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[Closed] The GMBN vid in which lad breaks brand new bike

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Apparently at an unofficial Leeds bike park. It's a good effort and ballsy but he overshoots it and lands nearly flat.

Apparently, they aren't well off and his mum had saved hard for the bike, and he ****ted it on the second day. There is a gofundme to chip in for a new frame.

https://gf.me/u/y5jaxu

You can decide if you think it's a worthwhile cause or not - debate below...


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:33 pm
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unofficial Leeds bike park

I've only been once but its here, isnt it?

https://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/are-you-prepared-for-the-worst/


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:37 pm
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I think so, but it's not that incident.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:44 pm
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Does he overshoot it? Looks like it’s still quite a slope when he lands - and you’d not want to come up short and clip your back wheel on a drop that size!!!

Old fatigued frame? Already cracked? Too light a spring or faulty damper so it bottomed out too hard?

Brave and pretty skilled rider!


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:47 pm
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No, it's brand new apparently. I mean it's foolish, but we've all been there haven't we? Ok perhaps not that far off the ground...

I can't tell what bike it actually is.

I wonder if it gets enough publicity the company will stump up a warranty replacement?


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:52 pm
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It’s an Intense 951 from 2015. Not new!


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:56 pm
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No, it’s brand new apparently.

New to him 26" Intense it seems.

Lucky to ride that one out.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:57 pm
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Its at Leeds Urban bike park, a proper trail centre. The drop he's done isn't one of the official trails, Laddo has just jumped off the highest point he can find into the quarry. My sympathy is limited, to be honest.

It's an Intense 951 I think, not one of the current line up.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:58 pm
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951 intense. Probably about 5+ years old, so not an ancient pos. Unlucky, these things happen.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 12:59 pm
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No, it’s brand new apparently

where do you get a brand new bike with fox 40's for £1100?


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:01 pm
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Poor lad...bunged him a tenner


 
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Ok, he must've got it second hand, that makes more sense.

Laddo has just jumped off the highest point he can find into the quarry. My sympathy is limited, to be honest.

Yeah it'd be a shame if your ability to progress talent were to be limited by your socio-economic status wouldn't it......?


 
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Laddo has just jumped off the highest point he can find into the quarry. My sympathy is limited, to be honest.

Gotta agree. He did a huge drop and busted his frame. Not really seeing why he deserves a free bike out of it.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:09 pm
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Does he deserve one? No. Does he have a right to one? No. But can't we just be nice to someone just because?


 
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Yeah it’d be a shame if your ability to progress talent were to be limited by your socio-economic status wouldn’t it……?

Building a landing would help his progression no end.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:13 pm
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Yeah it’d be a shame if your ability to progress talent were to be limited by your socio-economic status wouldn’t it……?

Tory voter?


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:13 pm
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But can’t we just be nice to someone just because?

There are a zillion charities that would be better to give money to than a random kid on the internet who broke his bike jumping off a huge drop. Why does everyone think that every little mishap in life requires an online donation to make right?


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:19 pm
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Its at Leeds Urban bike park, a proper trail centre. The drop he’s done isn’t one of the official trails, Laddo has just jumped off the highest point he can find into the quarry.

Seems my comment has backfired. I thought I was pointing out that it was an official feature at a trail centre, and therefore reasonable to expect that a modernish DH bike shouldn't be snapping while doing it. Kind of the inverse of the guy that snapped a cotic rocket at Revs.


 
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Torn on this one slightly.

I have sympathy for the parents having saved up to get him the bike but without knowing the kid himself it's hard to find sympathy for him. He basically hucked his new toy of the biggest thing he could find then broke it. It should come as a life lesson in the value of things, like most of us have had to go through. I was well aware that my parents scrimped and saved to buy me a new bike back when I was 12, a basic Apollo but it was the best they could afford. I trashed it in 3 months by basically ragging it everywhere and not maintaining it. I had to wait until I had saved up my pocket money to go halves on a new bike for christmas and birthday (they're 4 days apart) the next year for another Apollo but this time a bit further up the range. That bike was most definitely the best cared-for, maintained and mollycoddled Apollo in the country as I then knew how much effort it took to afford it and what the consequences were if I broke it. It was still going strong 5 years and 8,000 miles later (had a CatEye computer on it!).

