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Weighed yesterday out of curiousity 32 lbs flat (digital scales). Could replace cranks, cassete and a few other little bits to lighten...... but it has been built for durability and budget rather than lightness.
LOL trying to decide now if to spend £150 on a lighter drive train or lose the 6lb I put on over Christmas.
All relative some times.
I laugh when these 20pd bikes turn up.We all take it with a pinch of salt.Getting a fully under 24 pd and a hardtail under 22 only occurs is in the land of dreams and if it did occur how long do u think the bike would last.Its hard enough getting a singlespeed ultra light and they have the benefit of no gears.
Laughing at your own ignorance? My 21.5lb susser is a very genuine weight on an accurate digital scale. Plenty out there lighter than that too - though mine is a robust build designed to cope with real riding unlike some of those - maybe not for going off big drops or taking lots of air, but then that's not the sort of riding I do (judging from recent threads on here, neither is it what lot of serious riders do). Your ignorance is summed up by your comments about getting singlespeeds ultralight, when there's not actually a huge amount of weight in a geared drivetrain compared to the weight of lots of other bits on the bike.
The lighter bike simply refused to hold traction and was bouncing all over the trail whereas the heavier one, despite using suspension front and rear, was able to dig in and climb.
You don't think that maybe it's the suspension which is actually helping the heavier bike? I certainly don't use the lockouts on mine when climbing off-road.
Yeti575 - Pace RC41's, Mavic 819's on Pro 2's X9 with XT cranks - 26lb
456 - Black forks and general parts bin spec - 30lb
Both only weighed on bathroom scales so weights are approximate. 575 always feels shockingly light when I ride it after riding the 456 for a while, but some of the sprightlyness is probably down to the lighter wheels and lighter tyres (standard Nobby Nics run tubeless with latex).
Epiphany, all XT, Pike, Crossmax STs tubeless, flats, 29.5lbs
R3SL, DA, Reynolds UL46, 14.5lbs
Rat bike, GOK
(judging from recent threads on here, neither is it what lot of serious riders do) from aracer.......
Taking air or doing jumps isn't for serious riders???? What? Thats a bizarre comment to make. I'm deadly serious about my riding and i love jumps/Air time!Don't dimiss something just because you may not be good at it or don't like it.
I did the Kona Mash-up and there were a HUGE variety of bikes being used, The Enduro race was won by a 4" bike but Rowan Sorrell came 9th approx. on his Orange 5 (and won the Technical on the same bike)
My Orange 5 weighs in around 30lbs. It tackles every thing i put in front of it. When bikes start getting towards either end of the weight scale they ultimately will become comprimised one way or the other, although rider skill helps.
ON the subject of heavier bikes being better for climbing; I can confirm that my Ti hardtail hardly ever loses traction on steep, loose ground when it's fitted with panniers and carrying my camping gear. It just digs in deep and my legs will give out first 🙂
Oh and Daffy - I'm still stunned at the weight of your Lucky Strike. If you ever strip it down to the frame, could you weigh that separately? It's not that I don't believe you, I just want to compare it to my Lancaster copy (1,629g).
my Orange subzero clocks in at about 31lbs as its built up with 'zocchi 66's and Mavic 823'a, if I were to swap them over for something lighter it would come in waaaay lighter, but then thats not what I want, I find that about 31-32lbs is about spot on, it feels planted when heading downwards, over stuff and under braking and its not too much of a ball ache on the ups. I also know that its not going to send me rockwards in a puff of cancer causing nanotubes and snake oil! 😀
Personally I'm of the view that (your) mountain bike build is all down to personal preference rather than conforming to an ideal that had been cooked up during a few over enthusiastic (and no doubt elitist) circle jerking sessions? 😀
but then I also think racing is silly. yes I'm an idiot.
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Singlespeeded? That must make [i]some[/i] difference. NO pedals. Same XTR brakes / C-TYpe forks as me too. Mine is 20.7lbs with pedals, XTR cranks and DRs...grrrr!
Raceface bars, Masterpiece seatpost and carbon stem. Tubelessed? Conti Speedking Supersonics - that's where alot of weight is saved.
Boone Ti cog on the rear is 26g - cassette is what 240g for an XTR?
XTR rear mech 260g
XTR front mech 150g
Extra rings and bolts maybe 100g
you're already 750g over my weight. Assuming you have tyres at say 500g and a tube at 200g. That's almost double what my rolling stuff weighs at 357g per end.
So, by my calculations 1450g heavier. There's your 3.5 lbs
Cassette - 222g
Front Mech - 128g
Rear Mech - 197g
You're right about tyres/tubes. That's 650g right there.
I don't have a MTB, but i do have a 13.6lbs road bike, and a 32lbs road bike.
