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[Closed] Surprised the new "Shed Fire" frame isn't being ooh-ed and aah-ed over

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Is it shedfire, Shed Fire or Shedfire?


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:37 pm
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Haven't seen it thats why 🙂 Is it white?

Shedfire.co.uk redirects to On-One! LOL didn't Brant do something similar to Dialled bikes years ago? 🙂

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Posted : 09/03/2009 7:44 pm
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Posted : 09/03/2009 7:45 pm
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Just found it Mike. Nice drive-side chainstay plate going on...the middle arm is bent in and acts as a chainstay bridge. Sweet.

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Posted : 09/03/2009 7:47 pm
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is it for proper 29 sized wheels.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:49 pm
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Shedfire.co.uk redirects to On-One!

Oh yeah 🙂
Whoops.
That was me doing that before though. I've changed it now (will take a while to propagate I imagine.

More pics of the chainstay here:-
http://twitpic.com/1ykh4


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:51 pm
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head angle looks a bit steep, what's that then?

I see a gearbox, go on, tell us more!


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:52 pm
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Nice solution Brant. Whats with the Nuke Proof bars on your site? Nuke Proof...now theres a name from the early 90's!

Have you had a look at osbikes.com? Specifically the geometry with rigid forks? It should not work...but it does 🙂 I love mine!

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Posted : 09/03/2009 7:52 pm
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head angle looks a bit steep, what's that then?

Lol! I see what you mean though.

We're carving a 67.5deg angle on there Mr Nutt.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:53 pm
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removeable cable guides eh?

I may ask for royalties... 🙂


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:54 pm
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Whats with the Nuke Proof bars on your site?

I designed them, Lynskey made them, Nukeproof are going to sell 'em.

As for geometry, well, I'm definitely going slacker rather than steeper this year.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:55 pm
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Was busy ooooing and ahhhing on Twitter. Do like the look of it personally.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:57 pm
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As for geometry, well, I'm definitely going slacker rather than steeper this year.

You heard it here first; slack is the new steep 🙂

Ti bars? Should not flex too much with that centre section. Who owns NP now? I guess its gone like "Onza"?

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Posted : 09/03/2009 7:57 pm
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Ti bars? Should not flex too much with that centre section.

Early test reports indeed say "stiff". But 227g, lifetime guarantee and 710mm width. £200 though 🙂

Who owns NP now?

Come on now. Do your homework. It's not hard.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 7:59 pm
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Come on now. Do your homework. It's not hard.

Well I'm at home so don't have works resources to hand...plus I am leaving the bike trade in 4 weeks for a cushy desk job 🙂 Might get to ride my bike more! Hotlines?

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Posted : 09/03/2009 8:01 pm
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Hotlines

Hotlines don't own Nukeproof.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:02 pm
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Hotlines don't own Nukeproof

http://www.bikebiz.com/news/27573/Hotlines-and-MTB-Distribution-merge

Im confused....


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:04 pm
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Hotlines distribute it, hence my question.

I was guessing that someone bought the brand name and started badging stuff up and shipping it over.

I could be wrong.

God I am looking forward to a nice simple, non-machiavellian job in the civil service!

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Posted : 09/03/2009 8:07 pm
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non-machiavellian job in the civil service

bought a suit then?
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Posted : 09/03/2009 8:09 pm
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looks alot better than those on ones. whats the point of setting up another bike company why not just release that under the on one brand?


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:09 pm
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I think tails might have missed a few threads...


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:10 pm
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bought a suit then?

No planning on wearing my SSUK / Cars-r-coffins / OFS t-shirts, jeans and Vans Old Skools 🙂 IT dept so we are locked away from the public 🙂


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:11 pm
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[Thread hijack]

Nevermind that young lad Brant, come over to my thread and tell me if the tic tac colour scheme 'works' or not? A kinda fashion thread. I need it to 'work' as my Summer season needs the Pikes back 😀

[/Thread hijack]


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:14 pm
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I think tails might have missed a few threads...

It would seem so, I don't click on half the threads I used to, to much repetition and misery, strangely considering i just said on ones are ugly I do like your ti one, in the photo thread looks like a good set up.

so what have I missed.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:16 pm
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[b]Frame?[/b] I like certainly. [b]Price?[/b] I dislike almost certainly.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:20 pm
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Mr Richards has parted company with Planet X Bikes (owner of the On-One brand) and set up shedfire: a cosy little copmany in which he can design things for people etc etc. His "press release" is at the bottom of this page http://www.shedfire.com/


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:21 pm
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Frame? I like certainly. Price? I dislike almost certainly.