If this kid has already been taught that lesson before and this is a genuine 'bugger' moment then the GoFundMe is fine but if it's just a way for him to get another bike he can break trying the same drop again then it's a waste of a chance to learn that life is tough.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:31 pm
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I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that bike would cope with a landing like that, it’s big but it’s not rampage size! I bet that bike wouldn’t have snapped if it was brand new.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:48 pm
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I thought I was pointing out that it was an official feature at a trail centre,

Nah, that's between a black (steep run in, to 4ft verticalish, not rollable, drop to steep landing, which is on the riders right as he puts the bike down) drop, and a red steep roll down to the quarry bottom. He's just dropped off the side of the quarry, to no landing, not flat but not far off. He's got bottle, but any idiot can ride off the edge of a cliff. he's very lucky to have not been seriously hurt, as many have been doing the 4footer, never mind hucking 20ft to flat.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 1:51 pm
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Josh bender would approve 🙂


 
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Theres no law which says you can't ask for money and you're not compelled to donate.

I really can see theres an issue here one way or the other


 
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Nah, that’s between a black (steep run in, to 4ft verticalish, not rollable, drop to steep landing, which is on the riders right as he puts the bike down) drop, and a red steep roll down to the quarry bottom. He’s just dropped off the side of the quarry, to no landing, not flat but not far off. He’s got bottle, but any idiot can ride off the edge of a cliff. he’s very lucky to have not been seriously hurt, as many have been doing the 4footer, never mind hucking 20ft to flat.

gotcha. I recognised it - badly it seems - and thought he'd just gone in far too hot on one of the official features and landed it to flat.

I've been once, (in the rain, alone, and on my hardtail so I) didn't do the black drop. Kind of forgot about how cameras shrink everything so actually a massive drop he's done in that video.

If he'd had a 5 year old bike that he'd owned from new, and broke it like that then that is a definite suck it up moment.

That it happened on his first ride on it is either spectacularly unfortunate, or the seller knew it was duff and offloaded a lemon on an unsuspecting kid of limited budget.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:04 pm
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Theres no law which says you can’t ask for money

Can you be economical with the truth in asking? That's not a brand new bike.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:05 pm
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Suck it up im afraid..

I remember saving up for a skateboard when I was younger..about 14. Popped an olly down a large set of steps, board snapped in 2 on landing. 60 quid was an awful lot of cash for a 14 year old back in 1990.

I can't remember anyone running a charity drive to buy me a new one.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:08 pm
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I can’t remember anyone running a charity drive to buy me a new one.

So? Why does anyone care what people do with their money. If people want to help out the kid then why the hell not.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:11 pm
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That it happened on his first ride on it is either spectacularly unfortunate, or the seller knew it was duff and offloaded a lemon on an unsuspecting kid of limited budget.

Genuine question as I don't know..is a bike breaking having experienced that kind of landing that surprising? I'd agree with you if he'd just ridden a table top or something, but he not, he's hucked 20 foot pretty much to flat.

If I did that to a brand new bike and it snapped I don't think I'd be all that surprised, let alone something 5 years old.


 
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So? Why does anyone care what people do with their money. If people want to help out the kid then why the hell not.

I don't care in the slightest what people do with their money. Why did you get that impression?

I was simply stating what others have said, it's a pretty unworthy charity cause. Doesn't mean I give a shit if you donate to it or not


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:15 pm
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Genuine question as I don’t know..is a bike breaking having experienced that kind of landing that surprising? I’d agree with you if he’d just ridden a table top or something, but he not, he’s hucked 20 foot pretty much to flat.

<in my opinion only> only because its a DH bike. Break an enduro like that and I'd agree with you.

Having watched world cup races and rampage and hardline (from the safety of my sofa) I beleive that a DH bike should be capable of surviving anything that the rider can - that's almost their raison d'etre now enduro bikes are such capable descenders.

^the above written by a mincer who is happily aware his trail bike exceeds his abilities


 
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“<in my opinion only> only because its a DH bike. Break an enduro like that and I’d agree with you.

Having watched world cup races and rampage and hardline (from the safety of my sofa) I beleive that a DH bike should be capable of surviving anything that the rider can – that’s almost their raison d’etre now enduro bikes are such capable descenders.