My On-one scandal (18") with all XT drive and brakes, mavic wheels, reba forks, On-one bars/stem and carbon post weighs 27 pounds without pedals using the fishing club match scales. How do you guys get bikes so light weight I know all my kit isnt lightweight stuff but I cant see how I can lose 8 or 9 pounds unless I fill the frame with Helium.
(judging from recent threads on here, neither is it what lot of serious riders do) from aracer.......Taking air or doing jumps isn't for serious riders???? What? Thats a bizarre comment to make.
Try reading what I actually wrote. Just because you and a lot of other riders like doing more extreme stuff, there are plenty of people who don't - not dismissing what you do at all, just suggesting that a lot of riders don't need a massively strong bike.
My Orange 5 weighs in around 30lbs. It tackles every thing i put in front of it. When bikes start getting towards either end of the weight scale they ultimately will become comprimised one way or the other
For what I mainly do with mine (race) a 30lb bike would already be compromised. I'm with NrNutt (even if he does think racing is silly) - get a bike for what you need, don't worry about peer pressure or what anbody else has.
pantsonfire - to get a really light bike you have to take care over every single bit. Easy to drop on a few pounds - just looking at what you mention, there's probably 1/2lb in the forks, 1lb in the wheels, 1lb in the bars/stem/seatpost, 1/2lb in the brakes, 1lb in the drivetrain compared to mine - it all adds up.
Pants on fire - tyres? I have some tyres that are much heavier than others - could be a couple of pounds there
Pants on fire - tyres? I have some tyres that are much heavier than others - could be a couple of pounds there
I am using Maxxis Ignitor folding tyres at the moment sticky one on front slightly cheaper harder wearing one on back. Dont know what they weigh but they feel lighter than the Specialized Fast trak I was using in summer
5" travel ss, 23lbs.
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I just had a look at my solo and the components on it and weighed it again. Its an old skool raleigh titanium. 27lbs with full mudguards and bottle racks. Easy to loose a pound and a bitfrom the fork - as it has a set of pikes on it - I wanted 20mm axle and they were cheap second hand. I have other forks (mxpros) which are more than a pound lighter(but QR) dt5.1 rims are a bit more than I need as well - another bit to lose there if I got lighter rims, tyres are wire bead conti 2.3s.
So in race trim (!!!) with the mxpro on it, and lighter tyres 24 lbs is easily within reach - and thats with the 5.1 rims still.
Bling road bike, Feels very light.
Singlespeed road bike, yup, pretty light.
Nomad, Feels considerably heavier than my road bikes.
No idea of any of the weights of my bikes and to tell you the truth, I don't care either!!!
15.6lbs
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Don't know, don't care.
Over 30lb that's for sure but it does have a Rohloff at one end Magura Odurs and a Son Dyno hub at the other and a steel frame in the middle. It's heavy and I can feel it going uphill but most of the time it's job is as an off road commuter and It's done the last three months with no more than the occasional oiling of the chain. It's also carrying a fair weight of mud as well. So I'm losing a bit of time on the ups but I'm saving a lot more time on cleaning and maintenance. As others have said the weight isn't always that important.
The original post wondered if 30lbs was the limit for an all day bike. My prefered bike is my 2004 S-works Enduro which comes in at up to 32lbs depending on the wheels and tyres I use. I'm not sure what all day riding means really but I'm happy with the Enduro for 40 miles with 1500m + of climbing. Rarely ride further than that but have taken my 23.5 lb Ti hardtail for around 60 miles. That's still a tough enough bike for XC riding with very ordinary wheels and tyres so that could get down to 22lbs I think though does have V brakes.
My other bikes are a Soul that comes in at 28lbs and a SS rigid Inbred that I haven't weighed. Have a Pinnacle CX bike at about 20lbs and an all Ultegra Lemond Chambery that's about 18lbs.
pantsonfire,
wheels/tyres is usually where you can save alot of weight, compared with gears/forks.
my (lighter) hand built race wheels are 1340 grams the pair,
my (heavier) factory built wheels are 1560 the pair, and thats top fulcrum red metal zero's (like mavic slr)
then jumping to factory wheels further down are easily 500g heavier...
plus tubes (another 400g for 2) and tyres is probably a kilo right there, if not more.
what wheels do you run?
Hey Daffy, did you fill your tyres with helium or somethin' ? Love that workstand, never seen one like that before.
Marv
Rocky Mountain etxs70 32lb
Giant Anthem 23lb
Cotic Soul 24lb
By far my fave bike to ride is the rocky mountain
My Marin Rocky ridge hardtail cam out as 26.1 lbs with pedals, on a set of reuben heaton scales (probably one of the best scales). It did cost a fair bit to get it like that though, but it will take whatever its thrown at!
