I'm confused with the road map outlined by our illustrious leader.
What the score with being able to travel further afield for exercise from 8th?
Yeh or neh?
No sadly, quite clear here; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518.
Bugger, got nothing local and getting bored shitless with no riding.
Is driving 25 minutes fair 😂
I get to ride to school everyday, the rest of you don't.
My understanding is that the changes next week mean that some kids go back to school (not all as staggered return for secondary schools) and you can meet one person outside for a coffee. At present you and the one other person must keep exercising (walking / running / biking etc).
From the end of March you may be allowed to travel (a bit) if it doesn't all start going to hell again before then.
As for whether the rules are being stuck to or enforced that is a whole other thread and probably too much bile in all directions.
My only possibly helpful suggestion is to pull out the local OS map (these are free on Bing maps) and see if there is any small chance you have missed one little local bridleway that could be worth an explore. You've probably already sessioned them all to death by now so please feel free to ignore me. I'm just looking forward to a breather from the kids next week!
AIUI there is nothing in law that means you can't drive to exercise - there is guidance to "stay local" but local is not defined, the law just says you need a reasonable excuse to travel. Obviously Rule #1 still applies so a 2 hour round trip is not "reasonable" but a few minutes in the car may pass that test.
My understanding is that the changes next week mean that some kids go back to school (not all as staggered return for secondary schools
Don't know where you are but that's not the case in Englandshire. All kids back Monday
AIUI there is nothing in law that means you can’t drive to exercise – there is guidance to “stay local” but local is not defined, the law just says you need a reasonable excuse to travel. Obviously Rule #1 still applies so a 2 hour round trip is not “reasonable” but a few minutes in the car may pass that test.
That's where we are for now, sadly.
My understanding is that the changes next week mean that some kids go back to school (not all as staggered return for secondary schools)
Don’t know where you are but that’s not the case in Englandshire. All kids back Monday
Up here in NE England the return is being staggered in a lot of secondary schools, I think it depends on capacity to test them all before they let them in.
There's absolutely nothing in law with regards to distance so if it's not in law you CANNOT be prosecuted on those grounds. The advice is guidance only. If you're out with more than one other or not your own household then you'll get a ticket regardless of where you are. The law says you're allowed out for exercise, that's it. No mention of distances, reasonable or not.
That's only going to be for the first week. Most schools round here started getting kids in to test them last week.
Don’t know where you are but that’s not the case in Englandshire. All kids back Monday
The secondaries I know of are staggered start
The large numbers of people I saw putting in or taking out bikes from cars on Sunday when out cycling from home suggests that a large proportion of the population isn't taking any notice of the restrictions.
The large numbers of people I saw putting in or taking out DOGS from cars on Sunday when out cycling from home suggests that a large proportion of the population isn’t taking any notice of the restrictions.
And then standing around having a coffee with their scarves tied in the correct yummy mummy gang style.
I have driven and met up with one other to go for a walk. Can’t see biking with him is any different.
Don’t know where you are but that’s not the case in Englandshire. All kids back Monday
Incorrect as far as my lads school goes, some are monday, he's back on Weds in year 8
Pretty sure Mrs Pondo's mob are all back in on Monday. In-school testing, yay.
That'll be chaos...
The large numbers of people I saw putting in or taking out bikes from cars on Sunday when out cycling from home suggests that a large proportion of the population isn’t taking any notice of your interpretation of the restrictions.
As stated above, if they are exercising alone or with one other person they have not broken any law. We've done this argument to death over the last year, its easy to tut and point fingers (eg 10 or so runners out yesterday but running as a group of pairs) but the real issue is the gulf between the guidance and the legislation which is down to our glorious leaders.
From the end of March you may be allowed to travel (a bit)
Nope, free to go wherever you want for outdoors exercise, as the restrictions preventing outdoor events will be lifted...From the Gov.uk site...
Outdoor sports facilities such as tennis and basketball courts, and open-air swimming pools, will also be allowed to reopen, and people will be able to take part in formally organised outdoor sports.
I get to ride to school everyday, the rest of you don’t.
No, you're right, I get to ride to the surgery everyday instead....
Our lot are doing testing mon-weds then all back on Thurs 11th. All very precise - you have to pre-book a 6min test slot.
Daughter's secondary are going back over 3 days to get the testing done. Eldest 6th form college were open 2 days last week for testing, he has no lessons Monday morning so is getting tested then.
It will be interesting how many asymptomatic positives these tests pick up in the first week, with a looser lockdown than the first one.
Don’t know where you are but that’s not the case in Englandshire. All kids back Monday
My daughter goes back on 15th March.
Bugger, got nothing local and getting bored shitless with no riding.
Nothing? Nothing at all? There's not a lot round here but I have been making do with the canal towpath and some tracks through a local industrial estate. It keeps the legs turning for when I can go to proper riding.
It will be interesting how many asymptomatic positives these tests pick up in the first week, with a looser lockdown than the first one.
the false positive rate for asymptomatic people is something like 90% - so they're going to 'pick up' a lot of people who haven't got it at all.
Good to see the rules are as clear as they've always been
Stay at home. Only go out for essential doing, exercise or medical appointments
Vs
Two people can meet outside to socialise
the false positive rate for asymptomatic people is something like 90% – so they’re going to ‘pick up’ a lot of people who haven’t got it at all.
So if you did 100 tests on people without COVID, 90 would come back positive?
Or out of 100 positive tests from general population (say 10,000 people tested), 90 would be false and 10 real?
I've had a ride planned for flipping ages that I want to tick off but its one way and needs me to catch a train.
I'm fairly sure I could argue myself inside the rules but it'd be nice to not have to. I think I'll just have to keep it for another day / month / year.
the false positive rate for asymptomatic people is something like 90% – so they’re going to ‘pick up’ a lot of people who haven’t got it at all.
You're confusing the false positive rate with the proportion of people who return a positive test who don't have COVID.
So if you did 100 tests on people without COVID, 90 would come back positive?
Or out of 100 positive tests from general population (say 10,000 people tested), 90 would be false and 10 real?
If you tested 1000 people of which 1 actually had COVID but got 10 positive results - including the person who actually had it - then the false positive rate would be 0.9%, but the proportion of positive results that are wrong would be 90%.