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I’ve been slated in the past for suggesting that DH racers are not athletes. This kind of proves the point
Not really a great image for ‘professional’ sport , and neither was how many DH acted during lock downs
If a sport wants to be less minority it has to be more professional
I'd rather the sport had a soul tbh.
Not a fan of Danny at all, but that post annoys me much less than the “can’t be pictured without a can of noxious shite in hands at all times” you get with Red Bull athletes.
Christ yes. Rachel Athertons posts recently have been excruciatingly cringy. She's ****ing retired and still peddling the shite.
"Bull Piss helps me perform and made me a world champion"
Some rando - "not the fact you trained hard, had coaching and proper diets"
"No, it was the Bull Piss"
Aye, right ye are then.
Amazing how you can lose respect for someone...
I’ve been slated in the past for suggesting that DH racers are not athletes. This kind of proves the point
Have you ever ridden a proper DH course at race speed without stopping? They are athletes.
Christ yes. Rachel Athertons posts recently have been excruciatingly cringy. She’s **** retired and still peddling the shite.<br /><br />
So true. What’s even worse is that all RB athletes get special cans called athlete cans that just contain water so they don’t have to actually drink the stuff
It's a Redcar thing a "tab n a bundy", I'm reckoning hes got a ginger beer and sat down, seen the ash tray and was reminded of the saying.
Combined with not having any sponsor going into the next season and a ton of sponsors seemingly requiring a big social media following/interaction/influencer type of thing hes probably thinking "I've got a ton of followers maybe i just need to post more and interact more" especially since hes been hanging out with Adam Brayton quite a bit lately it's probably been on his mind and just put 2 n 2 together thinking it was a good idea to just put some more content up for quantity purposes.
What’s even worse is that all RB athletes get special cans called athlete cans that just contain water so they don’t have to actually drink the stuff
People actually think the athletes drink the stuff???
it’s probably been on his mind and just put 2 n 2 together thinking it was a good idea to just put some more content up for quantity purposes.
Not a very good thought process then. Athlete and smoking dont really mix in the same sentence.
**** me! Judgemental much you lot?
Definitely snowflake. Get over yourself.
Sometimes this place is offendedofmiddleenglandtrackworld
As for this sh**
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I’ve been slated in the past for suggesting that DH racers are not athletes. This kind of proves the pointNot really a great image for ‘professional’ sport , and neither was how many DH acted during lock downs
If a sport wants to be less minority it has to be more professional
Slated for good reason it seems. Athletes aren't role models, they're humans. WTF does "professional" mean anyway?
Im sure they do RB are brilliant at marketing
LOL you REALLY have a thing with RedBull as a company don't you 😀 it really amuses me just how angry/bitter you are about them,
He's not actually smoking, it's a strange joke. There's a strange joke within DH about smoking, Gregg Minaar, Amaury Pierron and others have posted pictures of them smoking.
It's a bit of a weird post, but it's not like he's shitting in his hand and throwing it at people #OldSkoolMountainBikingVideos
TBH, if he was on a team, I reckon he'd probably think twice before throwing up an image like that, but currently he's not sponsored, so what he posts is up to him I guess. Most of the time with stuff like this, its down to interpretation, so who knows? It may be a joke shared between friends?
Weird pic, crushed up butts in an ashtray just looks minging compared to an actual fag being smoked which might (to some) look appealing. I suspect it's a joke and he's sat at a table where someone else has left the ashtray.
I enjoy smoking perhaps two or three skinny rollies a year, but glamourising or encouraging smoking by an athlete, even in jest, is an odd choice.
Between this thread and the ebike thread it blows my mind just how sensitive some people on this forum are. Get a grip.
i saw a clip of the darts a few days ago, 1970s/80s i'd guess
'thats sportsmanship' one player jockey wlson lights his cigarette and then the rivals, they then throw some darts
very poor attitude to PR
I think this might be Hart's problem....he's not very marketable.
He is still essentially known for his slippery run at Champery and that was years ago.
His slurred speech/dialect makes it difficult for the majority of folk to understand him, but unlike Rat Boy doesn't have enough character to get away with it.
The fact that people talk openly about his old man being a bit of a dick probably doesn't help him. Not the first group of people you want to work alongside.
