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[Closed] The New MK3 Cotic Soul to Replace my Mk 2 – Loads of Piccies

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Really nice despite the excess of chainrings! 😉

I think the new head and seat tubes were a wise business decision - I bet a fair proportion of Souls are sold to riders who've bought a mainstream full-sus but later decided they'd like a really nice hardtail instead and thus buy a frame and swap the components across - tapered forks now fit as do all the different dropper posts. I won't be changing mine though!

My previous generation Soul weighs under 27lbs with a fairly burly build (though 1x10) - could easily knock off weight with less huge tyres, skinnier rims, shorter forks, no dropper post (folly IMHO!), etc...


 
Posted : 17/06/2012 11:19 pm
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really nice, making me have doubts about the new bfe, just wanted to know does the frame have dropper post guides?


 
Posted : 17/06/2012 11:28 pm
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Yes it does have dropper cable guides.


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 12:09 am
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Cheers, now to decide gorgeous green Bfe or the new soul in Orange!


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 12:12 am
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Cheers, now to decide gorgeous green Bfe or the new soul in Orange!

What I really wanted was a gorgeous green Soul 🙄


 
Posted : 18/06/2012 6:30 am
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On the weights, my small soul 2 is also 25.3 lbs. This is weighing every part individually when i had time on my hands before kids 😳

Spec is:

Arch rear, Arch EX front, both with pro 2 evo
1X9 XT Cassette, jump stop, bbg bash
XTR mech
charge spoon and thomson
Elxir R 160/185
Reba QR
SLX double & bash 170 cranks
Superstar nanotech flats
2.2 XR4 tyres
XT shifter
711 bars and easton haven am stem.

Lighter tyres and small changes in spec and it has been 23.7 lbs


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 11:25 am
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Lovely build, although the frame definitely does lose a little something visually with the fat seat tube. (Maybe I'm biased, would like a dropper on my own Soul....)


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 11:31 am
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It looks diferent in the flesh, not quite as chunky. Its a lovely bike, if I was in the market for a hardtail this would be what I would get now


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 11:36 am
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Vortex: got a link for replacement chainrings for those cranks? The RaceFace site has them as 120mm BCD, and I'm buggered if I can find replacements for my Truvativs, which are also 120mm BCD.

http://www.raceface.com/components/cranks/next/next-sl-2x10/


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 11:43 am
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Lighter tyres and small changes in spec and it has been 23.7 lbs

I've got 23.4 lbs for a small 2011 Soul, SRAM X0/X9 2x10, Rocket Rons tubeless on Stans Crest, Reba maxle 15mm, rigid Ti post. That's about as far as I can go without spending stupid money (Mrs JG is saying I already have ...).


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 11:45 am
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Makes me wanna ride my (2004) Soul again. Which has been gathering dust since Mayhem 2010.... 😳


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 12:04 pm
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That's really nice that is.


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 12:07 pm
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Vortex: got a link for replacement chainrings for those cranks? The RaceFace site has them as 120mm BCD, and I'm buggered if I can find replacements for my Truvativs, which are also 120mm BCD.

CRC are doing the Race Face Turbine ones at about £80 ish

[url] http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=51888 [/url]

much cheaper than XTR !!


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 1:19 pm
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Thx yes I found them too, panic over.

Tempted to those carbon cranks ...


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 1:21 pm
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I've got 23.4 lbs for a small 2011 Soul, SRAM X0/X9 2x10, Rocket Rons tubeless on Stans Crest, Reba maxle 15mm, rigid Ti post. That's about as far as I can go without spending stupid money (Mrs JG is saying I already have ...).

I rekon with a set of SID's (15mm) I could get into the high 22lbs


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 1:27 pm
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My new Rebas are 1650 grams, what are the SIDs?

Those carbon cranks would get me under 23lbs just, as my current X9s are 1850 grams.

(but I'm also at the point where light enough is light enough, not being a billionaire and all. I don't even race.)


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 1:42 pm
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Nice. Glad I can't afford one of these - deciding whether to go for old-fashioned skinny beauty or fat-tubed dropper-friendliness would almost certainly drive me bonkers 😕


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 2:07 pm
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My new Rebas are 1650 grams, what are the SIDs?

The new SIDS are just above 3lbs with a 15mm Maxle.

The cranks inc BB weigh in at 630grms.


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 2:53 pm
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Google says 3lbs = 1.36kg, wow.

You may as well drop the Flows for Crests and get light Schwalbe (RoRo pre-2011) tyres, you'll be knocking on 22lbs then.

Madness!


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 3:13 pm
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Just doing some numbers and

Save 0.6lbs with the fork (SID 120mm WC)
Save .22lbs by buying some Ritchey V5 pedals
Save .22lbs by using a 2.1 Rracing Ralph instead of a 2.25 on the rear
Change the Pro2 355's to Pro3 355's
and put some EC90 Bars on it

and It should be in the high 21 lbs easily 😆


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 5:00 pm
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Are the bank notes in your wallet arranged by value?


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 5:06 pm
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That lot won't come to a fortune, if I sell the existing stuff.

and

Yes 😉


 
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