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Went out today & turned off the main road onto a BW past a house, sun was in my eyes & heard before I saw, 2 dogs barking & running at me, had a bit of poo come out as they got closer & barking, getting closer! Grabbed the water bottle which was full of Morrissons Orange & Peach still water (local ride so no bladder)& gave the nearest mutt a squirt while the other one tried a pincer movement & came up from behind, it got a squirt also. This was repeated a few times before they decided they didn't like the flavour or I wasn't worth it!
My mate usually grabs a stick or a few rocks in this situation, what do you do?

I also yelled at the top of my voice, 'GET THOSE ******G DOGS IN!'


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 8:57 pm
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Stop and play with them.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 8:59 pm
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Kick to the head. Preferrably the owner, but if needs must the dogs.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 8:59 pm
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Boot. Chops.
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Posted : 01/12/2012 9:00 pm
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Kick.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:01 pm
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You need to use the Crocodile Dundee Hypnotise Buffalo technique.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:11 pm
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MTFU more like.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:11 pm
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Cack myself & shout at them/owner, cycle faster!!


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:12 pm
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Two dogs you say.

This technique would seem like it was designed for that very purpose.

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Posted : 01/12/2012 9:13 pm
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Only playing, don't normally do that, don't like bikes/helmets/whatever.

etc.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:15 pm
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How do you fend off a dangerous dog?
Posted on January 3, 2007 by Jon
The BBC has published a namby-pamby article about what to do if a dog attacks you. They suggest that you put your hands in your pockets and turn away. I prefer the advice [b]Richard Ballantine[/b] gave in his excellent [b]Richard’s Bicycle Book[/b]. He points out that humans are bigger than dogs and thus should be able to win any fight. With big dogs he suggests that you stick your fist down their throat so that they choke. With a whole arm in their mouth they won’t have enough leverage to do much damage. With smaller dogs he says you can quite easily break their sternum by pulling their front legs sharply apart, or with tiny dogs you could wave your bicycle pump around until they grab hold of it with their teeth and then dash their brains out on the pavement.
If you’re a dog lover and are tempted to comment I’d point out that I’m talking here about self-defence against attacking dogs. My youngest daughter has been literally terrified three times in the last two weeks by nasty yappy dogs that jumped up in her face in places where they should have been kept on a lead, in every case the owners acted as though it was her fault and didn’t apologise. Saying that it’s the owners and not the dogs that are to blame is like saying it’s not guns that kill people, but people. In other words, of course a dog can be safely and responsibly owned, it’s just that they frequently aren’t.
I don’t think that dog ownership is sufficiently well regulated and until any dog (or its revolting by-products) can be easily and definitely traced to a specific owner I don’t think that they should be allowed to roam freely in our cities.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:15 pm
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Use it as mental fuel to power up the next climb, or bank the thoughts until you are knackerd for a turbo boost. Some dog owners need shooting. I love a dog but an out of control dog is unacceptable.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:16 pm
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what if it was meowing cat... 😆


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:18 pm
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MTFU more like.

Cos that really helps when you're being attacked, doesn't it?


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Stop and play with them.

Well, if you can't ride away from them it sometimes helps - they might just be a badly behaved dog who just wants to play.

But if attacked with no escape route, then a good kicking is the only solution.

With bigger dogs and/or a pack, I've no idea what you'd do.

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Judging by some recent threads on here and from personal experience, it's pointless trying to reason with the owners - nothing you say will make them believe the attack wasn't your fault.

And I love dogs by the way - I just think irresponsible owners should be prosecuted and dangerous dogs destroyed.


 
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Thanks Rusty spanner just reedited the advice above.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:22 pm
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You need to use the Crocodile Dundee Hypnotise Buffalo technique.

That actually works on my dog, he runs off scared. Mind you, he's also scared of his food bowl if it's left in the wrong place.


 
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You need to use the Crocodile Dundee Hypnotise Buffalo technique.

😆


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:25 pm
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kiss it's teeth when it growls


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:28 pm
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Dogs in barking and running towards you shocker....

Just stop and clap my thigh / encourage them to come towards me. Easier said than done admittedly if you are scared of dogs.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:31 pm
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Dogs in barking and running towards you shocker....

