Anyone know much about Titus bikes?
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FRTITFTMCARRS/titus-ftm-carbon-frame-and-monarch-shock
Seems like a ludicrous price for a full carbon 130mm full-susser. Looks very similar to a Zesty.
they are cheap because titus went bust.
on-one now own the brand and have promised to do their best to honour pre buyout warranties but nothing is stone clad. i ordered a mega cheap el-guapo from the states but after adding shock and import duties i decided to go for a S/H uk one instead, my dealings with the titus staff in the US were excellent though
pimp tastic bikes though
Yep much cheapness as they went bust and on-one in there fight to contain hotlines ( 😉 ) have bought them up, So are selling off stock cheap to off-set as much of the cost price as possible I imagine.
Nowt wrong with them.
personally i'd be shy of buying a carbon frame with unknown warranty support
mind you at that price.......
not really unknown though as on-one warranty is very good.
I'd be surpised if on one left you high and dry, they want the brand and want it to do well.
Don't know much about the Titus Carbon frames but I ride a Titus X with carbon seat stays and love it. Kind of feels a bit like you're riding a hard tail and then when you screw up on a rocky descent you realise you've got a full sus after all and all is rosy...
I own a Titus Motolite. It's the best bike I have ever owned. However, there are quite a few reports on US boards of failure on carbon Titus parts.
However, there are quite a few reports on US boards of failure on carbon Titus parts.
But we can say that about nearly every bike out there. Christ, even my Turner 5 Spot has had 2 new rear ends and new rockers and a new main frame. Still would buy another*
* if i didn't enjoy my hardtail so much and the speed it brings
But surely the distinction here is that we are dealing with a company which has gone bust with a query over the warranty and availability of replacement parts?
On-One have clearly stated that all Titus frames bought from them carry a 2 year warranty
That's good enough for me
I would at the price they're doing them for. Love my Motolite.
I hope On One keep on with the Titus quality, brilliant bits of kit. Made one of the most stunning bikes I have ever seen a mix of titanium and carbon, beautiful.
Didn't ST mag review that FTM frame?
Might be remembering wrong, but I think they gave it one of those diplomatic verdicts that bike mags do where they say "might be good if you want to grind out the miles".
Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.
Yep, think you're right cha****ng. If I recall correctly the testers weren't too keen on the geometry for mor technical riding. I have a motolite and it's very, very good for big long all round routes. I'd like another cm in the top tube length although I did buy mine second hand so horses for courses I guess.
I had a Supermoto that was the best 4-bar I've ever ridden; lvely, fun, involving all the things a bike should be. The paint, however, was truly shocking, and jumped off at the merest sign of mud. Great ride made up for it. They are a bargain for what has always been a boutique product.
like mildred had a supermoto, brilliant bike great climbing bike and totally engaging, as good a four bar/hl gets on my list would be a titus el guapo, which got a stunning review from stw/benji a while back.
One point to note the carbon FTM sold by on one is fitted with a Rock shox Monarch shock. The Bikes sold in The USA are fitted with Fox shock. I guess on-one aquired all the frames direct from far east carbon frame builder without shocks, so have had to source their own (cheaper) shocks. I have no experience with the Monarch shock so im not saying its no good, just pointing out the difference to US model.
Great Frame price.. Not sure the SLX build for the Titus Carbon X amounts to such as great a "bargain" they make out, when starting with a £1280 frame and fork combo. I struggle to see where the other £720 sheets come from.. I will try 🙂
SLX group set for £280
Avid Brakes for £130
Wheels £250
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opps got there ! yes it is a very good price.. But i still can not help thinking I could do better buying a frame and shopping around, rather than rely on ON-ONE proprietary components..
Got a Motolite and a Racer X. Brilliant bikes.
Rode the ML on a recent trip to Torridon after many months away from MTB and it compensated admirably for all my ineptitude, up and down.
