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99 posts to go to keep Trout happy 😉
another day without my delivery of chargers !! How come it can take less than 3 days to arrive in the country and then an extra 4+ to be farted around this country, no wonder this country is in such a state.
As soon as I get them they will be on a 24hr to troutie.
found my little box of goodies when I got in this evening.
So small! And so nicely made. Im enjoying rubbing it now...
Quick check against your pic of a built liberator and I have to bolt myself down to not run out to the shed and get my solder and iron right now! Ill do it tomorrow 🙂
Cheers Chris, nice one.
hi troutie just sent you email for cost for LL and BABY self build for mid DECEMBER. watch the thread for some time,v impressed
al
Nice one Mark thanks at least the postie thing is not too bad at the mo . sent a couple out today spec del so wonder when they will get there .
King alan
will have a look and answer in the morning as the right side of a few beers and a curry right now .
sorry trout but any chance of n update on mine.
First ride out with mine tonight. 4 of us out: 2 of the new lights, 1 Troutelight mk1 and 1 Hope 4 LED.
I've been spoiled with my last light (a mk1) so not a complete revelation but really happy with it. a few thoughts:
Comparing the mk1 and mk2 housings side by side shows a real progression in the quality of the machining and the thought gone into the new housings.
Mount super stable and easy to use, a real step forward over single bolt mounts.
Liked the 'bottom window': I was concerned that there would be glare back from stem & cables etc but not distracting at all and gave some useful light down low for slow techy stuff.
Beam pattern was really even, nice bright centre area than a good spread of light over a wider area, no discernible hotspots.
Did a quick comparison with the mk1 (6 xpe r2) and the new light was significantly brighter, but very similar throw and beam pattern. mk1 had (I think) 4 narrow optics & 2 wide ellipticals and mk2 5 narrow optics and 1 medium (I had a few spare optics from my previous build which I used). So xpgs do seem a bit more floody, but not massively so.
I do seem to like a narrower beam than most, and I'd be interested in trying some narrower xpg specific optics (if they come out) to give a bit more throw. But to be honest on todays fairly techy ride I never wished for more throw (or more light for once).
BTW our mate with the Hope4 opted out of the comparison and was asking a fair few questions about the Troutelights!
many thanks Chris.
PS: meant to take the camera for some pics but forgot
Late back from work so no ride tonight, so a few taken last night
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The proto should be with you by now Trout?
Is mine likely to be waiting for me when i get back tuesday, do you know?
*slightly blind stoner*
All these pics dont get over just how small it is. And the driver is tiny! Im very chuffed with my soldering skills - worked first time and all joints seem OK...
Epoxy took two goes, but it does go off eventually.
Not done any silicon as all mine has gone off in the tubes, so will waterproof it another time. Anyway, birds dont fly in the rain, so I see no reason why I should ride in the rain 🙂
Hopefully have some beam pics tonight in comparison with Ayup intermediate single head set, an Airbike SL1 P7, and maybe a 20W lumi halogen too.
I wish i had a spare £250 for one of these......just have to slum it with a DX until i can rob a bank. 😉
Lol @ El Presidente! The DX is a great little light, and it'll keep you riding until the cash is there for a Troutelight. Don't forget, Xmas is coming: ask for money towards one of Trout's little gems. 😀
I got mine on Tuesday as promised, and yeah it is tiny - much smaller than I thought. The quality is spot on and the switch is really positive. Once charged it lit up my garage a treat!
Nightride last night and it really is amazing. No hotspots, VERY bright and it makes a helmet lamp redundant unless you are riding switchbacks. I had an Exposure Enduro Maxx for comparison and with the Trout on full, the Maxx adds nothing, you can't tell if it is on. If I'm being ultra critical, I still can't find anything to dislike about it!
I'd love to see a magazine comparison test, because I can't believe there is anything better out there at any money.
Any news on wire size yet Chris/Smudge ?
Hi happy,
sorry I didnt see you're first email. I use UL1007 24AWG wire.
Please email me If you would like me to post you some lengths up to you i can do that no problem.
Just back from my first proper night ride with then and they were fantastic.
I rode with my spot Ay Ups on my helmet and for most of the ride I had the trouts on low, but when it came to the singletrack or anything technical the high beam was much beter than I expected, the downlighter window if a fantastic addition as well.
There were 18 riders out some with DX some with the big Hopes and not once when on full power did I ever ride in a shadow of someone behinds lights.
I think I pissed of a couple of riders in front of me with the trouties on full power they couldn't see the trail in front of them.
10/10 Chris, nice work and a great package.
Thanks smudge, I was wondering what gauge to get for the internal wiring, and I thought I'd have to guess it. Trout, are you going to stick up some up to date pics of the build sequence for us numpties to follow?
...Pretty please?
Quick post. In a hurry.
Beam shots from first ride. Brilliant performance by trout lite.
F4, 6s, Auto WB, c.28mm
Notice board @ c.20-25m
Ayup single intermediate head unit 07 tech.
