To be serious for a second, I reckon it all went tits up with Strava and Sportives. Now every Bobby Small Potatoes thinks they are fighting for the yellow jersey on every ride, hence they ain't waving/smiling...as wouldn't get the pros doing that....and they race right? So they must also be pros.
Hence NO SMILY WAVE TIME.
...plus some people regardless of wheel size, are just ignorant ****s.
Damn it Jamie, both 'S' words in one post? This doesn't bode well.
Yeah totally agree with the whole Strava thing, for me it's taken the fun out of mtb as people just want to set a fast time rather than have a laugh and fun.
Oh talking of Strava, I think this sums up what it's done to mtb nicely!
Just too many out there, and tbh why do people feel they need to be recognised?
I still lift a finger from the bars to guys I know or other clubs. Come deep winter you hardly see a soul out on the road, then at the first sign of summer millions appear, so I don't really see them as having anything in common with me.
And it's just a UK thing anyway isn't it.
I'm sure you are right. If I still had a road bike, I'd be tempted to don the lycra and test the theory once and for all. Maybe someone who rides both could try this test
I get loads of waves/nod from other roadies when out on the road bike, and all this despite being in London, populated only with unfriendly bankers, and not the salt of the earth wavey types you find up north. I don't really ride my MTB on the road much, so can't speak to whether they'd still wave at me if I was on a different bike.
I get loads of waves/nod from other roadies when out on the road bike
That's exactly what I suspected might be the case! Try it on your mtb for a laugh. It's quite funny how most of them totally blank you out even though there's nobody else in sight on the road. It's becoming a sport for me now on the way to the local woods 🙂
Try it on your mtb for a laugh.
Basic sociology! Different tribe...
Back in the day 2CV owners would acknowledge each other as fellow weird French car owners. But they didn't wave at every car driver...
Honestly OP, just accept your rules for social engagement aren't known to strangers coming the other way and give over trying to hold them hostage for it!
If you're 'making a sport of it' it sounds like you've decided you don't like roadies and you're just collecting evidence to prove your point. Heard of confirmation bias?
Same approach as your average cyclist-hater who claims ALL cyclists ride through red lights...
Edited.
For my own sanity.
I live on a popular cycle route and once tried to open dialogue with a road cyclist as i could see him pushing his bike up the hill.
Nope ignored me..didnt think i would be a fellow cyclist with tubes and tools and probabley could of helped him.
Mostley though its all good round this way, i run more than cycle and often get two way nods/aknowledment even when running.
I was riding the fatbike yesterday and a roadie started to talk to me.
Does this prove anything?
On my mountain bike roadies ignore me mountain bikers don't
On my road bike mountain bikers ignore me , proper roadies ignore me too because I'm a fat munter. Normal roadies acknowledge my existence though
Tribal dickheads imo
Riders of BSO' s ignore me whatever bike I'm on.
I'll wave at anyone on a bicycle... 8)
It's a strange thing, riding on a morning in the peaks and I get hello's all over the shop from rodies
Pan to a mid week night ride a couple of weeks ago, sheffield club ride in the opposite directon, we say hi then start to shout hi to all 50+ of them, not a single nod.
I've met a few recently strange obsessive folks
Honestly OP, just accept your rules for social engagement aren't known to strangers coming the other way and give over trying to hold them hostage for it!
I didn't realise a quick nod when passing someone in the middle of nowhere required specific knowledge of rules of social engagement! I just thought it was a polite gesture that most normal people would naturally reciprocate. Do you deliberately blank someone if they say hi to you when passing on a trail? Or would you need to refer to the rules of social engagement first?
If you're 'making a sport of it' it sounds like you've decided you don't like roadies and you're just collecting evidence to prove your point. Heard of confirmation bias?
I've been a roadie myself for at least 30 years and just find it a bit sad/amusing that the vast majority of the ones I've come across recently are so ignorant. Even the horsey types are a lot more friendly and that's saying something. You have to remember that I'm passing these guys close by on deserted country roads, not on the other side of a busy main road.
Tribal dickheads imo
Exactly, couldn't have worded it better!
Ah well.
At least you know who some of the ****s are on here now.
Although, like taste in music, that'll have to remain an entirely subjective opinion.
🙂
I'll wave at anyone on a bicycle...
*winks at HH*
At least you know who some of the ****s are on here now.
yeah, quite revealing I thought. Marked a few cards already 😉
I Went for a mountain bike ride with a couple of roadies a few weeks back, part of the conversion went along the lines of clothing,
Pointing at my baggy shorts one of them says, "Yeah, I get the whole Grunge thing but after a while those things chafe up badly."
Grunge thing??????
That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me in about 20 years.
I find shouting "yooo hooo, morning ladies" at groups of oncoming riders (road or mtb) always garners a reaction. Maybe the OP should try that?
Its usually just the front rider that acknowledges you. I'll sometimes just call the name of the oncoming club, so I say Verulam with a nod and their front man will reply with a Buzzards. Just too many out there so you just acknowledge your kind (sounds bad that) but I do get blanked by the so try hard new guys that just ride soooo fast and stare ahead when passing I don't bother anymore. Like I said I don't see them all winter and they're never on the start line at weekends.
Are Landrover still flashing each other?