The OP was asking about aggressive dogs, not over exuberant ones.

So what would you do if you were attacked?


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:32 pm
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How do you fend off a dangerous dog?
Posted on January 3, 2007 by Jon
The BBC has published a namby-pamby article about what to do if a dog attacks you. They suggest that you put your hands in your pockets and turn away. I prefer the advice Richard Ballantine gave in his excellent Richard’s Bicycle Book. He points out that humans are bigger than dogs and thus should be able to win any fight. With big dogs he suggests that you stick your fist down their throat so that they choke. With a whole arm in their mouth they won’t have enough leverage to do much damage. With smaller dogs he says you can quite easily break their sternum by pulling their front legs sharply apart, or with tiny dogs you could wave your bicycle pump around until they grab hold of it with their teeth and then dash their brains out on the pavement.
If you’re a dog lover and are tempted to comment I’d point out that I’m talking here about self-defence against attacking dogs. My youngest daughter has been literally terrified three times in the last two weeks by nasty yappy dogs that jumped up in her face in places where they should have been kept on a lead, in every case the owners acted as though it was her fault and didn’t apologise. Saying that it’s the owners and not the dogs that are to blame is like saying it’s not guns that kill people, but people. In other words, of course a dog can be safely and responsibly owned, it’s just that they frequently aren’t.
I don’t think that dog ownership is sufficiently well regulated and until any dog (or its revolting by-products) can be easily and definitely traced to a specific owner I don’t think that they should be allowed to roam freely in our cities.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:33 pm
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If a dog came near me when im out on the bike and got aggressive, i would not hesitate to get off and give it a good kicking.

Simples.

The cycle paths round my local area are littered with dog mess - NOT THE DOGS FAULT I KNOW.....

It is a disgrase! Especially as i use the same paths walking the kids

🙄 ..... Wanders off topic slightly!


 
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Personally I think dogs detect fear. Getting into a flap and shouting is only going to worry the dog. It you keep your cool and keep your arms down with no sudden movements all should be fine.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:42 pm
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I've only ever been in a situation where i though a dog was seriously going to do me some harm once. (very large mastif/ ridgeback looking cross)
At this point Mrs ssstu rode up between me and the dog.
It then proceded to drag it's owner across the floor while trying to bite her bars/ grips/stem.
Mrs ssstu's reaction was to just stop, look at it like it was a daft kitten and in a calm voice ask it what the f**** it though it was doing trying to bite some metal. 😯

The dog seemed to get a bit confused by this and lost interest in the taste of alloy, turn round and look at it's owner lay on the floor and just stand there like a big dope.
I rode off to empty my shorts...


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:43 pm
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With big dogs he suggests that you stick your fist down their throat so that they choke.

This sounds like a goer...


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:46 pm
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Some dogs chase bikes - not because the dog is aggressive and not because the owner is irresponsible.

Stop - get off and make friends with the dog. Seldom do I have a problem. Although farm collies can be quite excitable.

Sometimes just talking to the dog and slowing down is fine.


 
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Personally I think dogs detect fear. Getting into a flap and shouting is only going to worry the dog. It you keep your cool and keep your arms down with no sudden movements all should be fine.

I'm sure that'll cheer up the 210,000 people attacked by dogs every year.
Hospital admissions for serious dog bites have more than doubled over the past decade.

Government figures from the DEFRA site. [url= http://www.defra.gov.uk/news/2012/04/23/clampdown-on-dangerous-dogs/ ]Link.[/url]


 
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Dog ran up to me and bite my ankle about 6 months ago, I tried to kick it but it ran back to the farm where it lived. I knocked on the door of the farm but no answer, I coax the dog over....It got a nice kick to the chops.


 
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You need to challenge the dog. Make yourself appear as large as possible and look it in the eye, make it hold your stare and the chances are it won't.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 9:53 pm
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Dogs will often give chase and bark. Sometimes they look quite intimidating when they do it. But it doesn't mean they're about to chew your face off. Dogs bark and run. That's what they do. Ignore it and plod on.


