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Tripster ATR finally built up - lush!

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Another similar bike to consider is the sabbath September ar1. Had mine for a couple of years now and it's been really good. Plenty of clearance for a wider tyre too.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 10:43 am
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Well mine came back from Bounce in Preston last night, with the BB fitted after having the threads cleaned (don't ask 🙁 ) and the brakes bled. So, new road wheels fitted Hope 20Five's with 28mm Schwalbe one pros' and bar, stem, seat and post fitted.

Day off work Tomorrow whilst the Mrs is in Hospital for a day op, so full build should be complete by tomorrow night, ready for a right soaking on Saturday 🙂


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 12:34 pm
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You can still buy a Van Nicholas Amazon frame for less than £1,300.

http://www.fatbirds.co.uk/5842/products/van-nicholas-amazon-touring-frame-inc-headset-and-50-off-any-fork.aspx

The Tripster is just a johnny-come-lately upstart.....


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 12:40 pm
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[i] (don't ask 🙁 ) [/i]

Oh, please can I??


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 12:52 pm
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Which is kind of a bummer, as all the 60 and 57cm V1 frames are now out of stock...

I bought a V1 60 from Freeborn last week.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 12:57 pm
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Lots of choice out there granted - sites listing the V1 60cm I think have no link to what upgrade (distributor) has in stock and just assume they can order them all in.

DrP Shimano shifters/brakes not for sale, I can still send them back for the next 20 days for refund!

I have started looking at what Chinese carbon frames are available with big clearance and flout mount, you can get quiet a lot for $500, shame that $500 is a lot of £ these days!


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:14 pm
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The ultegra BB cups went by hand for the first couple of threads and then when they got to that white stuff (I assume it's a Loctite) type material it started to bind. Hence the brand new cups got knackered and the Ti threads were full of ally from the cups 🙁

Not a good start to a build 🙁 🙄

all OK now though thankfully 🙂


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:15 pm
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So, new road wheels fitted Hope 20Five's with 28mm Schwalbe one pros' and bar, stem, seat and post fitted.

Be interested to see what you think of the one pro's?

Anyone running G-One's on their tripster?


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:16 pm
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I have used the original Ones on my Genesis for all last winter and they have been OK, I'm curious to see if the pro's are any less robust.

I suppose I will only find out on a dark, unlit road, during a winter rainstorm when I'm in a rush to get home 🙄


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:22 pm
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@vortex: Ugh!

@The "another similar bike to consider" crew: Looky at this beauty - http://www.whycycles.com/our-bikes/rcycle/ *swoon*
(Anyone wanna buy a year old Tripster frame? 😆 )


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:45 pm
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Reilly Bikes Gradient looks rather lovely:

http://grit.cx/reviews/reilly-cycleworks-gradient

@ Dez - hideously bent down tube. 😐


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:49 pm
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The ultegra BB cups went by hand for the first couple of threads and then when they got to that white stuff (I assume it's a Loctite) type material it started to bind

I recall that my BB bound up after only a few rotations of insert, I then just backed and forthed until it went all the way in.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:54 pm
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[i]hideously bent down tube[/i]

No. No. There is nothing hideous there. (Except the Laufs!)


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 1:56 pm
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Just a sneaky update for you all, watch this space on the 18th Nov... the new improved v2 Tripster ATR is launched and available to order !


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 2:06 pm
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Week I've got a partially built up v2 frame hanging in my kitchen so neh neh neugh!!!

😉

DrP


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 2:59 pm
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That's sneaky that DrP!

As they say on the internet, pictures or it didn't happen! 😈


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 4:17 pm
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The Tripster is just a johnny-come-lately upstart.....

That Van Nicholas doesn't have disc brakes and only has clearance for up to 37mm tyres.

This thread is 3 years old, I reckon the other bikes are the 'come latelys'!

I remember a guy from Reilly (Nerve then) looking at my tripster in a bike shop and not knowing it was mine remarking it was a 'piece of shit'. Well they seem to be making something remarkably similar now.......


