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Nothing new there though is there.
Usual parochial and provincial outlook from the London / Westminster crowd
Yes.
And?
Deal with it, girlfriend...
I'm going out now bye.
how does a post about how to design a good xc course come down to a whinge fest?
typical STW and typical scots vs english. grow up ladies behind the keyboards!
good point well presented - apologies.
it wasnt really aimed at you TJ... 🙂
I know this is a bit of a pointless argument, although I do have one question.
Will us mere mortals get a chance to show how crap we are on the Olympic course, or is it just reserved for the XC machines?
If it's the latter, then who really cares 😀
So, I understand there was a topic, once upon a time.
From a racer's point of view, how was the fort william route rated? I've raced parts of it in my guise as "incredibly s*** XC racer" and it seemed decent- horrible climbs, interesting if not very techy descents. In terms of difficulty it doesn't seem that different from the olympic course in fact. Don't know if Nessie was used as part of the world cup route though or if there was other professional-level stuff removed to protect the knobbers. Though it's not wide, and passing on the descents needs a little work.
But looking at the Olympic route, there's a couple of bits that I'd not be too glad ride on something with racy angles, skinny tyres, and a seat up my bum. Looking at those bits from a trail riders point of view, with a ton of grip and a dropped seatpost, they look fun. But I've never really understood why they get so much slagging. There's a gap jump FFS, none of that at FW and I don't think there's any at Dalby either?
No it's not a mountain. I suppose FW's course is [i]on[/i] a mountain but it doesn't go high up it, I think the highest point is 300 metres.
deja vu ?
It's not about how hard it is to ride, it's about the actual race. In the same way as Mt Ventoux is just smooth tarmac...
At least they teach people how to spell outside of London...
Oi, I was bringed up proper, none of that Wales-shire teachering. 🙂
As for invoving the MTB community, who designed the course? Martyn Salt? obviously never designed an mtb course in his life....
Martyn didn't design the course, he is in charge of running the event though and I can't think of a better person for the job.
Phil Saxena designed/built the course.
Mtbmatt, NO, i definitely did not design or build the track at Hadleigh!!! Where did you get that info?
I Really don't get most of you lot!
To Answear the OP qustion; what makes a good world class XC Course,
Fort Bill (inc a world cup DH course as well)
Dalby
Plymouth
(nice spread across the counrty!)
[/b]Now can anyone tell me if there is there any other country that have [b]3 world cup courses that Jo Bloogs can go and ride? (ok Plymouth is only when there is a race on)
And now the UK has got a Olympic MTB course! (the event is a one off and TOTALLY diff type of event to world cup racing so the venue has to be to a differnt standard/aims)
Why moan and bitch when we got all this AND pleanty of good trail centers and natrual places to ride, to keep every happy!