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Any ideas? A small amount of waterproofing would be nice, but not essential, as I have an Endura w/p and prefer to layer when it gets really grotty.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 9:34 am
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HH velocity jacket
or any schoeller fabric


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 10:03 am
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assos
rapha
northwave
castelli


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 10:36 am
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assos
rapha
northwave
castelli

Quoting random company names really isn't helpful, but thanks for the effort.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 10:38 am
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I have an assos winter jacket which is very good, I also have a rapha one which is ok (but not as windproof), I also have a northwave one which is good for cold riding (but not if it involves stopping), and my SO has a castelli jacket which is excellent.
Random names? - not really, however, I don't know what the jacket model numbers are because I don't work in IT and its not important to me.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 10:49 am
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Gore Phantom (very warm)

Endura Stealth (fairly warm)

both fairly waterproof but warm when wet in any event.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 10:52 am
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I have a blue winter jacket which is very good, I also have a red one which is ok (but not as windproof), I also have a black one which is good for cold riding (but not if it involves stopping), and my SO has a pink jacket which is excellent.
Random colours? - not really, however, I don't know what the jacket model numbers are because I'm an estate agent and I'm a c@ck.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 10:55 am
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I work in engineering and I don't know jacket model numbers, should I?

Endura Flyte's a gud en if you layer up, sorry, don't know the model number, I'm not in IT or estate agency.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 11:02 am
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Gore Phantom works well for me- windproof, water resistant, but will wet out in heavy rain. Removable sleeves, very breathable, easy to layer with a base and/or full waterproof as necessary. I'm happy in most conditions with it- windproofing minimises reduces the windchill dramatically- I'll normally only put on a waterproof in the heaviest or coldest rains. I'll wear one of these from all bar the hottest days of summer through the winter.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 11:10 am
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" I don't know what the jacket model numbers are because I don't work in IT "

I do work in IT and I don't know them either 😉

I would say that anything made from Gore Windstopper would be a good place to start. There are probably other fabrics that do the same, but I' have had good experiences with that. I think the fabric is more important than the make. I think Assos have something similar call Airblock, but that is going to cost a bomb, as is Rapha but it may be worth the investment in the long term if you're going to use it a lot.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 11:14 am
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In my experience with insulated jackets full windstopper is not breathable enough and a mixture of windstopper (or other similar trademarked fabrics) at the front and fleece or similar at the back offeres the best mix of keeping warm against boiling in the bag.
I bought my assos airblock jacket + bibtights at the end of the 90s and still use them every year - they work really well and have been extremely good value.
The rapha winter jacket isn't windproof enough (for me) but works quite well as an autumn jacket.
The northwave winstopper jacket is good if you're doing a fast ride with no stops but doesn't have enough insulation if you do need to stop for any length of time.
I tend to buy things in shops so don't know what they're called or model numbers so for me I just have a jacket made by [insert manufacturer] rather than a specific named item.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 11:23 am
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I have a cheap windproof but no extra warmth jacket (cost I think £30) and a lightweight berghaus fleece (cost £15 or so in a sale, and has lasted 9 years so far, I think it was the least warm one they did).

Most of the time, I wear a windproof and a jersey at most. If I have to stop, I'll stick the fleece on too. I think I've also ridden with the fleece on for a whole ride maybe once or twice a year. Even up Scottish mountains in February in the snow, I've found myself a bit warm with a the very light fleece + a long sleeved jersey. Warmer goretex type jackets feel a bit nicer for the first 10 minutes of a ride before I start heating up, but then I just have to take em off or else I get sweaty (and don't start me off on the joys of 'breathable' jackets and the way they never do anything once you start sweating).

Joe


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 11:26 am
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Another vote for Gore Phantom. Warm but not hot and versatile in a number of conditions. I couple mine in winter with a light waterproof shell for when it pisses down.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 12:08 pm
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I wear a Rab Baltoro Lite softshell when it's really cold, coupled with a long-sleeved Icebreaker 200 merino base layer.

The softshell was half price, hence buying it, but it's a really decent jacket. Polartec Stretch, it breathes quite well.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 1:24 pm
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I bought a gore fusion jacket last year and was really happy with it all through last winter. In fact I can't wait to start wearing it again. Its very, very waterproof, windproof and breathable and nice and cosy too.

[i]The rapha winter jacket[/i]

What winter jacket are you on about. Rapha don't do a winter jacket, do you mean the softshell? If you do then it's a great jacket but not waterproof at all. It is warm though.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 1:44 pm
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Gore Phantom here too, worn it in the coldest conditions with just a thin base layer and it's fantastic. Seems to have a wider range of comfortable temperatures too - I've already worn it on a couple of night rides and not been too hot.

Also have the Aldi Crane Bike softshell which is brilliant for dry but cool weather.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 1:48 pm
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I am just about to hit "buy" on one of [url= http://road.cc/content/review/9063-altura-night-vision-evo-jacket ]these.[/url]


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 1:59 pm
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Got the old altura nevis jacket free with a what mtb subscription, and I'm glad I didn't pay for it. Not breathable in the slightest (and I'm not a sweaty type), not very waterproof and pretty poor quality all round.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 2:03 pm
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I was up here (taking the photo) in on and off snowstorms (back of Kinder) in my Endura Stealth and thin baselayer and was absolutely fine, even though I'd been sweating profusely from earlier climbs.

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Posted : 05/10/2009 7:32 pm
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Endura Windtex - very impressive, was cheap on CRC this time last year.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 8:01 pm
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Gore Phantom here and looking forward to getting it out for its third winter.
I don't think I've ever had anything on under it, either!

There is a medium MKII for sale on RADAR now - brand new.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 8:11 pm
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Alright, it's not called a jacket but a [URL= http://www.rapha.cc/winter-jersey-08 ]jersey[/URL]


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 9:45 pm
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Stealth is nice as it's waterproff too :O)

And don't buy Black like I stupidly did as drivers won't see you.


 
Posted : 05/10/2009 9:53 pm
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I have a Gore Tool Windstopper which works very well in almost all conditions except heavy rain. One of the best winter purchases I've made.


 
Posted : 06/10/2009 8:26 am