As for his grammar.... Didn't he quit/leave education at 16 with very little of note other than being very fast on a bike? But there are lots of MTBers as well as many other sports people who are yet to grasp basic spelling and grammar.
Imagine being that sad and tragic that you start a thread on stuff like this, based on a photo. Get a life. I bet you're one those annoying neighbours always poking their nose in where its not wanted and going around looking for things to complain about.
Imagine sitting there posting a critique of the spelling and grammar of a bunch of young'uns who basically spend all year travelling the world living the dream, having the time of their lives.
I know it's not all sunshine and roses but looking around my office right now I'd trade places in a heartbeat. Then I'd post barely legible nonsense on social media just to wind up the Dads at home.
If I had the money, I'd sponsor him in a heartbeat. Stick him on a decent bike with a good team behind him and I reckon he'd be back up there. I doubt he'll ever be 2011 fast again, he's older and has a kid, which the responsibility of, obviously slows most guys down somewhat but I still think that with decent support he's got a few good years left.
Really weird to write that when he was just a (very quick) junior when I was racing dragons. Time flies 🙄
If I had the money, I’d sponsor him in a heartbeat.
I wouldn't. I remember getting pointed in the direction of his Dad's FB page after hearing all the other stories. And then I got pointed in the direction of his missus' FB page.
Maybe he's a nice decent person but I wouldn't want anything to do with the people around him.
If he was smoking there is nothing wrong with that, i.e. it is legal to do so. There is also not much wrong with it for a young downhill rider as it won't make a lot of difference. Continue to smoke for another 30 years then you would see a big difference.
The bigger question is - shoulnd't he be vaping like everyone else? I hardly see anyone smoking these days whereas when I smoked in 80s and 90s it seems way more common.
Stick him on a decent bike with a good team behind him and I reckon he’d be back up there.
He's been on two decent bikes.... He's fast yes... he's up there yes... but there nowdays is sooooo tight that a couple of seconds is 15 places. Once you remove your Jackson/Loic for that weekend, whoever has had a decent run, once they're out of the equation, from say 5-20th is so so tight it's insane. You only need to lose 1/10th on a few corners, lose 0.5mph on a straight and suddenly you've gone from 6th-15th. That's the problem for him.
Up there isn't up there any more... up there is not quite there.
If I had the money, I’d sponsor him in a heartbeat. Stick him on a decent bike with a good team behind him and I reckon he’d be back up there.
I don't think he wants a team behind him. He's proven it by falling out with everyone in the past. He want to drive around in his motorhome with his Mrs .
I wouldn’t. I remember getting pointed in the direction of his Dad’s FB page after hearing all the other stories. And then I got pointed in the direction of his missus’ FB page.
Also this. They're all Brexit loving, immigrant hating, COVID denying, antivaxxer, flat earthers.
I couldn't be bothered with any of them.
(They might not be flat earthers but the other stuff definitely)
Any professional athlete is only there to be a billboard for sponsorship. As a team principal / ad manager / company owner looking to sponsor someone in the DH game would I sponsor someone who posts a photo of a dirty stinking ashtray on S.M.? The sport has moved on from the Ste Peat/Rob Warner getting hammered days.
There are plenty of other hungry riders more media savvy that would get my corporate coin instead.
The bigger question is – shoulnd’t he be vaping like everyone else? I hardly see anyone smoking these days whereas when I smoked in 80s and 90s it seems way more common.
Smoking is vinyl and vaping is CDs. Soon, there will be a resurgence of smoking as people want to stand out and get the real experience.
I suppose everyone has something that makes them clutch their pearls these days.
Honestly this is just looking for something to be offended by, Implied smoking? FFS...
There are plenty of other hungry riders more media savvy that would get my corporate coin instead.<br /><br />
This is where I’m coming from. I do t give two stuffs what image the sport gives, but if it wants to grown its audience and be less minority it needs to be more professional to appeal to more people, plus sponsors won’t want association with smoking
Football is by no means perfect, but my lad at 13 has social media ‘lessons’ from his club
I'm amazed that anyone would ever smoke, I lost three of my grandparents to cancer that was smoking related. And I spent my youth surrounded by a stinking cloud of cigarette smoke.
