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This is fun - how much extra does your MP get?

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This is a fun little exercise...

https://news.sky.com/story/westminster-accounts-search-for-your-mp-or-enter-your-full-postcode-12771627

My red wall MP (Jenkinson) is in the top 6% of 'additional income'... which was a bit of an eye-opener as most of it was 'gifts' from some random bloke. Not even public speaking or a 'book advance'.

How much does yours get?


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 11:38 am
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I gave up. The site is horrible, doesn’t work in landscape and what’s with the Topsy and Tim slideshow?


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 11:42 am
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Google the "random bloke"  I'll bet my house its a legalised bribe from someone who wants something from him


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 11:48 am
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The three donations, gifts, payments and other benefits [Anna] McMorrin has declared so far are worth the equivalent of approximately £2,390.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 11:52 am
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I'm astonished that my MP, Theo Clarke, is in the bottom 26%. A £5000 donation from JCB is her biggest, and considering the factory is only 15 miles away is understandable.
She's a Tory, the niece of Jacob Rees Mogg, and pretty much invisible around here. I'd always assumed she'd be raking it in.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 11:54 am
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@tjagain The guy is a 'local made good' but who now lives on Cornwall. The amusing bit is he apparently supports local food banks etc whereas Jenky is on record as saying locals swap vouchers for drugs... Not an obvious fit 🤣.

But good enough to give an extra £67 0000/yr as a gift...


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 11:55 am
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About £45K for mine (Newbury). Top 26%. Donations from previous MP and Sir Chris Gent (ex-Vodafone CEO, local to Newbury as it was founded here). £10K from a property development company, that looks the most dodgy.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 12:44 pm
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71k for mine (top 15%), Aaron Banks being one of the donors, but JCB is the biggest one (Andrea Jenkyns)


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 12:52 pm
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A mere 14 grand for my ex-Conservative now Indy MP. Looks like he likes being taken to cricket matches.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 1:16 pm
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Zero for mine much to my surprise as I have a very low opinion of her.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 1:17 pm
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No 2. Geoffrey Cox, £2.1 million.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 1:18 pm
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This link goes straight in avoiding Sky (and cookies).


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 1:20 pm
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Mary Robinson, Cheadle. £15000 puts her in top 50%. So average, must try harder.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 1:26 pm
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Isn't gifts mainly to support them as the tory candidate, i.e. going into the local funding for them, rather than going into their pockets?


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 1:29 pm
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Mine is Sir John Hayes (South Holland & The Deepings)

The 61 donations, gifts, payments and other benefits Sir John has declared so far are worth the equivalent of approximately £349,800

Sounds like a lot!!


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:04 pm
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My tory MP has declared £10k, which is bottom 40%. Half of that was from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Bahrain.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:16 pm
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Robert jenrick - total of £10,340 so he's in bottom 40%.
Two sources - Bahrain foreign ministry and Ambitions Personnel - which suggest he's either indiscriminate or needy.
I'm very surprised he's taken or been offered so little.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:21 pm
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Bottom 22% for mine (Graham Stringer), not bad... mostly from Ipsos Mori & YouGov, anyone know why they'd be paying out to MPs?


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:21 pm
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@frankconway we're constituency buddies


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:23 pm
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Alan Campbell in bottom 19% though I was lost trying to work out what that actually meant 🤷🏼‍♂️


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:26 pm
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Only £7k for my Tory MP, including a £2k donation from a local industrialist and philanthropist who lives up the road from me. I think Damian Hinds is one of the few who's not in it to line his pocket (at least yet).


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:32 pm
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Tom Tugendhat, £289,400. In the top 3%.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:50 pm
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My MP just seems to spend his time filling out surveys for YouGov at £200 a pop.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 2:55 pm
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Toby Perkins, only 16.5k, doesn't seem a crazy amount.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 3:03 pm
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Thanks Slowoldman that’s marginally better.

The two donations, gifts, payments and other benefits Ms Trevelyan has declared so far are worth the equivalent of approximately £15,000.

Surprisingly low until you check her surname and the wealth of her ex.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 3:20 pm
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Dan Jarvis. Top 6% in one of the
more deprived areas of the country. £210,000. Hmmm. He was doubling up as mayor of Sheffield and surrounding area for a few years. Never answered my query on how he could do both jobs without spreading himself to thinly.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 5:40 pm
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1/4 million for Wes Streeting.  corrupt as hell


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 5:45 pm
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Rishi Sunak's had a hundred grand off "Chris Rea" - assume not "that" one, as he's a leftie isn't he ?
Why the **** would Rishi even bother his arse pocketing that little a bung? 🤪


 
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Mine is top 31% Tory. But he's rubbish, couldn't even get on the news as a "body bag",
Seems to get £10k a year from the same guy though.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 6:09 pm
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I was lost trying to work out what that actually meant 🤷🏼‍♂️

It means that we the average Brit are screwed.They can engage in what some term as corruption, because they write those rules for themselves to suit themselves.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 6:50 pm
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Pauline Latham, 3 declared totalling £2,370, £1660 from an all party committee on malaria? Few hundred from Ipsos Mori, a couple of hundred from the nice golf course/hotel that is just down the road.