^the above written by a mincer who is happily aware his trail bike exceeds his abilities”

Seconded!

I’d also say that I’d expect the wheels to fail on a DH bike before the frame does.


 
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only because its a DH bike.* Break an enduro like that and I’d agree with you.

You see I'd expect Semenuk to ride that** out on a 10year old bso road bike.
I'd snap a V10 rolling a curb.

The frame isn't going to fix the rider being rubbish.***

* a 5yr old DH bike is likely to have been riden hard and "well worn" by now
**based on description of where it is, I've not watched the video as it's through Facebook
***being ballsy/dumb enough to do something should in no way be confused for having the talent or skills. The kid might do but there's three minutes of video on PB every Friday illustrating that being willing does not equal being capable.


 
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Balls aside - I thought his technique was spot on, everything looked great and composed up until the landing

The bike shouldn't have broken from that

Feel sorry for him, hope he gets sorted out and back sending it soon

(but my god, I could hear my 40 year old ankles cry watching that)


 
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looks like he may need a new helmet too..


 
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Donated. Fair play to the lad, I've eyed the drop up a few times but never had the balls to go for it, mainly because of how precise you have to be with the landing.

Lucky to walk away from that one!


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:40 pm
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Video of him doing the same drop a year ago, smooth as you like. He just overshot it in the frame snap video


 
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***being ballsy/dumb enough to do something should in no way be confused for having the talent or skills. The kid might do but there’s three minutes of video on PB every Friday illustrating that being willing does not equal being capable.

You might wanna watch the video.

The guy does a really ballsy move and rides it well. It was a big huck, but it's certainly not 'to flat'. The back end folds in half yet he still rides it out with the wheel parallel to the ground. Good skill.

Whether or not he deserves a new frame is a different question, but to suggest he was reckless and unskilled is plain wrong.


 
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Fair plays, he rode the drop well, just slightly overshot it.

I'd probably argue that shouldn't write off a DH frame, though I'd have expected a pringled wheel or two.

I mean these things happen when you send big stuff, but I do have some sympathy for the lad.


 
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There are a zillion charities that would be better to give money to than a random kid on the internet who broke his bike jumping off a huge drop. Why does everyone think that every little mishap in life requires an online donation to make right?

Worded perfectly


 
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I just sent him a few quid. It may not have been the smartest move but it is a lot of money for his family and he seems to have bigger balls than me to attempt that.

Besides, a kid of any age on a bike is great and it means they are outdoors and enjoying themselves which I approve of.


 
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I have sympathy for the lad and it’s a hard lesson to learn, but risk management isn’t just about reducing potential harm to you - but also the hardware too...

I wouldn’t buy a used DH bike - let alone a 5 year old one. Even if I did, I wouldn’t chuck it down that drop.

His money would have been better spent on a super strong wheels and a tough aluminium hardtail. He would then have a lot smaller outlay on a replacement stuff and still would be able to develop his skills.

For me this isn’t an essential thing, so my willingness to donate that to a stranger is a bit limited. It’s not as if he was a contributing part of our community here - or is he...?


 
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Just looked up reviews of that frame on mtbr. The first three say “tends to crack if ridden hard”😂
Feel sorry for the lad... I too have looked at the 4 foot drop at the quarry at lubp and not ridden it...


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 3:11 pm
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I won't be donating, parents get him a bike and he does that with it? The black drop there is big enough. Also he's got a fullface which is good to see but they aren't necessarily cheap.
Leeds is local to me and massive kudos for having the kahuna's to try that but that was never going to end well taking a bike that old and sending it like that...

Consequences of being young if you ask me


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 3:49 pm
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If he's done it before was he on the same bike, as if so it clearly stood up to being landed correctly first time round.

Don't get me wrong I have sympathy for the lad, but the predicament is entirely of his making. Just as if he broke his leg on a trip to the alps, I'd have sympathy for him, but I wouldn't be chipping in for his medical bills ..

As an aside, the lad clearly has big balls and great skills, no question about it..


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 3:58 pm
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Some of those old Intenses were built to be light, strong enough to last a season of racing and not much more.


 
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