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[Closed] STW Howgills ride, Sunday May 31st - Interested ??

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Following the last few STW rides we have done (and bloody brilliant they were too) we are sorting the next one out for the classic Howgill's loop.

Meet in Sedbergh for 9.30 look to be riding for 10am. RELAXED pace, plenty of chatting, plenty of stops. From memory I think the route is about 26 miles or so with a reasonable amount of climbing involved.

OK I know its 4 and a bit weeks off, but as its getting into (hopefully) summer, I thought I'd post it early so people can sort out day passes etc.

So who's interested ?


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 12:36 pm
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count me in looks a monster climb from the road


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 12:38 pm
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Its a great route - enjoy!


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 12:50 pm
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Yep, I'm in!


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 1:09 pm
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Yep, I'm in!

Are you sure - no housework to do? or your hair? mebbe some knitting? 🙄


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 1:27 pm
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I'm in.

with probably 4 others.

and I even have permission


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 2:30 pm
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I should be around for this, should be great if yesterday was owt to go by 8)


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 2:34 pm
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Yeah i'm up for it, thinking of camping as its quite far for me. Anyone else thinking of camping nearby to sedbergh?


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 2:51 pm
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i'm not coming, i hate you all, speshially junkyard, cos he allus takes the piss.......................... 😉


 
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Anyone else thinking of camping it up nearby to sedbergh?

yeah, why not? they're very tolerant round there...


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:01 pm
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Monster isnt the word Junkyard, stupidly steep at the start and goes on forever (possibly)
Not trying to put anyone off like, once you're up top its a long long looooong downhill.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:02 pm
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sod you then I am going to go for a walk with SFB instead of walking uphill with you then

Right then so worse than Belmont ascent in the wind ...defo bringing my walking shoes

the picture link of loweys mate at the top as encouragement
http://www.dave-lowe.fotopic.net/p53864055.html


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:03 pm
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walking uphill

now, if that's allowed I'll see if I can get a pass out...... 😀

Chris
Single Track [s]World[/s] Walkers Group....


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:07 pm
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Count me in!


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:10 pm
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**** it, i have had a change of mind..................

count me in....... 8)


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:12 pm
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Hmm could be tempted! Did I miss where it says what the route is?


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:12 pm
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Am I allowed to attend or will someone chuck their teddy ?

PS yes it's a hard climb, but when you get to the top you realise it was more than worth the effort just for the view, never mind the longest section of non trail centre singletrack in the north ahead :o)

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Posted : 27/04/2009 3:12 pm
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barnes, you can come, but if yer step out of line you will get it.....big time...... 😉


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:17 pm
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If Ton is going then that photo of my Grey 15" X5 against his grey 29er would make an amusing photo.

and just one point Lowey, it's not the pace that kills me it's the bloody climbing!


 
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but if yer step out of line you will get it.....big time

promises, promises big boy :o)


 
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Did I miss where it says what the route is?

if you click on one of my pics above and then 'route' you can see the map. Sedbergh, Winder, Arant Haw, Calders, Calf, Bowderdale, Ravenstonedale, Adamthwaite, Murthwaite, Narthwaite, Cautley, Sedbergh.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:22 pm
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the picture link of loweys mate at the top as encouragement

Lol.... that was Toss, however, it was only at the half way stage of the climb!!

Joking apart, yes it is a bit of a climb to start the day, however the views provide ample excuses for frequent stops.

It really is a cracking route.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:26 pm
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How relaxed is the pace going to be? I reckon it would probably take me about 5-6 hours to do that including rests, photo and lunch stops etc (yes I am slow!)


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:39 pm
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bit of a climb..........ppppfffff pmslraotf.......... 😉


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:40 pm
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Only ever done that bit between Bram Rigg and Winder as a dh - this route had better be good to justify doing that bit the wrong way round cos its an amazing downhill.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:42 pm
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bowderdale is among the top descents in the country.
singletrackaliscious 8)


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:43 pm
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I'll be there..

Should be another great [s]walk[/s] ride..

Lets hope the weather is the same as yesterday..


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:47 pm
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YOIKS
just looked at SFB's route map - his piccies make it look like a long but steady climb, the type [s]I eat for[/s] that eat me for breakfast ......
the profile diagram says otherwise.....

all I can say Ton is that's one heck of a sprout portion 😯 can only hope it's more sherry than trifle for the downhill 😆


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:49 pm
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We'll be fine at the back Chris.. 😆

Just don't forget yer jelly babies...


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 3:53 pm
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We'll be fine at the back Chris

to right we will - tis a very responsible job, making sure no one is left behind 😆

Don't forget to drop me a line if you fancy an STWalkers paced ride around these parts / pint in t'Riverhead.. 😀 infact I have to confirm the one for this Saurday, when I last posted there was interest from half a dozen or so....


