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[Closed] Thule UpRide - thoughts?

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A new roof carrier that takes fully-assembled bikes, but without a frame clamp:
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Cool design, although as with anything new, I'd be worried about it staying put! Thule know their stuff though, so I assume it's well tested. Certainly, it's a pretty innovative idea.

What do you think?


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 1:34 pm
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I know it's not a huge security on the current versions of the 591/598, but there is a lock on the frame clamp. Surely here you could undo the maxle/qr and disappear with the bike?


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 1:39 pm
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Apparently, there's a pull-out cable lock in the back of the wheel track for this, but yes, security doesn't look as good to me either.

Apparently, Thule racks are trivially easy to nick bikes from anyway, so I make a point of never leaving mine unaccompanied anyway.


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 1:41 pm
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Yeah there's videos all over of people still stealing from the popular Thule racks, enough of a twist and force and they'll pop off.

I use a yakima frontloader that I picked up second hand off the forum. I already had two Thule racks, I've since sold one of the Thule's and the other sits in the shed gathering dust as I find the Yakima rack much better. Its a lot more quiet than the Thule and I'm much happier that my frame isn't being clamped. The only reason i dont have two of them and get rid completely of Thule is that I have to have the frontloader on backwards so that I can still open my boot properly, therefore, I can't fit another rack and bike on without the bars knocking together. Some bikes dont play well with the downtube mount such as Evils so the frontloader is a pro at those bikes.


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:17 pm
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Yeah, perhaps the new Thule one will be a better implementation of this design. Personally, I need 4 racks on the roof, so it really can't take any more space than the existing 591s or they won't fit on the roof. I also need to mount them in alternate directions so the handlebars don't clash, so this really means they need to side-load so you don't end up loading over the bonnet!

The 591s probably need swapping anyway, so I'll wait for this to be released and then might have a think then.


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:37 pm
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This just looks a bit closer to the Thule rack that all Americans seem to use (but I guess doesn't get a CE mark for some reason), works for me


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:43 pm
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The lock on thules is a joke, it basically just serves to make owners feel like they've secured their bikes, so that people can steal them. The lock breaks in a second if they can be bothered but you don't even need to do that. It takes longer for you to carefully get your bike off with the keys than it does for a thief to tear it off.

(people don't like it when you discuss security defeats, but here, thieves all know how to steal your bike, it's only owners that don't know)


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:44 pm
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Or just let the air out of the tyres and unslot the wheel from the rack. Anyone relying on security of any bike rack shouldn't be surprised when they return to the car to find their bikes not there, or at least find their bike damaged beyond repair from an attempted theft. If thieves are willing to break into cars and vans to knick bikes they're not going to be deterred by the relatively pathetic defences a rack offers over a cars locks and alarm system.


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:48 pm
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I use a yakima frontloader

Me too. Can fit two on my roof no problem and like that the frame isn't touched. These new Thule racks may be slightly easier to load but not much in it. As for security, I haven't seen any built in security on a rack that looked even half serious.


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 4:38 pm
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When using my Atera racks, I take a d-lock and relatively chunky cable with me that I wrap around the roof bars if I have to stop at services. Only takes a minute.

It wouldn't stop someone with bolt croppers, but would stop an opportunist.


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 5:13 pm
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On the very, very rare occasion that I have to leave the bikes on the roof, I have a 15mm motorcycle chain that gets looped around the whole lot. I guess nothing is unbreakable, but I've still got the bikes, so... ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 01/09/2017 5:40 pm
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It is still not as simple as the Thule Sidearm though. Perhaps the name is a stumbling block on our more peaceful shores...


 
Posted : 02/09/2017 4:03 pm
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With the Thule Upride you will need to hold on until you raise the 2nd loop. I hope the arms are held at specific angles to ensure a safe grip for those different wheel sizes.
With the auxtail rack, [b]18[/b]"-29" wheeled bikes are managed, up to 3"width, and [b]25[/b]Kgs. The ratchet arm has a fixed angle and the 3rd point is also fixed, so there is less chance of an incorrect fitting. There is only the need to ratchet down once on the front wheel, so it's a bit quicker too.
Auxtail rack comes with a 2nd rail and fixes to a flange towbar at the moment. We will be a the cycle show so please visit and try it for yourselves.[img] [/img]
[url= https://auxtail.com ]Auxtail rack[/url]


 
Posted : 06/09/2017 10:51 am
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Auxtail looks interesting, but sadly has a couple of big drawbacks for me:

1. I need something I can use with a caravan (hence my general use of roofracks)
2. I've not had a flanged towbar for years ๐Ÿ™

Interesting idea though. Any thoughts on a roof-mounted version?


 
Posted : 06/09/2017 12:20 pm
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Hi Daern,
Must say, I hadn't really considered it.
No reason not too.
I just think the rear is an better place to access, and less fuel burn. A lot of people leave racks on their cars, which still eats fuel. All that good work on reducing carbon footprint is up in smoke.
We are going to be at the Cycle Show. Please drop in at F69
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Posted : 08/09/2017 5:40 pm
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Shame that auxtail won't fit on a standard towbar


 
Posted : 08/09/2017 7:17 pm
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Is that what they call astroturfing?


 
Posted : 08/09/2017 8:45 pm