I'd make if going custom*, but it ticks most boxes and looks good.

*My arms still sorefrom breaking it, which may be influencing my rearward weight bias preferances in this brain fart. Top tube length off a large, slackened head angle, shorter stem (so the same cockpit length, longer front center, comparable steering). Shorten the fork as it wouldn't be suspension corrected and drop the headtube/top tube accordlingly. Shorten the seatstays to keep the wheelbase, and probbaly go for a 73mm BB to help this. But I'd like to try it with just the front changed first to see what effect it had. But then it's no wheelie monster at the moment so shorter stays can't do any harm. Little things like internal brake routing and a dropper post too.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:00 am
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I have talked myself out of a swift because of the weight. The Ritchey is definitely a contender.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:02 am
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cielo


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:03 am
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that Ritchey is lovely.
but i would go for a inglis or a retrotech or a shand or a vicious.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:06 am
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I have talked myself out of a swift because of the weight. The Ritchey is definitely a contender.

It's not light, but there's not much you can do to make a steel 29er lighter without spending a lot more money. I considdered upgrading it to something in 853 or similar, but the extra £400+ that would cost would buy bigger weight savings in components and I'd not want any less stiffness.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:09 am
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IF, no question.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:13 am
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The Engima for me:
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Posted : 16/04/2012 11:20 am
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I could get an IF for the cost of the Enigma....


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:22 am
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But why would you want to? I've yet to see an attractive IF.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:23 am
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Druid:
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Posted : 16/04/2012 11:27 am
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DeKerf are doing 29ers now.


 
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soma_rich: Why did you do that? Now I have to find the eye bleach.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:32 am
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I have one of these on my very similar short list:

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Posted : 16/04/2012 11:33 am
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Druid horses for courses. I like bright colours....


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:33 am
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English cycles are very nice too, although I understand it might be a wait to get one made.
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Posted : 16/04/2012 11:36 am
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🙂 Arise...

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/takisawa2/6928680337/ ]IMAG0349[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/takisawa2/ ]pten2106[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:57 am
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Really like the SIR9 but dont want an EBB.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:59 am
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MCR then. 🙂

Soulcraft for me if money were no object.
Loverly.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 12:02 pm
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Ritchey for me - in fact I [s]have![/s]Will have once the damn thing arrives!


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 12:13 pm
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Steel you say? I'd ask [url= http://paulusquiros.co.uk/#/mountain-bike/4556117242 ]Paulus Quiros[/url] for a quote on something beautiful.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 12:14 pm
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AverageMark ....

Have you ridden the Ritchey and are you buying the frame or a build ?

Just curious as its a thing of beauty which I also want ...


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 12:34 pm
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Just buying a frame and moving all the parts across from my Swift to it. Unfortunately there's been a bit of a wait for it, was supposed to be here last month but is now due on the 16th June.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 12:36 pm
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I love my Solaris - it rides great - but for looks the Pace 129 takes some beating. Beautifully built, fillet braised etc. but a bit heavy. The Ritchey would be nice in a less retro colour scheme.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 12:38 pm
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I'd get another bike from Rick Hunter like a shot.

http://www.huntercycles.com

http://www.flickr.com/photos/huntercycles/

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Knock kneed Elvis seatstays. Wishbone stay. Yoke chainstay. Years experience making 29ers.

Off the peg? Kelly RoShamBo.


 
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Why would you give work to an american company (IF)when you could give it to a UK one (Enigma)? Surely just willy waving?

I haven't got anything against IF or any other US builder but Enigma seem to have the skills if not the reputation of IF.

I'm not saying one should buy UK products for the sake of it but when you can get a product of equal quality why not?

Sadly not only have we lost the ability to manufacture (to a large degree) in this country, we've also lost the willingness to support what industry there is.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 1:02 pm
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If I were to buy a British frame it would be from Demon Frame works I really dont like the look of the Enigma.


 
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Well that's fine then, get a Demon. I too have lusted after Indys and a few years ago if I'd been in a position to buy a bespoke 29er I'd have gone US as I didn't think there was the experience of them in the UK. I think that has passed to a degree now and as I said, I'd rather give the money to a UK company.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 1:07 pm
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If I were to buy a British frame it would be from Demon Frame works

😀 Tom is a top guy, local too.


 
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[b][u]bol[/u][/b] - [u]Member[/u]

The Ritchey would be nice in a less retro colour scheme.

Wash your mouth out, Sir! Some things just [i]are[/i]...


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 1:24 pm
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There was a guy at the London Bike Show from Brighton called Chicken who could build you one, he's ex Enigma. I love the Enigma Ego ST, had a test ride last year, rides well, just not digging that 29er though.

