I had an idea, Skiprat could meet us at different stages of the ride and bring hot drinks and cakes.
Cheers pal......
He'd be like a support car. He could bring me spare parts. And carry my big screwdriver.
It'll only be a week after the op, i don't know if i could cope with the weight of all those parts 😉
I'll see how i'm feeling and might pop along to say hello
We can just push up that footpath next to the Beast. Its short and sharp and breaks no rules. Seemples.
Any out playing this Sat?
Bloody computers playing silly beggers this morning 👿
That will be your newly possessed hand skiprat. Has it been ordering mankini's and pron?
Ps. What are the conditions around there at the moment? I was thinking of taking tomorrow off for a spin.
sorry for yet another route related question pook! when you say the roman road, do you mean potato alley or heading in the opposite directon as in turning left at the top of the beast or turning right?
ta!
Its got a mind of its own!!
Might be out on saturday Ladybower way. Just need to check a couple of things first.
Been nice and dry the last couple of days, suns even been out!! Think snow showers and sleet are due thurs night/friday so we'll just wait and see how bad they are!!
I might be out this weekend just gotta check the wifes rota
sorry chaps I can't join you on this one. Me and the kiddies will be watching the missus hurtle around in a rally car near Loughborough
slowrider -turning right and heading towards hope.
Yet again I wont be able to make this 🙁 I'll be in Scotland biking/climbing Ben Nevis and stuff 🙁
Proper gutted as I love these rides!!
can't make it either 🙁
but then I am biking in the lakes that weekend 🙂
gah - regulars dropping like flies....
terrible ain't it 😥
Looks like no Peaks ride for me tomorrow 🙁
Had a baby?
it was muddy but fun on monday hora, not much snow around ladybower and win hill area but could see loads over kinder, cut gate etc.
Exactly. I was going to ride the Kinder Circuit and noticed on another thread that Jacobs was iced right over.
FFS. I'd love to ride Penmachno but a 4hr drive is ridiculous.
I might be in, I'll see.
Would need to gaurentee good weather as the bike won't fit in the car with the roof up!
Why not go down the beasts brother(roman road heading north) and back up the beast to make it a loop? The Beast is overated IMO, can be ridden absurdley quickly, resulting in a 50/50 chance of a trip to A&E, or as most people do, very very slowly for the fist straight before letting off the brakes for the second.
i prefer the beast to potato alley
We did the beast on one of the last peaks pootles. We're thinking a loop up the mystical ladybower climb that only wizards and the honoured know ;o), as a return up to the roman road from the bottom of the beast.
Blame Hora.
Maybe I'm getting confused (been a couple of years since I lived there)
What are the the options from hope cross?
I thought it was (from jaggers clough)
Turn right and eithe rgo down screeming mile or right to the end and down towards Bamford.
Straight on for The Beast
Turn left and there was a longer faster decent? Or was that potato alley and the other decent I'm thinking of was the one down to derwent water.
I'm completely wrong, can't remember the differecne between hope cross and the top of hagg farm, dam hills and resevoirs all look the same!
Tell you what, turn up on the day and we'll show you
😀
bylaws are exactly that, laws made by the council.james - As in, is there anything other than that line on a council website, something that shows it in law rather than just that. It strikes me as odd that the council just decide the law?
there are quite a few tracks that you could use through those woods to the NW of Ladybower but the legality of them is unclear to say the least, i'd not be too happy taking a bunch of people up them.
Podge, there's one trail up the south side of l'bower, used by us in a big group before on the green light from a local who informs me it's landowner permissive. Also it a couple of guide books.
Nw of ladybower you're right. Cheeky to say the least.
i'm in.
fair enough, (re bylaws)
Just had a look on streetmap. The 25k map shows it as a footpath and a permissive bridleway (for the main drag up .. )
beast to potato alley
Tell me more..
yeah james - i think there's about a 25m section between the two b'ways that's a FP.
beast to potato alley...remember the top of the beast hora? you go left rather than down.
Its quite good that bit- longer than the Beast but not better IMO.
Slowrider means down the beast, push up the footpath then down Potato Alley? (I can't get my head round the logistics of that)
not so sure about a push up the beast, how about up hagg farm?