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 4:02 pm
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Home sweet home!!! Hills forever more you can count me in for this one, Might even have a lighter hill climbing machine by then!!!!!


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 4:13 pm
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Might even have a lighter hill climbing machine by then!!!!!

Oh b*gger - he will do the [b]whole[/b] climb in big ring - mind you he might puncture - or break his chain - hehe


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 4:20 pm
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Yep You can count Garry and me in also I might even try the last climb 😳

Did it years ago in the fog so it would be nice to see the views .


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 4:34 pm
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stucowp
hijack, email me if you fancy riding this wednesday mate.....


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 4:42 pm
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Bit rude suggesting this now, seeing as I just rode it on my own on Saturday... 🙄

... still, it's good enough for a repeat showing, I'll consult the diary supervisor...


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 4:53 pm
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Count me in! Cheers for reminding me about that ****in climb, Junkyard and platering that pic of my arse all over the place 😉

Well worth it though on the other side... Awesome.

T


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 5:25 pm
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Grumm we go at the speed of the slowest rider (or we wait for them) and you will have lots of company pushing up I promise.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 5:35 pm
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Are there any details on the route hidden in the website or do I need to scan through my back issues of singletrack?

Certainly a great area so am interested if I can get my passport sorted for a border crossing!


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 5:45 pm
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sfb /boggies route here
http://www.bogtrotters.org/route/showrouteframe.php?route=44
Assuming Loweys route will be the same similiar etc


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 5:53 pm
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There are 3 ways from Bowderdale Farm to Weasdale, so that bit might be different


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 6:02 pm
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Thats the fella Johnnie.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 6:03 pm
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Many thanks for the link. Looks great!


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 6:10 pm
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Really enjoyed the Rivi ride, now just stop organising rides when I'm working!

Will have to see if I can make this one.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 6:31 pm
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Think i might be up for this one, looks a bloody good ride.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 6:33 pm
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sfb are the three routes the long way the short way and the wrong way?


 
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sfb are the three routes the long way the short way and the wrong way?

a) my way - Browfoot, Gars, Weasdale inc. 4 gates and a ford
b) middle way - Browfoot, Gars, Cow Bank, Weasdale - unknown to me but allegedly mud prone
c) cheeky way - Potts, Scar Sikes, Cow Bank, Weasdale - I've done it once but forgotten it 🙂 [shortest]


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 6:50 pm
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possible, wrist only out of plaster last week so will see how next couple of weeks go, but on my list do rides 🙂


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 7:01 pm
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Be nice to meet you smudge... hope the wrist is ok mate.


 
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I will be there, possibly bring a mate along


 
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Oh b*gger - he will do the whole climb in big ring - mind you he might puncture - or break his chain

I will fetch some rope deejay and provide a towing service for all those who require some assistance and more hill training for me yeahyyy!

I might even get a puncture going up now!!! yeah MIGHT!!! Ha ha


 
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[i]I will fetch some rope deejay and provide a towing service[/i] for all those who require some assistance and more hill training for me yeahyyy!

you may live to regret that offer stu 😀


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 8:02 pm
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Bugger. Would live to do that ride, but guess I will just have to settle for Aviemore seeing as I will be driving up there on the 30th 🙂
Paul


 
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Can I tag along if walking is allowed


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 8:18 pm
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Another one when I've got the kids. One of my fave routes too. When you pick the next ride date can you make it an odd number of weeks from this one please?


 
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Howdo

its an ace ace ace ride - we did it last summer and even goto see the battle of britain memorial flight fly beneath us ! For the bird lovers we also saw a hen harrier !

Its a hard slog up out of sedbergh and the last climb to the top of the calf is quite testing... The descent down bowderdale is quite something !

Paul


 
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Rode this on Saturday just gone. Didn't see another soul on bikes the whole way round, apart from some darksiders in Ravenstonedale.

The climb at the start is tough; to quote my mate Pete, "If you ran a bow across my Achilles right now, you'd get a high C".

However, the singletrack down to Bowderdale is absolute nirvana. The kind of riding you never want to end, and completely worth the previous pull up to the top.

You'll have a great time 🙂


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 10:53 pm
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It's the classic big day out profile, big [b]steep[/b] climb then long downhill, like the high street/ullswater loop - which I was going to suggest for the next one but not sure I fancy taking a big group of mountainbikers along ullswater on a summer weekend, pretty sure there would be friction.

I was trying to post that pic junkyard, very apt, but it kept saying no linking allowed.


