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Just browsing Kiskstarter and discovered [url= http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1202837765/z-torque-bicycle-cranks-ride-faster-longer-easier?ref=category ]this[/url] utterly laughable project, which unsurprisingly hasn't found many backers so far.

The video is hilarious, provides no data as to why his bent crank would be any better, or any logic.

Made me chuckle at any rate!

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Posted : 21/09/2012 8:45 am
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Firstly I was impressed that they'd got a patent on an old idea, but in the USA you can patent a nail. Then I read this

If you can support us with $150 we will send you a set of Z-Torque cranks in clear epoxy with either Red, Blue or Yellow carbon fiber / kevlar exposed for a super cool look to match that yellow track suit you have...
and thought maybe it's a joke ) much like the cranks.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 9:13 am
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These are where it was really at;

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Posted : 21/09/2012 9:16 am
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at no point do you get to see the cranks in action, on a bike or any kind of data supporting that bent crank arms would be better than straight ones.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 9:35 am
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Those look amazing! If you follow it round, they're almost pedalling themselves by the time you get to the bottom bracket!

2 each for all my bikes!


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 10:04 am
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Brilliant - first looking at it, it looked like it was some kind of compound lever. There have been a few designs like that, to alter the shape of the power stroke, and they do work.

However that was just because he had two on top of each other. Yep, he's an idiot ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 10:18 am
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to alter the shape of the power stroke, and they do work

how?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 10:34 am
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Wen I say "work" I mean in the limited sense that they can make the pedal stroke more efficient - pedaling in a circle is not necessarily the most effective use of the muscles.

The only one I've properly tried was a K-drive on a recumbent - it produces an oval pedal path which feels odd to start with but it is noticeable that you're pushing "straight" not around in a circle.

There's another one (the name escapes me) which uses springs on the cranks to remove the "dead point" - the top crank springs forwards a bit when the bottom crank is at the dead point, so there's less power let-off at the end of the stroke.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 11:12 am
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Must be a Nigerian inventor.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 11:56 am
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Using the Concepts of Leverage (dubious unsubstantiated claims) and Inertia (people wanting to 'crowd source' something)....to part gullible people from their money.
I like the idea of crowd sourcing to fund worthy projects that have little chance of generating a viable financial return to banks/investors but there seems to be a slew of useless shizzle that would otherwise be laughed off the face of the earth if floated anywhere else.
BMP ๐Ÿ‘ฟ (Boils my pee)


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:06 pm
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pedaling in a circle is not necessarily the most effective use of the muscles

but having a crank that is just bent, like those above, will only ever produce a circular pedaling motion.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:52 pm
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Exactly, that's why he's an idiot - he's just made an extra-flexy crank ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:24 pm
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I'm sure thats a wind up. The wink at the end, the male and female bike...


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 4:21 pm
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Quite a few theories, opinions & few desperate depreciating remarks but who has tried them out?


 
Posted : 03/09/2013 11:25 am
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Quite a few theories, opinions & few desperate depreciating remarks but who has tried them out?

I've not tried a bicycle with square wheels, and I don't need to to know that it's rubbish.


 
Posted : 03/09/2013 11:28 am
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mikey50 - only ever posted on threads about these cranks.

Do you have an interest to declare?


 
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Posted : 03/09/2013 11:29 am
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I've not tried a bicycle with square wheels, and I don't need to to know that it's rubbish

No it's not, it's just roads which are rubbish. Sort the roads out and the wheels are fine.


 
Posted : 03/09/2013 12:47 pm