I'm gonna make a map with all these silly names marked on so we all know what we are on about
I've just had a letter through about possible surgery, so might be on crutches by the 27th. So if I'm not there don't think me a wimp.
So if I'm stood at hope cross with Jaggers clough behind me, the beast is straight ahead with a bit of a left turn arround the wall before it drops to the gare before the track begins for real,
Going right takes you back into Hope or Aston via the roman roads.
What's on the left? Is that potato alley?
If so, surely the best route is down potato alley, upp the farm road opposite (back in the day I used to climb that on a 38t single ring and maxxis 2.35 high rollers! No wonder my knees FUBAR!), allong the top to Hagg farm, down Hagg farm, back allong the road, possibly via 'house of pain'/cuthroat bridge if the grounds solid enough, before scooting allong the road to Edale and the cavedale loop?
What is this with surgery and Pootles? Over-self pleasuring hand surgery, exploding appendix 😯 and another..
Slowrider means down the beast, push up the footpath then down Potato Alley? (I can't get my head round the logistics of that)
fail 😛
i mean down the beast, up hagg farm, turn round and come back down hagg farm, then up pooks secret permissive bridleway.
i only mentioned potato alley as i got confused myself. i though pook had found a way to link the bottom of potato alley up with hope.
Spoon- it's been considered, but I'm trying to limit the road miles. Plus I fancy the drop down hope brink 🙂
Hagg farm descent via rowlee farm is an optional loop, then yes, up my mystical ascent.
I can't create a path from hagg to hope, despite being generally brilliant 🙂
Podge - looking forward to this map....
I will come up with a definitive route soon enough. Keep suggesting/tinkering etc 😉
slowrider ah!
Anyone want to buy a set of almost new Pike 454 coils?
Oi horacek, classifieds you cheeky sod 😉
Oh, err oh. Dont set Christine onto me!
Unless I have the beast in the wrong place then there's an obvious loop
This phone is too small to type it out so I'll try do it when I get home.
Hora sell me your SC
SC? Never!
I've got a loop already... I'll post the photo of it later
will definitly make this one, no bloody valentines guff and trailquest event is the weekend prior, so its on!
its always the same with these pootle threads, Chris plans a route and everybody wants to change it! 😉
I'm in for this one .
i am happy to ride whatever, just not a big fan of pushing back up stuff unless its a dh day! but i will bow to the masses
aiming to avoid it bobby
I'm in but could I suggest an addition/improvement to the route? We could add on a loop over to and around Sheffield then back again to the Beast.
if we did that you'd come to close to my secret cake stash.
what's happening tomorrow? yesterdays email just made it more confusing
bad news. i can only make it if you lot are comfortable with a 15 year old, fellmarvin is at a fell race that day, so he cant come :(:(:(
[we've had a word with slowrider about this -mod]
im not sure if you are being serious or not :S
"down the beast, up hagg farm, turn round and come back down hagg farm, then up pooks secret permissive bridleway"
(As pook hinted at above) you'd better going down the beast, head up the valley following the water channel, up rowlee farm, down hagg farm, down the valley on the south side of the reservior, then up the permissive bridleway (ie all used on a ride in early december), then either down to the roman road and down into the back of hope, or down hope brink into aston. Going through hope then across to aston should use much quieter roads (rather than the more main road into bradwell for much longer)
Sambob Im sure we could figure something out. I was worried about legalities (responsible adult) but Pook could fit that criteria.
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Yeah sam we'll look out for you
Pook makes me uncomfortable. Theres just something of the night about him
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The way I see it sam, you've been on a couple of our rides - you know the way we do things, how to prepare and what to expect. As long as you're happy to look after yourself alongside the rest of us, I (and I suspect most others) are happy for you to come.
I for one wont leave anyone with a broken bike etc either.
The code of Mountain bikers 8)
I think the fact that he's asked and not just turned up unaccompanied shows the fella probably has more sense than a lot of us anyway.
im deadly serious sambob. its the eyes.