 
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[i]Are you sure - no housework to do? or your hair? mebbe some knitting? [:roll:] [/i]

I see now that I'm going to have to own you on this gentle climb I've heard so much about


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 7:25 am
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Your absence was discussed at length on Sunday Danny, and obviously, your true gender and commitment were called into question. I tried to vigorously defend your honor, but found it increasingly difficult in the face of such valid arguments.

You'd better not miss this one otherwise the situation will be catastrophic for your "alpha" male status. 😛


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 7:58 am
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Donk, High Street is a great loop, but your bang on about the Ullsewater path. That would be carnage with a group of 20+ on a Sunday.

Could maybe think about Gatescarth, Nan Bield and Garburn loop though for the next.


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 8:00 am
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I'm in!


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 8:08 am
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Im working on the planned day.

Going to do it the wrong way round for the first time. Usually start at Tebay due to traveling down from the north. and go UP along Bowderdale and DOWN the Calf.


 
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+1 hopefully

I've done the climb upto the top with the boggies as part of a Wednesday night ride. I am usually the slowest in any group so I don't think its quite as bad as the impression I'm getting here.


 
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but not sure I fancy taking a big group of mountainbikers along ullswater on a summer weekend, pretty sure there would be friction.

I think the natural range of abilities would space riders out into small clumps, and we have as much right to be there as anyone else


 
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Gatescarth, Nan Bield and Garburn loop though for the next.

I have sworn [b]never[/b] to take a bike up Nan Bield again! Although it's beautiful, I seriously considered feigning injury (or self harming) so someone else would have to carry me out. It is ghastly 🙁
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Also if you include those 3 passes you're looking at 35 miles +


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 8:48 am
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The carry is more than rewarded by the descent into Kentmere, plus its soon over with if you grit your teeth and plod.

Shouldn't exclude such a classic loop just for a bit of hard work, or are you going soft ? 😛


 
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35 miles pah we will be back for a late lunch and still have time to get a trail centre in later ..naturally sfb you will be off promoting full access by just randomally cycling on footpaths sharing your pearls of wisdom with the ignorant walking masses. 😉
I agree with sfb actually we are allowed to cycle and just do a staggered groups of 4 matched by speed etc or do it as a group and just shout Boggies /MLEH ers forever whichever you prefer 😆


 
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plus its soon over with if you grit your teeth and plod.

and think of England ?

or are you going soft ?

so it seems...

My point is, given the level of softness claimed by the contributors to [b]this[/b] thread, most of them would find your suggestion far too difficult.


 
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naturally sfb you will be off promoting full access by just randomally cycling on footpaths

not exactly random - there's a section of FP from just above Howtown past Cotehow leading to the BW from Winter Crag, and I always take the unclassified road from Side Farm to Hartsop.


 
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I would if I was around. I should be back home around from 5th June onwards so look forward to any June rides going up north or Borders region.


 
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BTW, it might be as well to create a new thread for planning the [b]next[/b] ride :o)


 
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I have sworn never to take a bike up Nan Bield again! Although it's beautiful, I seriously considered feigning injury (or self harming) so someone else would have to carry me out. It is ghastly

Says the man who has just carried up Dollywagon.

I am not that fit, and have a heavy-ish bike, but I reckon I would be up for the 3 passes thing, as long as we had plenty of time.

I've not climbed over Winder before but i have done the climb (push) from Birkhaws to Bram Rigg Top - and while it was pretty brutal, it didn't kill me.


 
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Says the man who has just carried up Dollywagon

I shan't be doing [b]THAT[/b] again either 🙁

I've not climbed over Winder before but i have done the climb (push) from Birkhaws to Bram Rigg Top

The Calf is quite different - you can ride a fair bit and push the rest without any need for carrying


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 10:16 am
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Nice one Binners... be good to finally have a ride with you.


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 12:41 pm
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just dont bring that mate of yours ...you know the one we mean 🙄


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 1:21 pm
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barnes, you are a soft shyte.
trying carrying a bike and 21stone of muscle up nan bield....... 😉


 
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Fancy this one (with the portly boys at the back)


 
Posted : 28/04/2009 4:41 pm
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portly eh, 😉
we can stiffee it 8)


 
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barnes, you are a soft shyte.
trying carrying a bike and 21stone of muscle up nan bield

from what I recall Nan Bield (300m) was worse than Dollywaggon (275m). I've carried up Dollywaggon 4 times now and realised that I don't want to do that again either - it's much better going up from Dockray across Matterdale. I have nothing to prove, and I'd rather have fun :o)


 
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I will try and make it, there is nothing on the calendar but that doesn't mean the car isn't already in use.


 
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