The Cielo with Syncros FL forks is a beauty though.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 1:27 pm
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It has to be those colours, it's the law! You'll probably see it before i do anyway unless Alex has it delivered straight to Lowestoft.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 1:27 pm
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one of Jon at Chickens Cycles frames;

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The Ritchey would be nice in a less retro colour scheme.
Wash your mouth out, Sir! Some things just are...

It has to be those colours, it's the law! You'll probably see it before i do anyway unless Alex has it delivered straight to Lowestoft.

I thought that might be a little controversial. 😀

Didn't realise it was you who was getting one from Streetlife Mark. I'm sure it will be lovely.


 
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I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Siren cycles, proper tour divide pedigree...

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And

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http://www.sirenbicycles.com/johnhenry.html


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 7:59 pm
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I'd get Robin Mather to make me something.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 8:18 pm
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Money no object? A UK frame builder, similar to Niner Sir geometry with added bosses n bits...


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 8:28 pm
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Oh, and lumme that Ritchey is nice....


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 8:31 pm
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Money no object? No question - Steve Potts.

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Posted : 16/04/2012 8:44 pm
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This from Longboard spotted at Interbike got me drooling:
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But this, this gets me excited, really excited: Pace 129er
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For me it would have to be something from [url= http://www.bystickel.com/index.php ]By:Stickel[/url]

Lovely job.

Although having said that i am VERY tempted to have a word with John from Chicken Cycles given he's local & i could talk over my requirements over a pint in the pub with him, which of course is important 8)


 
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Just buying a frame and moving all the parts across from my Swift to it. Unfortunately there's been a bit of a wait for it, was supposed to be here last month but is now due on the 16th June.

What is the weight saving do you reckon?


 
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Or any Blackcat


 
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Get your geometry sorted and speak to Ricky Feather.


 
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Surely there's some toe overlap on that there Potts^^

Waiting on my new Curtis 29 arriving any day soon, I'll inform you of frame weight when it's here


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 11:08 pm
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Oooh...that blue Siren up there ^^^ is nice. 🙂

I was really keen on the Pace 129 (till I found out it was about the same weight as my Inbred!!!).
Very pleased with my SIR9 though. Really is lovely.


 
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I have a Pace RC129 which I'm really pleased with. Its beautifully made with real attention to detail. It may not be the lightest steel frame out there but it rides like a much lighter bike if that makes sense, with a seemingly endless urge to accelerate. I can still still remember my first ride on one which took my breath away (literally as happens...). There's a lot more to ride quality and handling than frame weight alone.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 8:33 am
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Money no object - talk Roberts into doing a 29er Dogs Bolx in the original black and white!!


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 8:47 am
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Should be over a pound i reckon. Love my Swift but i'm not a fan of it once Sus is fitted.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 9:26 am
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For the Richey lovers,I know where there's a 19" for sale.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 9:39 am
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Where? how much and what condition? mines 2 months away so ....


 
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Love my Swift but i'm not a fan of it once Sus is fitted.

It's great with a supension fork! 🙂


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 9:46 am
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I would like a Roberts or Mathers but the waiting lists are ridiculous!

Its going to be next year before I decide what I want and how I will build it but it will be a skinny steel 29er geared with suspension.

Ritchey looks beutiful. I like the Siren apart from the bent top tube.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 10:08 am
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It's great with a supension fork!

I find it a little to lazy. Loved it with a set of DT Swiss rigids on though.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 10:12 am
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I'd be looking at Shand as they are local to me.

http://www.shandcycles.com/frames/custom/

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Posted : 17/04/2012 10:26 am
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AverageMark....Its brand new and look at my profile 😉


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 2:47 pm
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The Shand guys are really nice, chatted with them for ages at bristolbespoked. If I had the cash/need i would splash it their way. I do have a Niner mcr and its lush, just out now!


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:27 pm
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For sale:
Pace RC 129
http://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/1047633/

Price is reduced to £500 incl. shipping

simon.myspace@gmail.com


 
Posted : 22/04/2012 4:35 pm
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New Curtis has arrived, should be built up for later this week.
Frame weight of 4.56lbs.


 
Posted : 23/04/2012 8:25 pm
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Candodavid - that has to be the nicest thing I've seen on here for some time. Is that going to be a standard Curtis offering?


 
Posted : 23/04/2012 8:34 pm
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It will be standard if you ask, or custom if you want.
This one is 853 with 725 stays


 
Posted : 23/04/2012 8:37 pm
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Thats stunning Candodavid, how much for that spec if you dont mind me asking?


 
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I worked alongside Gay and Brian so had a good deal on it, I wouldn't like to say actual cost due to Mrs C reading STW now and then


 
Posted : 23/04/2012 8:45 pm