Ditto. Assume that it's a Ti frame?

(And therefore gonna be outta my budget!)


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:22 pm
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Frame? I like certainly. Price? I dislike almost certainly.

Steel and Aluminium versions coming soon too! Same geometry and detailing. Few tweaks here and there.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:23 pm
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and patiently in leeds..................................................


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:25 pm
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Tony - it's coming, I promise. You wouldn't want me to rush it 🙂

Besides, I've not heard more on your beast either.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:27 pm
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But who owns Hotlines..?

😉


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:29 pm
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beast??


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:30 pm
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For those of you who havent guessed, hotlines bought the rights to lotsof brand names and gets stuff with that brand name put on.

Oh and Hotlines is "owned" by Chain reaction.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:31 pm
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Mr Richards has parted company with Planet X Bikes (owner of the On-One brand)

oh right so ya never owned it anyway and just designed for them, nice one good on you. i'll have a read of the press release.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:32 pm
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that looks like a rather nice frame, far nicer than any on-one IMHO


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:36 pm
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hotlines, ah hence the Intense connection. I always thought CRC must have bought them through a grey channel but it looks like a great way to dispose of older lines/odds and ends. The seat stay bridge is probably a nod towards the offspring of Todmorden/Hebden with their webbed-feet and hands 🙄


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:47 pm
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Only bit I don't like is the seatstay bridge.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:50 pm
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Yeah, that plate makes it look cheap. What's wrong with a little tube?

Some interesting little features, although can't quite see the point of some. That chainstay bit looks very good for collecting soil samples, as does the seatstay plate.

What's with the little holes? Are they to screw guides in? Why not have them welded on?

I preferred the DeKerf style wishbone.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 8:57 pm
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i imagine that most of the Qs about why things are different on the frame can be answered in one word - cost


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 9:09 pm
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What's wrong with a little tube?

I just wanted a little bit of bracing/weld area increasing at the top of the stays, and have an aversion to throwback frame design features which only hang around because people think they're needed.

Some interesting little features, although can't quite see the point of some.

It's essentially a double diamond frame. It's not going to be terribly ground breaking, but I am pretty pleased with how it's come out.

That chainstay bit looks very good for collecting soil samples, as does the seatstay plate.

We don't have terribly bad mud up here, but to be honest, until I've checked it over I can't be sure, but I can't think of many bikes with bigger mud clearance.

And when I look at the mud clearance between my front tyre and brake bridge on my Revelations, I wonder why I go overboard.

What's with the little holes? Are they to screw guides in? Why not have them welded on?

That's right. Well deduced. They're not welded as it saves around $10 per cable guide to do it that way. Which adds up.

I preferred the DeKerf style wishbone.

The Ti456 continues, as far as I know, but as I didn't even design (or redesign) that, and with it being such a part of the on-one character, I left it there. It's also really expensive to make.


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 9:14 pm
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And when will we be able to get a steel/aluminium frame without a 6-months-long delay? Will you give us a decent price (us, as in "those who have bought an on-one and raved about your genius 😉 ")?


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 9:15 pm
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i imagine that most of the Qs about why things are different on the frame can be answered in one word - cost

Not really.

That chainstay plate is tremendously expensive, as are the dropouts. Mark Lynskey offered me a 15% cheaper frame if I used their house dropouts and a conventional chainstay design.

Though, yes, my rivnut cable guide save a bunch of cash (which let me do fancy things with the chainstay and dropout and get it out for the same sort of cost price).


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 9:16 pm
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And when will we be able to get a steel/aluminium frame without a 6-months-long delay? Will you give us a decent price (us, as in "those who have bought an on-one and raved about your genius ")?

Everything has gone up in price, but the steel frame is heading off to SGS for CEN testing this week, and the alloy hardtail next week.

Pricing for those is very competitive.

We're looking at production Mid May (chromo), Mid june (alloy)


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 9:18 pm
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Are these Lynskey made and do we have a ballpark price range yet?

I keep looking at the houseblend 29er they are doing and reckon they will come in at a good price when they are imported, will this be cheaper/better?


 
Posted : 09/03/2009 9:18 pm
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The Ridgelines are great frames. I expect to have these on for a very similar sort of price.

To confirm - yes - the ti frame here is Lynskey made.


 
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