26lbs
Although that is weighed on bathroom scales so is only approximate.
2004 SWORKS HT
XTR Brakes/Cranks/Rear Mech
PRO11s' on WTB Speedisks
Thomson stem & post
Carbon Bars
30lb give or take a little
456, pike airs, crossmax's, heavy stem, xt cranks and deore bits.
light enough, would be nice if it was less, but if i wanted a light bike i wouldn't have got a steel frame with big forks.
Orbea Alma Cup- fluctuates between 10kg and 10.5kg depending on what it's wearing.
*Waits for people to start drilling holes in their stem and cranks again.*
Giant Anthem - 23.47 lbs - 18". Frame size seems to make quite a big difference and I'm sure a lot of manufacturer weights are given for small frame sizes.
sanderson breath,
air revs, sunringle on xt hubs, xt drivechain, maxxis tyres, thomson bits and spoon titanium saddle= 14.02kg. 30.84lb in english.
the frame comes in at 2.2kg, 4.84lb.
my new DB alpine frame is 2.5kg, 5.5lb. swapping everything across but will soon have set of lyriks and slx two ring/bash guard. don't know what it'll weigh (more than sanderson set-up) but doesn't really matter. i'm 70kg so no porker.
got people with 5" trail/freeride(y) bikes that weigh the same as my xc-ish steel framed toy. doesn't bother me.
J
my demo9 wieghs 49lb 😛
Weighted both bikes.
My Kinesis Maxlight comes in at 26lbs - but could be easily down to about 24lbs by running lighter tires/tubes and swapping my time Z-freerides for time atacs from my road bike. Happy with that as I thought it weighted just about that (running Rebas, Bonty Race light wheels and xt/xtr transmission with Louise brakes, and some light/strong but not too bling finishing kit).
I used to own a Giant ATX 880 with Duke XC and some xt drivetrain plus some light finishing kit that was about 22.5-23lbs in total.
My Kinesis Crosslight commuter/road is 24.5lbs BUT thats with fully packed saddle bag (2 tubes, patches, levers and multi tool), full mudguards, all the lights and heavy puncture resistant tires. With light tires and tubes, no excess weight like mudguards etc would be closer to 20-20.5lbs and I think that`s how much it weighted when I first got it before doing it as a commuter.
Jobbyheid, nice photo. I didn't take it by the way, I just Googled for Caddon Bank.
simply_oli_y - Memberits rider, not bike!
If I'm lining up to do something like that, I want to be thinking about getting my speed and my take-off right. I don't want to be thinking about whether Rock Shox will warranty my carbon steerer...
8.5lbs - saves a lot of weight being a zero-speed 🙂
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21.5lbs with Mud X tyres, weighed on the same scales/stand as Daffy's, which IME seems pretty accurate.
SBC Pitch: 30lb (at the moment, its about to get lighter)
Flameboy:28lb (Ti-Rohloff hardtail)
Ti Brompton: 23lb
Weighed on a fishing scale.
Trance, 30lbs.
Nicolai UFO, 42-44lb depending on tyres.
Dialled bikes holeshot around 32lbs.
XL yeti 575, 27.6 lbs
Interesting post, most bike racks are limited to around 15kgs (33Lbs) per bike, so I guess some people are overloading their racks without realising which would make them liable if the racks fails halfway up the motorway.
With my cheapo Fleabay fishing scales that Im assuming are relatively accurate because its not rocket science is it?
The one on the left is about 29.5 and the one on the right is 35ish. Extra points go to who can guess where the photo was taken yesterday. It also shows that I do actually get out and ride my bike occasionally.
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It also shows that I do actually get out and ride my bike occasionally.
Not exactly. You've got 2 bikes without a speck of dirt on either - seems more likely you drove them both there for the photoshoot (or it's right outside your front door) 😈
As a guess my bike (a steel Deluxe hardtail) is about 27 lbs depending on what tyres/ pedals I'm using.
I_Ache, that's the bridge over one of the rivers at Coed Y Brenin?? Can't remember what trail.
My 01 Stumpy FSR weighed ~29lbs on hanging type scales with my arm wobbling.
That was with Lumi twin halogens and endurance battery (which is about 1.5lbs), front and rear Crud guards and Conti Edge winter tyres.
I could easily bring the weight down from the saddle, seatpost, headset, wheels etc. but am not really bothered and can't justify it financially.
Cannondale Rush (aluminium) size large 26lb.
aracer thats a good point but I can assure we had done a couple of miles riding by that point.
stumpy your right its the first bridge on the MBR.