 
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- get off and make friends with the dog. Seldom do I have a problem. Although farm collies can be quite excitable.

I find your average farm collie to only be interested in barking at moving wheels. 😆

I know some one that lived and worked on a farm.
Her collie used to quite happily get a ride on her bikes petrol tank to the field with the sheep in. When she kicked it off the bike it would spend the first couple of minutes barking at/trying to bite the tyres on her bike. Then it would remember what it's job was and round up the sheep. 😀


 
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I cant believe that nobody has gone for the a) leave them at home, b) the wife isn't that aggresive, c) take them with me, d) let them wander the streets options yet.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 10:01 pm
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Take my earlier (William no mates)advice and get your own dog, make certain it's a decent sized one, like a German Shepherd, Rottweiler, (dont buy a Doberman they are crap) and they will look after any other dog opposition you might face.


 
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You need to challenge the dog. Make yourself appear as large as possible and look it in the eye, make it hold your stare and the chances are it won't.

Rather than 'cumon ave a go if' try looking relaxed and slowly blinking a them, it's dog language for good morning.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 10:05 pm
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I tell them loudly to F*** OFF.
May not actually work but makes me feel better.


 
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I generally stop and get off the bike, they seem to stop then.
Once you get to know them, they're fine.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 10:12 pm
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roger.

I though you liked to tell people to.

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Rather than F*** OFF.


 
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As a postie I come into contact with quite a lot of dogs and you can usually tell pretty quickly if they're going to be vicious or not. I have always challenged the ones that have a go as they generally don't expect it. I had to go mental on a pit bull-esque thing the other week it took about 10 kicks to the head before it started to back down , I was crapping it as I thought it wasn't going to stop.


 
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get your own dog, make certain it's a decent sized one, like a German Shepherd, Rottweiler, (dont buy a Doberman they are crap) and they will look after any other dog opposition you might face.

Don't get a rhodesian ridgeback either... Or at least don't borrow mine she got bitten by a gypo jack Russel the other week and nigh on pood herself.... Also a tip for ya, if the aggressive dog is with a gypo and you're a woman with your name dog with you don't shout 'get the f*ck away from my dog at the attacking dog... The gypps won't like it!

I was bitten by two rottweilers not long ago... The owners famous line was they don't usually bite... Er yeah ok!


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 10:35 pm
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I'm a dog person and have suffered the consequences from winding up my own dogs as well as friends since i was a nipper. I will carry on naturally until I get nipped which is when I will release the fury on the owner. They don't like it when you hold a dog by the scruff of the neck until they appear/respond. Touch wood, I've not had a dog I've been scared of yet. I may change my tune afterwards. The bigger the dog the better I reckon. Terriers and other small rats are the scourge of the trails


 
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I usualy bark back loudly till they calm down. Or with little yappy type things i ride (or run) on so they follow me until they get bored/tired. Never had to kick a dog, think i'd feel quite bad about it if i did. Having said that i once did nudge a poodle off a bridge into a small stream*. I chuckled.

*Don't worry dog lovers it was fine.


 
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I think one of the things is we need to slow down a little when passing dogs. That said if a dog is attacking you ie not investigating, you have every right to defend yourself how you see fit. Personally I would kick it and have done in the past. Weirdly it pisses owners of attacking dogs off when you defend yourself.

Some owners are just idiots though.


 
Posted : 01/12/2012 11:40 pm
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As a point of balance, don't you just love well trained owners though. You know, the ones that quietly call the dog as you approach, point to the side of the trail where the dog immediately goes and sits.

They probably take their dogs eggs home too.


 
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PSA - don't swing your foot wildly at attacking dogs, this may cause you to fall off and be Kujo'd and killed until you are dead. Instead place your toes on the chainstay (being careful not to catch your foot in the chain if the dog is heading at you from your right) and use it as a stable platform to aim a solid kick to the chops. You have not been charged for this service.


 
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@tthew I actually do that but I need to know you are coming, as I mentioned slow down, if a bike hurtles past at speed it doesn't give you time to get your dogs to stay still or come to you and they can walk into your path.

Unfortunately there are not that many owners who give a damn.


 
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