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looks like he may need a new helmet too..
aye, no need for the helmet smashing,
His money would have been better spent on a super strong wheels and a tough aluminium hardtail. He would then have a lot smaller outlay on a replacement stuff and still would be able to develop his skills.
That would be a huge drop on a hardtail!
Also he’s got a fullface which is good to see but they aren’t necessarily cheap.
Only rich people should try and protect their face! He's probably prioritised a full face from the limited funds which is probably a very good thing seeing as he's sending pretty hard
I'm not going to donate but that's because im tight and selfish and have no connection to it but the comments here are annoying. It was clearly set up by a friend rather than himself and i've been in a similar situation as a kid. To suddenly have no option to pursue the sport and activity that keeps you sane, excited and engaged is a massive thing - who knows what the situation is, it could take him a year to be able to get another frame.
How old is this lad? He looks bigger than me ,could he fund a bike from a Saturday job?
He should send the video to You've Been Framed. There's my £250 idea 🙂
Not 20' bit massive none the less. Wouldn't expect the bike to snap.
Intense did have a rep for making fragile frames, didn't they?
Should've stuck with a good old fashioned 2005 Kona Stinky IMO.
5yrs is a lifetime for a big rig.
aye, no need for the helmet smashing,
Must have needed to due to the big balls situation
This coincidentlaly came up on a FB page, that bike having read around, has a reputation for being a bit flimsy. That said, looking at that different vid where it's been done easily on a trail bike, i can't figure out why the intense just folded like that. There wasn't anything particualrly bad with the huck, i've done similar on hardtails before now (show off), and on very big bouncy bikes and i cant see why it would have done it based on the way he jumped. The only thing i can see from the 2 videos, is that he's landed it off-camber this time round, and the motion of the swingarm has exasperated any lateral movement it may had as a design flaw and gone beyond it's breaking point (obvs)..
I'll come back to the point around reputaion - "1 season frame" is mentiioned a few times..
i can’t figure out why the intense just folded like that.
Because it was likely already cracked
Daft bastard!
Here you go a side on view of the drop. It's a fair old huck and definitely not a marked part of the trail system. I eyed it up and thought nah not for me!
Watch the head bob as he lands! Incidentally the drops were there and ridden before it had surfaced trails. Some of the old DH lines and drops are still there off the side of the highest part of the red trail.
When he broke the bike he landed ALOT further forwards so basically missed his landing i reckon! He's done it before an landed it like a peach.... it's an easy way to get a new bike for sure.
Get your mates to film it, knowing you might hurt yourself and then whack a gofundme up and see who falls for it.
There's a church opposite me, might just huck it off the first floor roof... being honest only Sam Pilgrim would probably actually do that!!
That’s not a brand new bike.
Just to be clear - he's not claimed it was (at least not in what I read), that was me mis-speaking. It was new to him.
Get your mates to film it, knowing you might hurt yourself and then whack a gofundme up and see who falls for it.
Serious or trolling? Do you always assume everyone's a ****?
Another point - he didn't set up the gofundme himself. Someone else did.
As for 'there are more worthy causes' yes there are, and I give much more to them.
Not an expert, but isn't it the swingarm that snapped ?
Are replacements available ?
Unusually for me, threw £10 at it - was won over by the GfM bit written by his mate.
Isn't this one for Brant: "I was just riding along on this second hand out of warranty frame that you didn't make, and it broke..."
Just to be clear – he’s not claimed it was (at least not in what I read),
You may wish to re-read
We are trying to raise some funds to help out with one of riders we all know. As most have probably seen the video by now on Saturday (17/10) after doing a jump at Leeds bike park emre's bike snapped, this was a brand new bike that he'd had for a day.
I mean, everything was brand new once, but this may be stretching a bit...
Laddo has just jumped off the highest point he can find into the quarry. My sympathy is limited, to be honest.
Those who never make a mistake never achieve anything worthwhile.
Practically huck to flat on a several years old second hand Intense dh bike, ballsy but dumb a f , are we sure this is recent, who wears chain wallets these days 😂.
Haibike seem to send Sam Pilgrim a bike every other week, maybe he could step up, wont cost him a penny and would make good content for his channel.
Not donating, dont know the kid sorry.
Looking at those vids, it's a hefty leap but I am surprised a fairly modern DH bike catastrophically failed like that - I don't think of 2015 bikes as "old". So that's unlucky and I'd be peeved too. Best outcome is Intense sell him a replacement frame for whatever the go fund me thing raises, bit of PR in it for them, if the guy still wants an Intense 🙂
I’m not going to donate but that’s because im tight and selfish and have no connection to it
Very fair comment.
bunged some in. Kid's got some balls and some skill, deserves some help.
Can’t believe everyone is giving him crap on a bike forum for:
* Doing a pretty epic drop.
* Landing better than most of us here would.