Looks like I have shopped that to make my bike look really bright but thats just how it is. Much better than the grungy 5.
ooh. Like this question because.... Litech frame came in at 3.3lb before it went off for its respray. With my shiny new reba teams, bonty wheels and half decent finishing kit it should come out as a nice comfy chuckable 25ish lb beast 🙂
Kona Kula Deluxe 2007 = 11.9 Kilo's (26.23 lbs) (Small Frame)
There are a few upgrades from standard, but nothing that really changes the weight too much.
my spesh sx (2003) is 31.5 lb fox 36 and some cheap finninsh kit
orange vitt just 20.8 lb
I have an 07 Heckler in large. Annodized (that could make a difference compared to powdercoat) with a set of lyriks (coil u turn), DHX 5 coil with ti spring. XT/X9 kit. Thomson stem and post. Super wide bars and code brakes 8" disls on ex729/hope pro II wheels 2.5 tyres and DH tubes. Weighs in at 30lbs, using [img] 
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pace 405 28.5 lbs wouldnt really want it mush lighter although i could still lose a lot from the wheels maybe go tubeless
Medium Yeti 575 with the carbon seatstays, Revs, XT, Mavic 618's, Bonty Jones ACX and a fair bit of dried on mud: 27.4lbs
My Patriot is 38 lbs with 2.4 maxis advantage tires, lyric coil forks, XT group set and hope wheel brake set, my 456 is 31 lbs with 2.1 conti diesel tires and magura durin fork, magura louise brakes, mixture of X0 and X9 with middleburn cranks and rings. I can survive just as big and long a day on both, unless there is lots of very steep techy climbing, then I last longer on the 456. Which I put down to the differing geometry of both bikes.
However....... considering that my camelback, filled for a long day with tool kit, spare inner tube, 2 or 3 snack bars plus sarnies, pump and shock pump, 2 or 3 litres of water and camera weighs at least 9 lbs, and add my 195 lbs then I feel the difference is moot.
Dialled PA- 29lbs on bathroom scales
Merlin Malt1 singlespeed - 25lbs
I just stripped my Enduro frame in preparation for my alpine arriving figured it would be a good opportunity to weigh everything on the digital kitchen scales so for anyone thats interested, this is what all these bits weigh. Its all pretty good kit and there's not really anywhere I want to go much lighter. (formating doesn't work too well everything is in nice neat columns in the edit window, bah!)
Frame Dialled Bikes Alpine (guess for now) 2500g 5.51lbs
Fork Rock Shox Pike 426 2435 5.37
Headset ??? 200 0.44
Saddle SDG Bel Air Titanium 284 0.63
Seatpost Chromag Minimalist 27.2 x 410 240 0.53
Seat Collar Chromag Brass 80 0.18
Handlebar Sunline V1 277 0.61
Stem Thomson Elite X4 176 0.39
Grips Lock-on with straitline end caps 128 0.28
Pedals DMR V12 Mag 444 0.98
Bottom Bracket Hone 96 0.21
Cranks Hone Non-Drive Side Crank Arm 228 0.50
Cranks Hone Drive Side Crank Arm 395 0.87
Cranks Hone Middle Ring 43 0.09
Cranks Straitline Bash Guard 123 0.27
Cranks 4 Crank Bolts 12 0.03
Chain SRAM PC 971 286 0.63
cassette Shimano XT 295 0.65
Rear Mech SRAM X9 235 0.52
Rear Shifter SRAM X7 200 0.44
front wheel Sun SOS Rim on Spesh Stout 20mm Hub 942 2.08
front tire Maxxis High Roller 2.35 ST 830 1.83
front tube ???? 200 0.44
front rotor Aztec 203mm 200 0.44
rear wheel Sun SOS Rim on Shimano Hub 1150 2.54
rear tire Maxxis High Roller 2.35 ST 830 1.83
rear tube ???? 200 0.44
rear rotor Aztec 203mm 200 0.44
Front Brake Avid Juicy 3 260 0.57
Rear Brake Avid Juicy 3 335 0.74
Whole Bike 13824 30.48
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21 lbs in race mode (717wheels 1.95 tyres etc)
22-23 lbs trail fat tyre mode and hell of a lot more comfortable.
2 separate LBS's weighed it.
Carbon and full XTR.
Did it make a difference? hell no. Did it make me enjoy or go faster? Nope!
What did? me getting fit and losing 20kg of fat from riding my heavy road bike.
Building a 28 lbs heavy old single speed. -It's fun handling frame! If I was really worriefd about weight I'd buy another carbon Zaskar etc.
I'd rather ride a Genesis or Kona Extreme Cro mo just for the ride quality.
So best weight weenie was not to be a fat b&stard. Now I'm a slim b&stard.
Pass me some apple pie-it's my fetish/kryptonite 😈
My "over biked" Nomad 32.5lbs, which seems the same or only slightly heavier than some peoples "under biked" hardtails, hmmm...