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Airbike P7
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The question is though Stoner... where were all these shots taken? 😉
...one for all you eagle-eyed trail spotters out there. 😛
Cool pics stoner thanks for them .
Who is gonna do the first lupine betty V Troute comparison probably be fairly similar but would love to see one .
XT
I keep forgetting to take the camera in the garage with me
will do on the next one probably tonight .
Looking for a new light for the GF - that airbike p7 shot doesn't look too bad for the money. Any body know any reason not to buy one of those?
Yes the airbike looks pretty good there .
XT
[url= http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa46/amticoman/LIBERATOR%20HOW%20TOO%20MK2/ ]New how to pics here[/url]
I take it all the current batch of lights are spoken for?
Any idea when the next available delivery will be?
Hi Chris, got out last night and was blown away with the light.
Got some pics against a DX, clearly no comparison.
Justme got out last night with the baby, so will get his feedback on the Friday night bimble tonight.
I'll mail you about buying the baby trout off you if thats OK, could you let me know what it would be with a new battery, also I'll sent back your case as well.
Why does everyone (apart from me) have the shutter open for 6 seconds?
The above picture on high it's what the Trout light is like, It's bright and a fantastic light but that shot isn't what it's like out on the trail.
Even I would say the 6 second shutter shot is too bright to ride with.
Hey up John
the settings for the beamshots seem to be a throw back to a massive light review a guy did on the MTBR forums that was when lights were aroung 400 lumens .
and on there it was looked at as a standard setting that gave lifelike results .
f4 - 6 seconds - white ballance daylight .
I am no photographer and know nowt about it
I have said in the past on there that with the newer higher power leds and lights that a new setting should be sorted as pics tend to lie at 6 seconds now .
Hi Monty .
some how I did not expect the Baby to come home 😉
Just in from the crazy new zealand guy
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Cool shot, makes me wonder - could you give it a 'Knight Rider' mode? 💡 🙂
Cheers for the new how-to pics, Chris. This Sunday's going to be pants, so there will be much soldering going on.
lol ooOOoo
Trout/ Smudge, any joy with the batteries yet?
Beam shots are very difficult to take and reproduce accuracy.
The massive mtbr test last year was very well carried out by Francois, the forum founder. He used the same settings for every light he tested. This was for control, and seemed to give a fair representation of what you would you see on the trail.
The pics which stoner has posted are plainly over exposed. The centre part is completely white and burnt out.
I had a go at taking some beam shots last year comparing the Hope Vision 4, the Nightlightning iBlaast! NZ light and the L&M HID Arc. I had to tailor them on my PC to get them to look what I thought to be accurate.
Here is one of the iBlaast! which I still think is a little overexposed
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Mulletus, troutie should be getting them delivered to his door on a SAT AM delivery tomorrow 8)
Smudge, is that for the chargers too? Did they finally arrive?
Thanks smudge. 😀
Edit - Just realised what I said, meant Chargers as well. 😳
Got them this morning, now waiting for Mr DHL to come and pick them up ➡
Chris
Would I be correct in thinking you have sent our kits out with 4 spots and 2 two medium spread lenses?
Could you confirm this for me please as I might have a play with different configuration's
Scott
I think he has though it's more like 4 medium and 2 wide as he uses xpe optics which combined with the xpg makes them a bit floodier than the optics suggest.
Re - lupine betty vs troutlite no comparison the betty would get completely hammered, i have a friend with one and it's not a lot better than a single p7 even yours on low might top it, I've a friend with one soon as she asks for a ride i'll bring me camera along.
Can't wait for the s2 xpg, i might prefer the warmer tint it's mean to have not to mention the extra 350 lumens. 😀
I was under the imperssion that the optics were 2wide,2medium,2spots? as in the last beam shots on page 7.
Correct me if im wrong ❗
There are a few differing slightly combinations out there
some 2 narrow lens front 2 narrow flat front and 2 med
but the majority are 4 narrow lens front and 2 medium
I canceled the 2 wide and now have a box full of the devils
as they were not making the beam any better and just wasting light imho .
they all give a nice riding light as folks have said .
as Huxley says the xpg leds give a wider beam than the xpe leds .
my photos were intended to be comparative rather representative.
I dont believe a photo can ever be truly representative of the lights performance on the trail. Hence the reason for comparative images at a consistent exposure setting so people can draw their own conclusions based on what they are familiar with.
My photos do my Ayups an injustice though since although they are far lower power they are one of the best managed in terms of light out there and helmet mounted a single intermediate head is perfectly useable on its own.
Chris
Sent you an email regarding bottom case screws.
Cheers Ian
Oops meant to say 4 narrow 2 medium optics, like trout says they come out a bit wider than the lenses suggest.
I like to think my pictures are fairly accurate, as said it's hard to get an accurate representation.
Has anyone changed their light from duo mode to 5 light level mode and if so what is the method used?
Happysv.i was thinking that the other day.
Troutie. do we get any instructions to play around with the driver(compulsive tinkerer).ta bud.