FTM looks like a bargain, though the geometry may be a little tweaked from my 2006 ML.
Monarch is sposed to be pretty good from what I hear. People just "expect" a Fox shock, cos it's got the image of being the best.
Was tempted by one of the Titus frames, but was put off by potential lack of support. I know and trust on-one, but if you break a rear end can you just get a replacement? I guess the same could be said of any small mfr though.
Very tempted by the Rockstar 29er but I think I stick with my head and get a titanium hardtail 29er even if the frame does cost more.
i agree with Bertros on the questionable value of the full build option... i looked at it and just couldn't see the point... if i were going to go in that direction i would buy the frame and shop about to get a good build with maxle SIDs (not qr), Stans Crest wheels, XT group (ideally 2x10 once the new stuff comes out in a couple of months), Ritchey WCS (or Thomson) finishing kit and so on... could probably get close to the On One price with all that with a bit of time and research.
if you break a rear end can you just get a replacement?
On One say they have reached agreement with the previous manufacturers to make and supply frame parts, including rear triangle components so within the two year warranty it should be no riskier than any other bike.
if you break a rear end can you just get a replacement?
If it's a warranty issue, On-One will either replace it or refund me
If it's not warranty my household insurance will take care of it
I fail to see any significant risk
The Rockstar frames shipped today 🙂
I have everything but the forks 🙁
heatset
has anyone found a headset that can use a standard steerer
nope that will not fit the frame
when i use this it gives me a part number etc but can not see any way to order
http://www.canecreek.com/headset-fit-finder
this pdf does not help much in my case
Had a large Motolite for 3 years. Like it, and have ordered an FTM Carbon as the slacker head angle, lighter frame and longer travel will cure all the faults I have with the Motolite. Not to say there is owt wrong with the motolite, just think the FTM an all round betterer bike.
Replacements wise, the new FTMs have cured the "light rail" rear stay issue and I have no worries On One will honour any warrantee issues.
For headset, actually correct me if I am wrong but I think the Evans mix and match choices work for a non tapered steerer:
EVANS
Top
Cane creek
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-short-carbon-top-headset-ec026961
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-short-top-headset-ec026962
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-tall-carbon-top-headset-ec026964
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-tall-top-headset-ec026965
Bottom
Cane creek
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is52-conversion-bottom-headset-ec026972
And Ar$e. As all these are no longer available, but were when I did the search 3 weeks ago. 🙄 😥 😡
Larry I bought my head set from evens they have the separate cane creek top and bottom cups in stock. Use the cane creek code that on one list with the frame. Sorry working of my phone so excuse the crapy copy and pasting but I ordered:
1 EV144440-NA-BLKSeries IS52 Conversion Bottom Headset £22.99 2 EV144429-NA-BLK Cane Creek 40-Series IS42 Short Carbon Top Headset £39.99Delivery: £0.00
They also have an ally top set for a tenner less.
And the one one smoothy won't fit. Nor will an angle set unfortunately
Sory Andy I only ordered mine on Friday and got it yesterday.
Not much conservation for you though bud I know!
No worries Sodajim, sily me for not ordering 🙄
Talking builds I had a set of sun ringle chargers turn up today from cr. Not the latest pros but it looks like the previous model. Not ridden them but initially I don't think I'm that impressed. no rim strips as depicted and brass nips not alloy as listed. Bearings don't feel overly smooth either and the stickers are poop .Shame because sun singles used to be really nice. Any other sugestions? Want light but also want stiff. Replacing a set of crossmax sl's but unfortunately I don't have a crossmax budget at the moment. Must be 20mm axels
ye i have been looking for hours zero stock or joy
nope that will not fit the frame
Are you sure?
This page says it does
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FRTITRKALURS/titus-rockstar-29er-frame-and-monarch-shock
Also, the US On-One guy on this thread says that's what he's using
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=683624
Not sure about the smothie set as I dont think on one list actual sizes on their web site. it could be just a couple of mm's out so it could be squezed in! 😯
frame turned up an hour ago by the way!
just noticed smothie set looks to work for the rock star but it will not fit the FTM Carbon. no no no no no
HHHHHmmmm...