I didn't realise a quick nod when passing someone in the middle of nowhere required specific knowledge of rules of social engagement! I just thought it was a polite gesture that most normal people would naturally reciprocate. Do you deliberately blank someone if they say hi to you when passing on a trail? Or would you need to refer to the rules of social engagement first?
Well as already pointed out several times, yes you did. You actually started a thread all about your perceived lack of others knowledge of your rules of social engagement.
Ok, inspired by this thread, some observations from this morning's 90-minute outing on the CX. 2 roadies: 1 returned my nod, the other (pisspot and baggies) looked bemused. 3 joggers and 1 walker: all smiled or mumbled a hello. 1 mtb-er, on-coming on double track: I nodded and said hello to which he looked horrified, swerved off his side of the track and into the boggy grass on the side. Conclusions to be drawn: don't really care, I'm gonna have a cuppa and sit in the bath.
I have been pleasantly surprised of late by friendliness of all cyclists (Roadies and MTB'ers), I always get a greeting in first though which may help.... . 🙂
I was out on my road bike last Sunday and while cycling down a narrow lane came across the rudest roadie i've ever met. The road was only wide enough for one car or two cyclists. Coming towards me were two roadies cycling two abreast. One cut in behind the other as they saw me, but then the other one moved across and forced me on to the verge as we passed. No acknowledgement, no sorry, just kept looking straight ahead like a massive dick.
All I can say is, don't go for a road ride in Belgium expecting greetings and waves. If you did that, you'd never have your hands on the bars! Riding time is for being serious and getting your training done. Cafe time is for being social.
wow 5 pages about this 😉
can i also ask which is betterer 29" or 650b 🙂
Riding time is for being serious and getting your training done.
Yeah, plenty of time for enjoying yourself when you're not cycling. 😐
Seriously, this comes up so often for a reason.
That reason being that the OP is correct.
And this thread just keeps providing more evidence.
but then the other one moved across and forced me on to the verge as we passed. No acknowledgement, no sorry, just kept looking straight ahead like a massive dick.
I think that's a matter of perception. I don't believe that he actually rode you off the road, was probably just happier passing closer than you were - you need less than two foot of road after all to avoid a collision. If you could fit a car down the road you can sure as hell fit more than two cyclists down it!
yeah Belgium....nothing on the road, but everyman and his dog talks to you at cafes. njee20 I caused a new club member to fall off when I rode up to him, he wasn't best pleased and that was perception.
A (elite racing) friend of mine used to come up your inside quite often when riding along and I'd be in my 'normal' position, used to freak me out a bit frankly, he was just very comfortable riding 2cm from the pavement! Used to regularly put leg warmers on/off while riding too!
Seriously, this comes up so often for a reason.
That reason being that the OP is correct.
And this thread just keeps providing more evidence.
What sort of road bike do you ride Rusty?
I was just cresting the brow of a hill on a rural road on my mtb once, 3 older roadies came past and they all said hi & the one at the back said 'come on mate jump on the back'..... which was nice!
imnotverygood - MemberWhat sort of road bike do you ride Rusty?
This one:
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Got a Rolls on it now, but pretty much the same.
Hoping to swap the frame for something more comfortable this year, probably a Spa Audax.
Also a 1992 Rockhopper with rigid forks that's used for very occasional commuting, shopping and touring.
Why do you ask?
Not too long ago I met a local sportive coming the other way whilst on a cx bike. Bastards ALL greeted me. After returning the first 30 or so I realised there was only one thing for it and put my head down and pretended to be laying down some awesome power and gurning too heavily to acknowledge them.
Another anecdote - did the Lemming trail ride a few years back - beautiful weather and passed hundreds of other mtber's coming the other way. I greeted most if not all, about half returned it.
What does this prove? Nothing. people draw their own conclusions based on their personal experiences but coloured heavily by preconceptions and prejudices.
I think this need to be acknowledged as being part of a tribe is unique to the UK - certainly in South Africa and Europe you don't get it as far as I have seen.
Indeedy doody da.
On the road bike I'm serious even if it doesn't show, plus I'm a bit old fashioned....you know white socks, crimped cables, matching clothing, no water butts on yer back etc.
When I'm audaxing....well hellooooo.
CX racing a bit of both
Road racing, painfully serious during, total opposite afterwards.
MTB'ing for me pure fun so all smiles.
MTB racing erm serious again.
But ultimately I'm not there to please you, over a riding year the way I feel varies greatly. Sometimes I'm happy, sometimes I'm tired, sometimes I find I'm ill, sometimes I just don't see you.
This place crosses my mind sometimes when I'm out. I was 'training' on a local climb, guys says Hi and I couldn't get a word out. Straight off to STW to moan I thought afterwards.
Oh, come on, you love it really.
🙂
As paid up racer and the roadiest roadie I know on here, you must feel a little embarrassed at the attitude of some people on here toward someone posting a simple question?
Unless it's Fred again.
Hmmmmn.
OP - Kenny Dalgliesh sniffs dog's bums.
How do you feel about that?
Dunno, people are just weird so not really. Kind of why I hardly bother with the niceties anymore. I mean I do say hello and stuff, but not all the time now. You give some newbie trying hard a hi and they ignore you....the cheeky f***ers.
Also stopped with the road ride signs (almost) got fed up with all the yells and people depending on it.
I am a absolute charmer when out though seriously 😀