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 5:38 pm
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DrP was one of our illicit pre-ordererers... Don't tell them or show anything!

Video and full release next week. I'm really excited about this bike! Any questions do ask.. Bruce (Kinesis UK)


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 5:55 pm
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Is this one if those moments where I lift my head from the sand, realise what's going on, apologise, and sulk away slowly...???!!

(I didn't realise it wasn't out!!!)

I'll keep schtum

DrP


 
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Only joking DrP (you'll have online exclusive!) it took us way longer than we ever thought to change what we wanted, the price has increased because of the things we added to make it the sort of bike we all wanted to be proud of riding. I've followed this threat for ages and it's great to see some love continuing. Sadly we were slow to launch as our factory couldn't get the rear dropout to our standard. Now it's certainly a frame I'm proud of having a hand in designing, it seems ages since we sent frame drawings so nice to finally have a complete bike to show to the world next week!

Bruce


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 6:22 pm
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To add to that... Add I stated above, the extra touches really are great..the sort of things I found myself wishing for from time to time - flat shoulder section, extra bottle mount etc...

I hope the top tube/steerer interface is a bit, erm, beefier 😉
I've only 8 month's warranty left!

DrP


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 7:01 pm
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Someone must have the v1 geometry chart downloaded. Could that someone post it? I'd like to have it for my archives.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 7:44 pm
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Isn't it still on the website
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Posted : 10/11/2016 8:22 pm
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[quote=birdage ]

The Tripster is just a johnny-come-lately upstart.....
That Van Nicholas doesn't have disc brakes
[url= https://c2.staticflickr.com/7/6070/6032054553_ece16ca8cb_b.jp g" target="_blank">https://c2.staticflickr.com/7/6070/6032054553_ece16ca8cb_b.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/ac2REz ]2010-04-13 23-45-11[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/druidh2000/ ]Colin Cadden[/url], on Flickr
and only has clearance for up to 37mm tyres.
1.75" Marathon Mondials fit fine.
This thread is 3 years old, I reckon the other bikes are the 'come latelys'!
Check the date on that photo above.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 9:46 pm
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whitecitadel - haven't tried G-Ones but have been running One Pros and S-Ones on my Tripster.

Both are nice and fast, and I have put about a thousand miles on the S-Ones with little wear apart from one puncture (fixed with a tubeless repair kit and good for 200 miles so far).

I was tempted by some G-ones for summer exploring but honestly i think I'll just stick to the S-ones as they are great off road when it's dry.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 10:26 pm
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Just looking at the Scwalbe site and it seems the S one is no more, but they do have two versions of the G one.

The G one 'speed'and the G one 'all round'


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 7:51 am
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Looks like they have just been renamed to "g one speed" but nothing else has changed.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 10:10 am
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Scotroutes - fair enough but your link is to a different bike......


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 12:05 pm
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[i]Scotroutes - fair enough but your link is to a different bike......[/i]

And start a van-nicholas-finally-built-up-lush thread. See how it goes.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 3:28 pm
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[quote=birdage ]Scotroutes - fair enough but your link is to a different bike......

This is for a frame with a FREE HEADSET and £50 OFF any Fork, [b]images are only a guide[/b]

The point is that there are a number of similar bikes/frames out there for folk that don't want to spend as much as a new Tripster costs.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 3:32 pm
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[quote=bikerbruce]Video and full release next week. I'm really excited about this bike! Any questions do ask.. Bruce (Kinesis UK)

Ok.. here we go then:

[quote=bikerbruce]the price has increased because of the things we added to make it the sort of bike we all wanted to be proud of riding.

I think like many I am struggling to see how a £1500 Tripster frameset has turned into a £2180 frameset (£1850 frame, £280 fork, no headset so add £50 for that as well). Adding the thru axle, internal routing and those bottom bottle bosses really jumped the price!