If you look at the kit list on the Titus US site
It specs the FTM carbon with either a FSA Gravity SX, A DX Pro or a Chris King Inset
http://www.titusti.com/2010/bikes/ftm_carbon.php
Not sure about the FSA Gravity SX, A DX Pro or Chris King going by the Titus site they do make a 42mm Intergrated top and a 52 mm Integrated bottom but Im not sure with out one posting the exact size of the smoothie that it will fit. It looks like the rock star has different size cups to the FTM Carbon other wise they would list the smoothie as fitting that as well. I intially bought an angle set before on one posted up the correct size for the FTM ( the intially told me the smoothie would fit) but the bottom cup was a few mm out.
Hi for the FTM Carbon and Carbon X compatible headset details follow this link:
Otherwise I spoke to Jamie at On-One who told me they might have some compatible integrated units coming in soon.
Or you could just order from the US direct via Cane Creek should take no more than 5 days i think. Hope that helps.
Hopefully my FTM should turn up today... like a boy in a sweet shop...
My frame's arrived!
I can't put a fork in it, but it's here. I just ordered a Cane Creek IS52 reducer lower for a 1 1/8 fork. My dealer says Extra UK have none in stock and it could be as much as 3 weeks before they come in. I'll leave the order with them and keep trying On One.
Evans are showing stock of the bottom 52mm half
My Rockstar has landed 🙂
no forks though, so no build yet 🙁
My FTM is here as well. Damn smart. Does anyone intend to Helitape or Biketape their frame before building? If so which would you recommend and should I worry about it removing the clear laquer when it comes to be renewed?
use a hair drier when removing as well as installing it.
Will soften the adhesive when removing. Fit with a hair drier to make it stretch easier so you don't get bubbles and ridges.
I don't bother taping them up
It's a MTB frame, it'll get marked at some time
nine turned up today
local bike shop is going to try and sort me a headset as my struggle to fine one goes on
Hi all, glad your frames are turning up on time, appologies for any of you still waiting.
Just to clear up a couple of headset issues...
The only headset we know definately fits the FTM Carbon (as in we have fitted and ridden it) is an [url= http://www.fullspeedahead.com/products/327/025100_NO42CFACB ]FSA CF-40 No. 42 ACB[/url], be careful here though as apparently there is a non-ACB version that won't fit. We're trying to get stock direct from FSA ASAP and hope to have them on the site within a week. If you fancy seeking out your alternative an headset you'll need make sure it's integrated 42mm top / integrated 52.1mm bottom, (S.H.I.S. Code: IS42 | IS52).
As for the Rockstar, our [url= http://on-one.co.uk/i/q/HSOOSMTAPER/on-one-smoothie-mixer-tapered-headset ]Smoothie Mixer[/url] headset will work, as it will on the Aluminium FTM, but not the carbon. Don't forget the [url= http://on-one.co.uk/i/q/HSOOSMCROW/on-one-smoothie-mixer-stainless-steel-crown-for-15-steerer ]aditional crown race[/url] if you wan't to run it with a tapered steerer though.
Hope this helps.
will it work with a staright steerer ??? ftm carbon
the 40 series cane creek intergrated 42 top, intergrated 52 bottom mixer defo fits as well, mines fitted. just popped my new rev 20 maxeld rlti's in the for fun too! Ive got every thing i need, just in the process of moving house with a stressed out mrs so looks like mines waiting till saturday to slot together, if I'm lucky!
where did you get it from?
hell yes lary! Im working to a budget so bought a straight steererd fork from on one as it was a good price..
evans cycles i'll have a quick butchers for you
at least i would if evans site hadnt crashed right now!!
