[Closed] Velodrome spoilers....

Chris hoy seem like an all round top bloke.Goes quite quickly too!!!!

A truly Great sportsman,

I don't know if its just my perception, but there seems to be much more happy celebrations of victory all round at these Olympics than I recall in previous ones, rather than the hateful arrogant posturing and pouting.

Oh and I can also add that as well as thinking VP was robbed, the German commentators also think sir Hoy is an all round great guy.

And he cries too. A real man...

Gods, I'm almost in tears here! Well done Sir Chris - and VP and Laura Trott too. Well done.

now it just remains for us to dominate in the BMX and XC..

Incredible. I thought he'd gone far too early. Anyone else would have effectively lead out and got swamped at the end. But not Chris Hoy.

Chris Hoy crying was enough to bring a tear to a glass eye. 😥

Don't ever say third place does not count. Teun celebrated as if he'd won gold!

I remember Chris Hoy was at my Uni Hall of residence during 1st year. We'd roll in smashed at 7am on a saturday morning, and couldn't work out why some lad was going out for a bike ride...

Makes sense now....

🙂

What Gold potential is left.

Reede in the BMX - maybe, a bit unpredictable
Skelton in the Show Jumping- great position
Payne in the 10km Swim marathon- tough race but possible

Outsiders
Dayley in the diving
mens & womens 470 class sailing

That must be it...

So what will the UCI do at the next games to try and prevent GB domination? 😀

That must be it?

Mo Farrah in the 5000m?

oh yes, that's also a pretty good chance. Any more?

edit - apparently indvidual dressage is look great too

Boxing?

What Gold potential is left.

What about :

Farah in 5000 meters
At least 3 of our boxers

edit...beaten to it on both fronts!

There's a few boxers through with guaranteed medals, just don't know the colour.

If they show the highlights of the track again,I will have no tears left.
What a way to finish off.

It was the quivering bottom lip that did it for me..

TOOUNNERD!

Other gold potential? Well, there's the show jumping, boxing (as above), canoeing, BMX, hockey, pentathlon, etc.

Lots, really!

Outsiders
...
mens & womens 470 class sailing

As kind of mentioned above, in the kayak sprint we have Ed McKeever in the K1 who was World Champion a couple of years ago and Heath/Schofield in the K2, who got silver in the world champs. Both crews have won big events this year. A decent chance of at least one gold there.

We're starting to deal in probables and possibles rather than near certainties here, but surely a few of them have to win?

mens bmx ,silver medallist in the worlds iirc ?

Liam Philips got 2nd in the time trial...and then broke his collar bone in the finals.He is MASSIVELY out gunned .Willoughby will smash it but Daudet and Stromberg will push it hard as always.
Shazne Reade will unfortunately fold under the pressure of a tight race again.She is awesomely fast round the track solo...but weak in a race.

I watched the Mears/Pendleton moment in slow mo. It looked to me very like VP came across the sprint line and then KM elbowed her as a consequence of that, not the other way around. Which makes the decision fair and proper.

A shame, but rules is rules.

What Gold potential is left.

We have no quality in xc mtb ,this is the next area of cycling to target for world dominance ,probably need to pinch a couple of fit roadies

I watched the Mears/Pendleton moment in slow mo. It looked to me very like VP came across the sprint line and then KM elbowed her as a consequence of that, not the other way around. Which makes the decision fair and proper.

That's exactly how I saw it too, I have been branded a Pendleton hater for daring to voice that view. Apparently anything than 100% blind support is akin to treason at our house.

mattjg - I think you're talking about the bit that got VP relegated, but the moment that [i]caused[/i] it was just before, on the bend.

VP interview with Linaker just now was very good. Gold and silver round her neck. Can't be bad.

Safe to say that the atmosphere in there tonight was electric. Loads of royals and famous people in there. The noise when Chris and Laura won was just unbelievable.

Also, I got to hold Laura's gold medal. 🙂
Poor Vicky was in bits afterwards. Combination of relief that it was all over, disappointment at "only" getting Silver and the general emotion of the whole place, the standing ovation she got at the end. After the relegation, she lost it a bit mentally which was a real shame to see. Not the way she wanted to go out but still one hell of a career. Best of luck to her in her retirement.

I watched the Mears/Pendleton moment in slow mo. It looked to me very like VP came across the sprint line and then KM elbowed her as a consequence of that, not the other way around. Which makes the decision fair and proper.

Look again - that's certainly not what I'm seeing. Or maybe you're looking at the second time Meares comes down and elbows. I don't know if there's a better video, but looking at 1:38:20 on in this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/live-video/p00w321l
it's clear that Meares is diving down on Pendleton and sticking her elbow in well before Pendleton crosses the line. Meares coming down hard at 1:38:22 and actually turning back up the track at 1:38:23 - Pendleton doesn't cross the line until 1:38:24.