* Cleary not landing flat or doing anything close to what you see on rampage / YouTube edits promoting these frames.
* Not taking stupid risk - looks like he’s cleared the same drop before.
To me it simply looks like he purchased a bike from the time frames were transitioning from alu to carbon. Many from this time were basically cheese. I was hit myself.
The lesson to learn is simply 100% don’t by any 2013-2016 carbon frame for stuff like this.
Or
Don’t buy any carbon frame second hand unless it has transferable warranty.
To me it simply looks like he purchased a bike from the time frames were transitioning from alu to carbon. Many from this time were basically cheese. I was hit myself.
Never heard of that before, carbon frames have been around waaaaay longer than that.
The lesson to learn is simply 100% don’t by any 2013-2016 carbon frame for stuff like this.
Or
Don’t buy any carbon frame second hand unless it has transferable warranty.
The 951 is Alu.
Meant into mainstream for DH / Enduro.
Didn’t realise the bike was actually alu though! Guess you are never safe without lifetime warranty from co that actually stands by it...
Guess you are never safe without lifetime warranty from co that actually stands by it…
Bet most companies would claim that (the lads huck to flat) was crash damage and not warranty-able.
Guess you are never safe without lifetime warranty from co that actually stands by it…
Lifetime warranty doesn’t mean the manufacturer will replace, no questions asked.
Perhaps the local bike social enterprise will hook him up with a more suitable brand of bike.
Can’t believe everyone is giving him crap on a bike forum
Are we though? A couple of folks have perhaps done that but pretty much everyone else has just said there is no way they'd donate money to a random kid off the internet who has broken his 5 year old bike, having hucked it off a massive cliff.
I'd wager that hundreds of kid break their bikes in the UK every single day, albeit perhaps not in such spectacular fashion. I'm struggling to see what makes this case any different!
I'd certainly not criticise anyone for donating, it's their cash. I just find it bizarre that anyone would.
Perhaps the local bike social enterprise will hook him up with a more suitable brand of bike.
Say what now?
I've respect for him - that's a big old drop.
I however fall into the "that's life" camp. Just like crashing a car or loosing a valuable item.
He looks well able to earn some money - my kids have done paper round at £16/wk since they were 13. That's £800+ a year. By 16 the older two were at the local hotel, clearing £600+ a month while at school. Guess why eldest has a £2k+ Radon and could afford to travel to Alps for 6 weeks - it wasn't my money or some online donation.
I’m not donating to a new frame either, had to do 2 paper rounds for a year on a BSO to get a proper MTB at that age 😂
The kid should try and get Intense to sponsor a rerun on their latest model..
I just don’t think he deserves any negativity for trying to clear a drop like that.
I contributed. It's a personal decision. I can afford it.
I however fall into the “that’s life” camp
It is. But just because it's life, doesn't mean people can't be randomly kind occasionally, does it?
Fascinating how people are approaching this differently - which is why I started the thread, actually. I mean when it's genuine charities, there's no real moral argument not to donate, and we're used to that. So some are framing it in that context - he's not genuinely in need, and this is true, he's not, and there's zero obligation to give. But on the other hand, he's plucky and talented, and this gets respect from some people; he cannot *easily* afford a new frame and arguably the one he has should not have broken. So why not chuck the lad a fiver if you can? It's like tipping a waiter or giving a quid to a busker cos you like their music, isn't it?
Not donating, dont know the kid sorry.
Thanks for letting us know.
It’s like tipping a waiter or giving a quid to a busker cos you like their music, isn’t it?
Not really no..
Respect to anyone who chucked some cash in but I’d be more inclined to help if he’d had it stolen. That said, totally gutting for him and his parents and hope he gets on something more robust soon.
Life’s a biatch, innit.
Not really no..
Fascinating.
Christ this place could argue with itself couldn't it! If you want donate, do it. If you don't, great, it's your choice. End of.
I mean props to the lad though, I wouldn't drop that! I've done one of the blacks there, but keep bottling the others. Ive only got a hardtail though......
Ive only got a hardtail though…
Ok ok we will buy you a bike too.
Fascinating
Apologies, but I didn't think such a ridiculous analogy deserved any further comment than that..
He might be a nice lad like the go fund me page claims, although it's hardly gonna say different, on the other hand the kid could be an obnoxious bellend so it's hard to judge if he's worthy of a donation, can anyone vouch for him on here.
I was expecting a scrawny 14 year old. He could easily make the money for a new frame working the doors of a nightclub at the weekend. How old is he?
He’ll be wanting the British public to fund him a new helmet too, after he chucked it at the ground in a peeve😂
I pringled my mavic 217 aged 16 back in the day.I saved up. Same way I'd saved up to buy it aged 15.
I'm with the fair play for having a go camp. Going full josh bender on an old intense that's commitment
Again if he'd been mugged that's different.