😛
did your mini camera thing turn up yet? mine came yesterday, probably wont get chance to try it out till tuesday though.
just got an email from stw saying someone found my above post offensive. apologies to sambob that it didnt come across as intended, you seemed like a decent lad on the last ride and id be more than happy to have you along as im sure would everyone else who has ridden with you before. i was just pulling your leg.
sorry!
that may, or may not have been my fault, i've taken to reading STW on my phone and i've lots count on how many times i've pressed the report-post link by accident when scrolling. sorry
it wasnt me that reported you, and i didnt find it offensive 🙂 im gonna get some spds for my birthday (a week today :D) and see howi get on with them. so i may or may not have some shoes for sale by then if anyone is looking for some size 10's.
sambob- back the screws on the spds right off and ride on the road on them as much as possible. I hated mine when I first tried it. Now I wouldnt be without my Shimano DX's.
what size do i want for size 10UK?
Size 44. You really need to try them on first though as you might find one size actually fits better. I had to fit shoe inserts into my Specialized Sport MTB spd shes as I had heel-lift (like snowboard boot slip) to ensure I had a snug fit.
Also- have you bought your spds yet? Shimano DX's offer a stable and confidence inspiring 'trainer' spd for nervous first timers.... I binned two sets of standard spds before I came across DX's. Ive been on the same DX pedals/bearings for the past 4-5yrs.
13 years on my dx too,they weigh almost as much as the rest of my bike but the new ones are much lighter and I find being clipped in much better for power. you just need to think ahead slightly ready to clip out when you first get them then its second nature
where can you get dx's? i couldnt find any on crc. and how much are they? i fear they might be out of my budget.
i fear they might be out of my budget.
Honestly speak to your Dad on these (he'll hate me for saying this!). Its worth the outlay as they will last years.
Some may disagree but for me- its the perfect 'learner' spds that are also make great DH'er spds for better riders. Basically you are entering a technical section and dont want to be clipped in with one foot- you can rest your foot on the plastic cage whereas normal spds you are 'perched' precariously/contact point pivots in a way.
Slowrider, i never actually got round to it 😆 might get one for my birthday 😀 theres 2 presents sugested by the STW bunch 🙂
late to the party,never been round that bit of country side anyone have some idea of the start point and and the route please a gpx would be smashing
A gpx? we need a route first and if this group of old women keep debating it it's going to be the 28th before we have one!
When i get chance I'll do one dale
lol 😳
Sambob
you can get those pedals that Hora suggested from Decathlon for £27.95
Thay are good i`ve got some.
" new ones are much lighter "
They're still 568g and cost £45+ wheres M520s are 380g and can be got for as little as £18 (inc. cleats)
"also make great DH'er spds for better riders. Basically you are entering a technical section and dont want to be clipped in with one foot- you can rest your foot on the plastic cage"
That sounds like you haven't actually 'learnt' to use SPDs properly?
It depends on whether you use 'racer style' stiff soled shoes or not, if you do then you really shouldn't need a cage, if not (depending on the stiffness of the more casual/hiking style shoe as to whether a cage type pedal would help support your foot a bit better. (I use my spesh tahoes on M520s without any problems. The sole is perhaps stiffer than some, but still flexy compared to experts or sports)
Those pedals are the same price on Merlins 'real' website too (inc. postage) as well btw
That sounds like you haven't actually 'learnt' to use SPDs properly?
I don't think that's fair - I sometimes (when I had a cage) used to use it for precisely this, despite being able to clip in and out at will. I suppose it could explain why I'm always wikkid to the power of rad through techy sections....
:o)
Skip Rats Bro - you can get those pedals that Hora suggested from Decathlon for £27.95
Oh, so you can... [url= http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/m424-pedals-3884482/ ]http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/m424-pedals-3884482/[/url] Proper bargain
That sounds like you haven't actually 'learnt' to use SPDs properly?
Is that backed up by anything? Or is it said anywhere else? Do you have a link to where that came from? because i have a stiff soled shoe and i've found the cage to be very helpful when not clipped in.
Oh come on, I was merely suprised at one line on a councils website constituted law. I didn't mean to come across as questioning you personally (not sure this is reading properly either), so sorry If I did
Surely (one of) the point(s) of SPDs is the extra pedal security. If you're unclipping in the most techincal situations (where its needed most) then you'd be better off with some grippy flat pedals in this instance?
Just my opinion