She might be an idiot, but I never thought she was in it for the money and I appear to be correct.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 6:54 pm
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My local gammony Tory is ranking a cool £3000. Must try harder.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 7:07 pm
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Angela Raynor 300 grand, I would like to know where that money go's. She has never struck me as someone who would just pocket it so I assume that it is given for a reason other than enhancing her lifestyle, but it wouldn't shock me to find that it did.


 
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Angela Raynor 300 grand, I would like to know where that money go’s. She has never struck me as someone who would just pocket it so I assume that it is given for a reason other than enhancing her lifestyle, but it wouldn’t shock me to find that it did.

Based on what assumptions? Every politician is about self promotion


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 7:34 pm
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£300 from Royal & Ancient Golf Club for Sir Roger Gale.


 
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Angela Raynor 300 grand, I would like to know where that money go’s. She has never struck me as someone who would just pocket it so I assume that it is given for a reason other than enhancing her lifestyle, but it wouldn’t shock me to find that it did.

Again, looking at the numbers, apart from £1600 earned from broadcasting, the rest is donations from unions, companies, etc who are pretty much labour supporters, i'm pretty sure this is for supporting the labour office in the area, re-election costs, etc, rather than in the back pocket.

As you say, i don't see her pocketing any of it, i can see her using it to pay for staff for labour activities outside of MP claims.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 7:55 pm
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Top 8% for mine, John Stevenson Carlisle MP. £115000 in total.
I can't put into words my experience of the man.


 
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I've got Stephen Doughty (Labour). Only big ones are from the GMB and The Musicians Union, both for £4k. A decent amount of £1-200 ones from the British Army and a few randoms, noting that looks dodgy or excessive IMO.

More surprising is that his £16k total puts him in the top 49%, thought the average would be higher than that.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 8:45 pm
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Is Raynor still deputy leader?  IIRC the leader and deputy do have extra expenses but is that not reflected in the allowances they get?

I'd be prepared to bet that she does benefit from some of that indirectly if not directly  by not having to spend her salary and wages if nowt else but my guess would be that much of it is used to employ folk to deal with constituency matters as she will have little time

its a fairly obscene amount IMO.  I haven't looked into who the companies are


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 8:56 pm
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£2550 for my local Tory MP, Nigel Huddlestone. Far less than I was expecting.


 
Posted : 08/01/2023 10:13 pm
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What a hideous effort of a webshite.

Mine's another one that got donation from JCB. Nowhere near the JCB factory afaik, but it does have Diggerland.
Also 10 grand from Lord wotsit of Watford.
The rest seems to be mainly from the brewing/pub industry.


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 8:14 am
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£10k for my SNP MP. Disappointed to see the biggest donor is a pretty horrible religious group that have campaigned against LGBT rights, abortion, stem cell research.

The others are different organizations representing countries. No idea why a Scottish MP needs donations from Qatar, Israel, San Marino and Switzerland 🤔


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 8:28 am
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Wasn't the JCB owner a big advocate of Brexit? Could funding from JCB be funding for political support of that project?

Again, looking at the numbers, apart from £1600 earned from broadcasting, the rest is donations from unions, companies, etc who are pretty much labour supporters, i’m pretty sure this is for supporting the labour office in the area, re-election costs, etc, rather than in the back pocket.

As you say, i don’t see her pocketing any of it, i can see her using it to pay for staff for labour activities outside of MP claims.

But if we are "happy "to make that assumption about Raynor, we should also give others from differing backgrounds the same benefit. This is why this is such a bad piece of journalism, without knowing what the donations are for and were spent on it is really just gossip and insinuation.


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 9:09 am
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Wasn’t the JCB owner a big advocate of Brexit? Could funding from JCB be funding for political support of that project?

yes and yes


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 9:15 am
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I can't stand Raynor.  However I have never seen any evidence that she is corrupt unlike say Streeting who clearly is IMO


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 9:20 am
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JCB/Brexit backhanders are very likely to be a thing.
My MP was the one that contested as a Tory on a presumably non-Leave ticket against the Tory to UKIP defector in a by-election before the referendum.
And then promptly defected to a "we must back Brexit" ticket herself.