Lary check here when evens is back on line. Andy posted these links yesterday. i went for the carbon low top with the convertor bottom and they fit a ok
Cane creek
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-short-carbon-top-headset-ec026961
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-short-top-headset-ec026962
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-tall-carbon-top-headset-ec026964
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is42-tall-top-headset-ec026965
Bottom
Cane creek
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cane-creek/40-series-is52-conversion-bottom-headset-ec026972
The Cane Creek IS52 conversion lower is the only one I've found so far that fits a 1 1/8 fork in the FTM Carbon frame. The upper's pretty simple - the top half of any campy headset should fit. I just ordered the lower from Bike-Mailorder.de in Germany as their site is saying 2-10 days whereas the UK distributor is saying up to 3 weeks.
I just bought the bottom crane creek part and a fsa ce full headset from Evans with the intention of a mix and match to get this baby on the trail. I was quoted 9 June for the cane creek headset from the importer. Eh no thanks
Also Koo bikes have a KCNC pt1860 headset that is supposed to work. Mine didn't, the split crown race was spinning around the bottom of the steerer(tapered). Pity that but they have agreed to take it back so at lease thats a bonus.
How does the FTM carbon size up? Looks like it the largest size is a L.
Hi all, just to let you know we now have the headset to fit the FTM Carbon, the [url= http://on-one.co.uk/i/q/HSFSOCF40/fsa-orbit-cf-40-no42-acb-tapered-headset ]FSA CF-40 No. 42 ACB[/url] in stock.
@slowboydickie That's right, the FTM Carbon comes in S, M or L.
@tomhplanetx that headset is for tapered forks only. And £79.95 for an FSA headset!!!!!
"Nor will an angle set unfortunately"
Why is this?
I thought they were releasing anglesets for Tapered and 44mm headtubes?
Or is there more than one 'standard' for tapered headtubes?
The FTM has a 69.25deg HA with a fox 140mm fork, I'm not aware of any (140mm fork intended) bike steeper
"you'll need make sure it's integrated 42mm top / integrated 52.1mm bottom, (S.H.I.S. Code: IS42 | IS52)"
Is this the answer I'm looking for? though I don't know whether those numbers will work or not?
My Rockstar needs the BB threads chased
Not sure if all frames will need this but worth considering if you were planning a build this weekend
i have ordered from cane creek in the USA i just hope they have stock.
if not i am thinking of returning as its a nightmare
My bottom bracket seem fine is the rear Mech and the brake line met to into the same cable pass thro'?
The headset issue is annoying - you should have snapped up the Evans one when I first posted it
Not sure about the cable guides, I'l go look later
EDIT: my cable guides look OK
i should have said front mec share a hole with the rear brake.
I wish i had bought one
Hi just an update fitted the Cane Creek headset at lunch to FTM Carbon & it fitted a treat. Very smooth, top quality and the carbon top is nice & light, but not that obvious its carbon if you can find an alloy one in stock for less. Am hoping the brake and gear cable fit I have fat hope hoses - will paragon tape around the exit holes but am leaving the rest of the frame exposed as the alloy guards should handle any stone chips plus some chainstay pad protectors. I reckon with enough stick the tape could pull off the clear laquer & it looks too good to risk.
Larry,
FSA ORBIT CF40 with a 1 1/8th steerer crown FSA 160 5540 (one one have the headset and can get the crown from Windwaves)
or Balfa for an Across AI 17 both just under £100 though!!!
Nearly built but thwarted by the cable holes through the frame being too small to share a rear brake & gear cable. Am having to change the Hope brake hose to 5mm. Be warned if you have larger or braided aftermarket hoses!!!
got mine up and running know
Anyone that wants to slacken their FTM, as long as you have the headset specs, SAAR at OFANAIM, see link, can sort you out.
I slackened my 1 1/8" Nicolai by 1.3deg.
Most detail is on the website, his communication and service is ace.
www.ofanaim.net