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[Closed] Tapered headtubes - why?

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I was looking at the 2010 Giant Faith but have had to rule it out because of the tapered headtube (I have a 1.5in Totem I want to use).

Baffles me why manufacturers would limit the fork options like that, especially on what is quite a hardcore bike.

What are the advantages of tapered headtubes then? All I can think is marginal weight saving and being less likely to bang your knee on the stem.


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 11:08 am
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In the main it seems to be a way of making the front end stiffer and allowing a larger weld contact area. In theory at least it should be stronger but there are plenty of strong normal tubes about.

Oh and of course it looks nice!


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 11:16 am
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the majority of the force is taken by the lower part of the steerer and the lower bearings, there is little need for a 1.5" bearing/tube at the top so tapering it saves weight.


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 11:47 am
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Also, doesn't a conical steerer resist torque better han a cylindrical one?


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 11:55 am
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Bikes have got so good that manufacturers need to invent something new every year to plant that seed of 'want/need/desire' for next years bike.

Show me the independent science that proves the oversize bearings make a shred of difference.

It'll soon peter out like 29" and singlespeed as a pointless exercise.


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 11:56 am
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people said the same about external BBs

and they are GREAT* in comparison to square taper

*this is sarcasm


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 11:57 am
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they did try the 1.25" evolution headset once but it died out after a couple of years. Had that on my Funk and a number of Manitou frames.


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 12:21 pm
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Bikes have got so good that manufacturers need to invent something new every year to plant that seed of 'want/need/desire' for next years bike.

But nobody can be looking at a tapered steerer tube and fretting that their old fork is now obsolete, can they?

The weight difference must be miniscule on the actual fork. Perhaps a shade more on the frame and stem (compared to 1.5in).


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 1:17 pm
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In the main it seems to be a way of making the front end stiffer and allowing a larger weld contact area.

I was meaning by comparison to 1.5in rather than 1 1/8in, or did you mean tapered is supposed to be stronger than 1.5 too?

Bikes like the new Faith and Trek Scratch seem to me to have ruled out a lot of potential customers using these.

the majority of the force is taken by the lower part of the steerer and the lower bearings, there is little need for a 1.5" bearing/tube at the top so tapering it saves weight.

Yes, this makes sense, but I just suppose I'd rather have the flexibility of a 1.5in HT.


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 1:21 pm
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You get the stiffness of 1.5" and can use 1 1/8" stems (which you can get shorter too)

Though for a freeride bike I agree it would be better to have a 1.5" headtube, and have a 1.5" cup at the bottom and a 1.5" to 1 1/8" stepdown cup on the top if they want to use a tapered fork and still alow people to use 1.5" forks


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 2:37 pm
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Has there actually been any independant test done to prove that a tapered steerer is "stiffer" than a normal non tapered one?


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 4:31 pm
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you don't need independent tests, its simple science


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 4:33 pm
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Tapered headtubes. Hmmmm looks like the mountain bike scene is catching up with the roadies.


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 4:51 pm
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It gives you the strength/durability in the lower race of a 1.5" with the stem choice of a 1" 1/8. But really all they did it for was to add another new standard.

New standards drive the industry and spawn product churn, simple marketing.


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 7:43 pm
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on carbon steerers, the taper gets rid of a stress riser at the corner


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 7:51 pm
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chakaping is there not a sleeve you can buy to fit over
your old forks and insert into head tube?


 
Posted : 07/11/2009 8:19 pm