I guess next week you will announce a special launch bundle with frame and fork for £1600 for singletrack members who have been waiting all year for this frame? 😉

[quote=bikerbruce]Sadly we were slow to launch as our factory couldn't get the rear dropout to our standard.

You can say that again, the road.cc preview was Feb 3rd!

[quote=atrthanks]whitecitadel - haven't tried G-Ones but have been running One Pros and S-Ones on my Tripster.

Both are nice and fast, and I have put about a thousand miles on the S-Ones with little wear apart from one puncture (fixed with a tubeless repair kit and good for 200 miles so far).

I was tempted by some G-ones for summer exploring but honestly i think I'll just stick to the S-ones as they are great off road when it's dry.

[quote=vortexracing]Just looking at the Scwalbe site and it seems the S one is no more, but they do have two versions of the G one.

The G one 'speed'and the G one 'all round'

I totally missed that, now's a good time to go shopping for "old" and "obsolete" 2016 tyres then 😆 😉

I am kind of arriving at the same conclusion that S-One (or the artist now known as G-One Speed) is the right tyre, if I had two wheels I would go for a second set with the G-One 40mm on though!

[quote=atrthanks]Looks like they have just been renamed to "g one speed" but nothing else has changed.

You could say that... if you hadn't noticed the 60-622 (29 x 2.35) version! Jumbo!


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 1:00 pm
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I'm still pretty pissed off that when I called Kinesis a couple of months back before I bought my Tripster frame and enquired about he new V2 which had been mentioned at the start of the year by Road.cc, I was told that there wasn't a new version of th frame being released and if there was it wouldn't be until the middle of next year at the earliest.

The bloke then went on to tell me that he'd never seen or heard of a thread on STW about the the Tripster, despite it being linked to on the Kinesis website, and that I shouldn't believe anything I read on the internet!


 
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I'm still pretty pissed off that when I called Kinesis a couple of months back before I bought my Tripster frame and enquired about he new V2 which had been mentioned at the start of the year by Road.cc, I was told that there wasn't a new version of th frame being released and if there was it wouldn't be until the middle of next year at the earliest.

unless you are gagging for internal routing and those extra bosses then I wouldn't worry about it. If you really want a thru-axle just change your rear hub to 10mm and add a DT RWS 10mm skewer.


 
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The reason this page is 70 pages long is that the V1 is a brilliant bike at what was a brilliant price for what you got. I very much doubt the V2 would have done the same coming in at that price.

Interesting reading they have increased the gauge on the V2 downtube, why is that? As that's where mine and DrP's cracked.

Looks like the V2 fork has the same rake as the V1, would be interested to find out if the 12mm axle will stop the brake rub i get.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 2:23 pm
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unless you are gagging for internal routing and those extra bosses then I wouldn't worry about it. If you really want a thru-axle just change your rear hub to 10mm and add a DT RWS 10mm skewer.

I was wanting the internal routing to run Di2. The bolt thru axles I wasn't too bothered about.
Don't get me wrong, I still like my V1 but I'm not too keen on having external Di2 or drilling the frame to run it internally.

Maybe on the next bike 😀


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 3:11 pm
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Well mines done (hope it was the right choice 🙄 )

anyway here you go:-

[b]Spec[/b]

Tripster V1 Frame - 51cm
Full Ultegra 6800
50/34 Chainset
EC70 SL Bars
EA70 Stem
EA90 Post
SLR XP Saddle
King Stainless cages
Shimano Pedals either road or XT if off-road
Hope 20Five wheels with Schwalbe Pro one 28mm Tubeless and 11-28 Cassette

[b]or[/b]

Hope Tech XC with Schwalbe X- Ones and 11-32 Cassette

Weight = 19.5lbs in the slick/20Five wheel build

Here is a 'just finished it and get a quick picky in before it's dark shots'

[url= https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5694/30636029680_efd01d7a99_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5694/30636029680_efd01d7a99_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/NFcEhh ]Untitled[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/17059060@N00/ ]eastham_david[/url], on Flickr

