Hi
After getting fed up of fragile road tyres, tonight I fitted (very easily) 2 Hutchinson tubeless road tyres. They roll really smoothly and seem great - the sidewalls are nice and burly compared to the Pro3 Races that came off. Should see me through a crappy winter!
Anyone else tried them?
GB
But Pro Race tyres were never designed as a winter tyre anyway, have you tried something like GP 4 seasons, or gatorskins?
I run them and like them a lot but not as a winter tyre. 28mm GP4seasons for that.
GP4 seasons split where the tread joins the sidewall, just like GP3000 and GP4000.
I've tried a lot of tyres and couldn't seem to find a nice, reasonably supple, durable winter tyre - plus I've used Stans for the last 7 years on the MTB and thought it should work well on the road.
GB
Running the Hutchinson Fusion tubeless road too, find them all right. Fitted them to standard Fulcrum Racing 3's (not the new 2-wat-fit type). I fitted a tubeless valve stem and blocked a small pin hole in the rim bed with superglue - that's it. The rims have no spoke holes so nothing else required. Run the road tyres around 80psi with Joe's No Flats sealant. I find they grip well and there is a more comfortable ride than standard tubed tyres at 100psi say, but the difference is subtle, not night and day and obviously tubed tyres would be the same at 80psi too, just you run more risk of snakebights on bumps & potholes. No punctures in 12 months riding but can't say if that's down to the tubeless set-up or whether I'm just lucky and just haven't punctured. Use the same setup for 'cross with Hutchinson Bulldog CX tyres and they're ok too. They burp air occasionally on bumps below 40psi though so keep them above that. I'd like to try them on proper UST designed rims (Shimano & Fulcrum/Campy 2 way fit)to see what they're like at lower pressures. Now I don't run tubes at all any more, 2 MTB's and the CX bike all tubeless, only tubes I have are spares in the jersey pocket for bad punctures that the juice wont seal.
Had to join in. The whole idea is pretty pointless if you ask me, as somebody who riders around 15-20hours/week in all conditions on the road it really wouldn't be worth the hasstle. Gatorskins would be an excellent choice, not had a flat in months...
One other option is to have a tub inside a clincher tyre, they weigh a fair bit combined, but are pretty much puncture proof. Friend of mine does this.
One other option is to have a tub inside a clincher tyre, they weigh a fair bit combined, but are pretty much puncture proof. Friend of mine does this.
Erm, can anyone say overkill?
The whole idea is pretty pointless if you ask me, as somebody who riders around 15-20hours/week in all conditions on the road it really wouldn't be worth the hasstle
Gee is an elite MTB racer who does a fair bit of riding, he's not some fat chipper, not that the amount of riding has any relevance here...
Running a tub inside a clincher strikes me as rather absurd! If puncture protection is the sole aim then just use Spesh Armadillo tyres which are guaranteed not to flat.
I really like the Fusion clinchers (tube type) and would certainly be interested to try the tubeless ones, I have to admit I'm not certain of the benefits, the reduced pressure being the main advantage on the MTB.
I used to run Pro 3s on my summer carbon road bike.
I have now changed to GP4000s and find them great.
On my commuting bike, I run Ultra Gatorskins in 700*23 all year round.
No punctures in 18 months and good grip.
I might change them to 700*25 next winter to get a little bit more cushioning on the road that have been destroyed during the snow/ice we had the last few weeks...
Interested to see how you get on with them George, been thinking about some for the summer bike as I do like my tubeless.
Been running Gatorskins for the last two winters, found them to be very good, 1 puncture in two years, caused by a sidewall rip on a rock (short, very rocky, shortcut, oops). They seem as comfortable as the GP4000s on the summer bike, though I do use 25c on the winter bike as opposed to 23c on the summer bike.
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Had to join in. The whole idea is pretty pointless if you ask me, as somebody who riders around 15-20hours/week in all conditions on the road it really wouldn't be worth the hasstle.
= "I know that this is rubbish because I have not tried it"
njee20 - I know that now. Didn't look at the original post in enough detail, apologies to George Budd. 😉
The idea of a tub in a clincher does sound odd I know, nothing wrong with it if you have some old tubs lying around though I guess. The guy who does it is also elite rider (on the road) if that makes any difference.
In summary - Gatorskins for the win!
cynic-al - if I got loads of flats maybe I'd give tubeless on the road a go, until then...
Running a tub inside a clincher strikes me as rather absurd!
seems to workfor Rob Hayles and I've heard that he knows something about riding on the road...
I put 2 big cuts in a gatorskin in about 50 miles of riding
I'm on those armadillos now. No holes but they're a bit "tractor"
(luckily I [u]am[/u] a fat chipper & no puncture has ever cost me a podium, though two made me late for my tea once)
I've had flats with armadillos fwiw...
clubber - I've had flats with armadillos fwiw...
chipper !
(err, what's a chipper?)