But people make their own choices, we all take risks every day, plenty unnecessarily (like mountain biking) which could also be construed as reckless.
Should have completed the Aussie vernacular with reference to a 'dart'.
That's all I can find issue with.
that bundaberg is lovely, full of sugar, home bargains special from time to time.
i agree i never got smoking, its no wonder people hate the first climb at llandegla , the stink of pot being smoked in the car park when ive been
I’m amazed that anyone would ever smoke,
I used to enjoy it. Used to enjoy drinking way too much and eating crap food too. I was in my twenties though and didn't really seem to have much affect. However, at 55 I am glad I glad up smoking 20+ years ago, and don't even touch any food with a hint of UPF about it. Am I happier though, would rather not think about that...
Maybe he’s a nice decent person but I wouldn’t want anything to do with the people around him.
I don't think many folks do. I've heard rumours that sports management companies have turned him down on the basis that they don't want to have to deal with his relations who come along free into the bargain.
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Imagine being that sad and tragic that you start a thread on stuff like this, based on a photo. Get a life. I bet you’re one those annoying neighbours always poking their nose in where its not wanted and going around looking for things to complain about.
@jhinwxm I'm soooo sorry for being 'sad and tragic' that I have nothing better to do.....
I honestly generally don't give a f*** what my neighbours do unless they're chopping down the woodland at the back of my house - oh how sad am I that I reported them.......
I was wondering on peoples opinion (yes we all have one and are allowed to voice it...) I just thought 'professional' sports/athletes had moved on from the 80's/90's and was about promoting healthier lifestyles (well, apart from all the Red Bull, Monster and gambling companies etc.) - shock horror that some agree with me and others don't.
I shall go back in my box and find something else to be offended by......
I'd be amazed if he actually smoked, given that his missus has gone full tin foil hat conspiracy theory with regards to big pharma, vaccines and anything else you put in your body. No need for modern medicine according to her, just grind up some tree bark. I doubt she's letting him smoke
without wanting to derail the thread from the outrage of a bloke 'avin a faaaaag....
Can someone shed light on what his dad is like? I see some comments about him being a possible dick. im curious!
thanks 🙂
Umm, don't look at his Instragram?
My equivalent gripe is Gee Atherton (amongst plenty others) swearing in his posts from years back. Again, its not the worst but its also lazy and arrogant when, knowingly, kids will be watching. But heh, he's not Andrew Tate so I'm not losing sleep.
My equivalent gripe is Gee Atherton (amongst plenty others) swearing in his posts from years back.
Now you're just being a primary school teacher.
Can someone shed light on what his dad is like? I see some comments about him being a possible dick. im curious!
I'm from the northeast and I've encountered all of them at some point. I don't even know where to start. He's one of the only people I'm willing to criticise on a public forum because I have my own first hand experience and he's so awful that I'm prepared to believe all of the rumours.
My earliest experience of Daddy Hart was when he used to drive his pickup up and down the side of the DH track at Hamsterley running uplifts for Danny. That road is only just passable in a 4x4 and not suitable for driving fast but he used to give it full send everywhere and had a mouthful of abuse for anyone who got in his way or slowed him down. There's also many incidents of him grabbing Danny's bike and barging to the front of a queue at races or uplifts. He's always seconds away from dropping a "Do you know who my son is?" to anyone who complained. Then there's a shouting and arguing with officials and marshals, it just goes on and on. All of my memories have poor Danny in the background looking sheepish.
I haven't seen them for years. Hamsterley used to be my local but I'm not giving them a penny.
There’s also many incidents of him grabbing Danny’s bike and barging to the front of a queue at races or uplifts. He’s always seconds away from dropping a “Do you know who my son is?” to anyone who complained. Then there’s a shouting and arguing with officials and marshals, it just goes on and on.
I can tell a similar story about a very well respected multiple world champion and their family. Pushy, obnoxious parents are nothing new at any level in any sport, and are one reason why I stopped helping to organise races years ago.
Yeah that's true. My shitlist is not limited to the Hart family that's for sure!
I think Daddy Hart (that's what I'm calling him from now on) is fair game because he's been a foul mouthed, aggro, hillbilly for decades and it's not exactly new information.