 
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I gave up. The site is horrible,

It won't even load for me as I didn't consent to them filling my browser with cookies. Oh well...


 
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Slightly surprised my MP Lisa Nandy is in the top 3% - but then again she is a potential future Labour leader and pretty influential on their policy.

Mostly sums of a few thousand here and there from unions, but with £20k-odd from the Ministry of Sound - which is odd because her brief is "leveling up" not house music 😀


 
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Mine, Ruth Edwards, seems to have learnt to jump on the earning train quite quickly. Having had the misfortune of working at the company that is her biggest benefactor and knowing what a nasty piece of work the owner is doesn’t enhance her reputation


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 10:34 am
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1/4 million for Chris failing in my area.. oh yeah, a nice amount from a port!!


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 10:55 am
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Hiya all,

You can all be happier not living in a Lame Fox constituency. Heck I knew he was a scumbag but this has highlighted how bad he really he is...
BR
Jerry


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 10:59 am
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Mine is Leicestershire's answer to Tim Nice But Dim Edward Argar.

The only thing he has declared is a £300 gift from Lord David Brownlow.

This seems suspiciously honest!


 
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This is why this is such a bad piece of journalism, without knowing what the donations are for and were spent on it is really just gossip and insinuation.

Some might consider that good journalism, or at least good value journalism. Most of what remember about the parliamentary expenses scandal 13 years ago is wrong  - but the telegraph crafted their exposé with some fact and a lot of inference and what remember about deckhouses and moats wasnt quite what we think it was.


 
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What a surprise, my MP is some scumbag called Rishi Sunak. £540k. Of all the people who needs not a single extra penny, its that slimeball. Unfortunately I live in old-fogey land, so he'll get re-elected next time round without so much a ripple. Hopefully to the opposition benches.


 
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Its worth noting if you go through the Tortoise's methodology - MPs have to declare income. As part of that declaration they can state that they are passing that money on - as a charitable donation for instance. But they don't have to declare that they've given the money away, only that they've received it.

So although MP's will typically declare that they've donated a payment where that is whats happened - its possible that some, out of modesty, won't have done and would prefer it look like they trousered more money than they really have. So in their figures, in the interest of fairness,  Sky / The Tortoise as disregarded all declared charity donations so that it looks like everyone trousered all the money 🙂


 
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My MP Thangam Debbonaire does fairly well - £7k, putting her in the bottom third, most of that being from the Musicians Union (she was previously a professional cellist, was a shadow minister for the arts, and does a lot of campaigning, so that makes sense).

My old hometown MP is Daniel Kawczynski, a man so crooked he claimed £22,000 in expenses for Polish lessons. Despite the fact that he is Polish and it's his native language. His largest benefactor was an American billionaire who coughed up £160k. He's not even a minister. God knows what he's up to now.


 
Posted : 09/01/2023 7:37 pm
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Zero for mine much to my surprise as I have a very low opinion of her.

just think for a tiny sum you could be her no 1 donor, her favourite constituent and she’d have to dance to your tune!


 
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Like a puppet on a chain?


 
Posted : 10/01/2023 8:08 am
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My MP (Richard Drax) has a large amount £60k from his own company. Maybe a tax dodge?


 
Posted : 10/01/2023 8:20 am
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Allan Dorans - nothing
my old address Marion Fallows - nothing


 
Posted : 10/01/2023 8:38 am
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Michael Gove.... £325,000 including £100,000 from Zachariasz Gertler - a German/British property magnate.... now there's a surprise (not).


 
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Mine - the Speaker of the House £2800 total - reasonable, but not sure why he's taking money from Qatar

£1800 from Unite

£1000 from Qatar Racing and Equestrian Club (Qatar Ministry of Sports and Culture) and the Embassy of the State of Qatar


 
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Was just about to post about Gove. Surprised he's not sponsored by a Colombian though, or perhaps that's not declared.


 
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Apologies if I'm being spectacularly dim here, but does this money end up in their own pocket as "earnings" or is the money spent on "something"?


 
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It depends.
A lot is contribution to campaigns/office running. So not directly in pocket but does help them get the nice job.
There are also the "fact finding" trips staying in a decent hotel and the various sporting/cultural events which are a direct benefit to the person.


 
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Top 9% here, £149,000 to Bim Afolami of which £70k is from some random landscape artist from Hammersmith (Oliver R M Maughan) which seems a bit arbitrary but there you go. Some more was from the local Portcullis Club, searching for which accidentally let me to the local Conservative Party web page where they promise that 'your priorities are our priorities'. Somehow I don't think that's true.


 
Posted : 10/01/2023 10:22 am