I watched the Mears/Pendleton moment in slow mo. It looked to me very like VP came across the sprint line and then KM elbowed her as a consequence of that, not the other way around. Which makes the decision fair and proper.

A shame, but rules is rules.

3.2.042 During the final sprint, even if launched before the last 200 metres, each rider shall remain in his lane up to the finish, unless he has at least a clear cycle-length lead and shall not make any manoeuvre to prevent the opponent from passing.
(text modified on 1.01.02).
3.2.043 A rider may not challenge or pass on the left an opponent riding in the sprinters’ lane.
If the leading rider leaves the sprinters’ lane and his opponent attempts to pass to his left, he may
not return to that lane unless he still has a clear cycle-length lead.
3.2.044 A rider passing on the right of his opponent, who is in the sprinters’ lane, may not crowd him or cause him suddenly to reduce speed.

So the rules are open to interpretation by a commissar that wants to show who's boss. Mears leans on VP first and has to shift her ass sideways to do so, VP drifts slightly outside the red line on the straight but this has no effect on each rider as they approach the line. On any other day no action would be taken, they both finished thinking that was that and onto round 2.

A great contest ruined by a commissar who has a funny way of interpreting the rules.

That's the first Kierin give watched...is it usual for the winner to lead out for 2 laps or is Hoy just AWESOME?

Just AWESOME!

A great contest ruined by a commissar who has [s]a funny way of interpreting the rules.[/s] something against British cycling

FTFY

So the rules are open to interpretation

I'm not so sure they are. AM quite clearly contravened 3.2.044 before VP crossed the line. The only point of interpretation is whether VP actually contravened 3.2.042, as crossing the line isn't of itself enough, but that should have been irrelevant as AM infringed first. The commissars only action should have been against AM, though given the result they should have just left well alone.

As CL just said, the contest was effectively ended there - VP's head wasn't in it after that.

That's the first Kierin give watched...is it usual for the winner to lead out for 2 laps or is Hoy just AWESOME?

No. I thought he'd lost it when he started his sprint so far out - they're only supposed to sprint for 200m, he was doing 500m (to put it in context, that's much further than Cav sprinted in the TdF stages where everybody was amazed at how far he sprinted for). He was kind of forced to do that though, having got into a bad position when the other rider came past on the right just before the derny peeled off - when I've seen him race before he's always been in a better position going into the last 3 laps. Yes he is just awesome - a 10.3 final 200 off that is quite incredible, clearly he left a little in the tank to accelerate in the last lap.

BTW it seems the UCI are after more track events in Rio and want to bring back the individual pursuit: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-to-request-additional-medals-for-2016-olympic-games

that's much further than Cav sprinted in the TdF stages where everybody was amazed at how far he sprinted for

he went from 500m out on Stage 18 after riding for 130 miles

he went from 500m out on Stage 18 after riding for 130 miles

I've seen that reported before, but if you check out the video it's actually about 300m out he starts - and he's in the wheels for quite a bit of that

mattjg - I think you're talking about the bit that got VP relegated, but the moment that caused it was just before, on the bend.

Didn't see that, will look again thx.

Was gutted watching the VP vs AM sprints... 🙁

You've got to take the rough with the smooth with officials' decisions, but this felt like taking the rough with the rough - quite a few other infringements were ignored.

I was shouting at the TV during the Bronze medal sprint - as the German was trying to pass, the Chinese rider came out of her lane, but that wasn't picked up. Looked like Gu Shuang (sp..?) should have been relegated...

Annie Last has been making some in-roads so a real medal hope.

Chris was a kilo rider so leading out for 500m is a walk in the park

IMO what these judging incidents showed is it's ridiculous to have one person making a decision. it should be a panel of at least 3. It also shows the excesses to which video replays can be put, going over slow motion replays repeatedly to look for tiny potential infringements

IMO what these judging incidents showed is it's ridiculous to have one person making a decision. it should be a panel of at least 3.

It was a panel - there are several Commissaires around the track who will all input their views to the Chief Commissaire.
The decision was fair. Not welcome by the partisan crowd obviously but it was fair.

The decision was fair. Not welcome by the partisan crowd obviously but it was fair.

Quite possibly so - it was the consistency of decison making that I was narked at

The commissaire who's been making Vicky cry is the president of Cycling BC, one Wayne Pomario.

Some bad calls by Wayne Pomario and co in these olympics. Former appears to be trying to make a name for himself.

There seemed to be bias against VP in the sprint final. Mears appeared to be in the wrong in both races. No way the first race should have been given to Mears....at very most it should have be rerun.

Also, relgation of Chinese women from gold to silver the other day looked like a very big call to make when there was no clear evidence of an infringement.