[url= https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5642/22759096118_ac28986e6c_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5642/22759096118_ac28986e6c_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/AF9jmW ]Untitled[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/17059060@N00/ ]eastham_david[/url], on Flickr

[url= https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5524/25301891699_f45a87027b_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5524/25301891699_f45a87027b_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/ExQNU4 ]Untitled[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/17059060@N00/ ]eastham_david[/url], on Flickr

[url= https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5714/22759093968_0813de230e_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5714/22759093968_0813de230e_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/AF9iHS ]Untitled[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/17059060@N00/ ]eastham_david[/url], on Flickr

[url= https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5708/30937699395_66aca20636_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5708/30937699395_66aca20636_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/P8RNbg ]Untitled[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/17059060@N00/ ]eastham_david[/url], on Flickr

So it's mudguards, Rack, lights, pump and Garmin mounts fitted after Tea, ready for the commuting duties

Flame away STW Massive !!!!!


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 5:51 pm
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Short legs, long arms. Do you drive an Alfa as well :0)


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 6:11 pm
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That looks top Vortexracing 8)

Notmyrealname - I don't understand why they told you that - Upgrade Bikes have had it in their brochure since May! I can see why you would be 👿

Why do Kinesis only offer 1 year warranty on their frames, anyone know?


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 8:29 pm
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3 year warranty on Titanium. But then I'd not want to pay £1800 for a titanium frame that is only warranteed for 3 years. Suggests to me that Kinesis arent confident in their product?

Maybe Bikerbruce would care to comment?


 
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2 things wrong with that bike above - the King cages are steel rather than titanium and the bars aren't flared.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 9:22 pm
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Short legs, long arms

yip, it's a nightmare making sure a frame will fit. The stack is the one thing that I need to keep an eye on.

It was the same with my Genesis Equilibrium.

and this Smuggler I have just bought.

Ickle legs 🙁

The Ti king cages are a fortune, hence robbing the stainless ones off my Summer bike.

and the bars will never be flared. 😀


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 9:37 pm
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well guards and rack fitted, plus all the other paraphernalia.

ready for some dark cold 5:45am mornings to work

[url= https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5742/25321334479_b2f26a84cf_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5742/25321334479_b2f26a84cf_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/Ezysyp ]Untitled[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/17059060@N00/ ]eastham_david[/url], on Flickr

and ready for some light touring with some front rollers on next year, when we have those 2 days of summer 🙄

[url= https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5603/30921254516_6616271ff8_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5603/30921254516_6616271ff8_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/P7pvFS ]Untitled[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/17059060@N00/ ]eastham_david[/url], on Flickr

A quick shakedown ride suggests maybe a shorter stem may be in order. Other than that its comfy and silent. Those brakes are very good.


 
Posted : 13/11/2016 5:54 pm
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Bloody lovely bike Sir.


 
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That's ace Vortex, classy build.


 
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[quote=Andy]3 year warranty on Titanium. But then I'd not want to pay £1800 for a titanium frame that is only warranteed for 3 years. Suggests to me that Kinesis arent confident in their product?

Maybe Bikerbruce would care to comment?

I only saw 1 year on the Kinesis website PDF for frames from July 2016:
[url= http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/files/techdocs/FRAME-INSTRUCTIONS-WEB.pdf ]http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/files/techdocs/FRAME-INSTRUCTIONS-WEB.pdf[/url]

But their FAQ says 3 years on all frames:
[quote=Kinesis_FAQ]9. What is the Warranty Period on my product?: [b]3 years warranty for all frames[/b], 1 year for paint and decals, 1 year for accessories such as forks, handlebars and wheelsets. These limited warranties do not apply to normal wear and tear, claimed defects, malfunctions or failures that result from abuse, neglect, improper assembly, improper maintenance, alteration, collision, crash or misuse. Installation of components, parts, or accessories not originally intended for use with or compatible with Kinesis UK frames and components will void any warranty offered by Kinesis UK.

Maybe BikerBruce would care to comment?!


 
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