[Closed] STW forum bivvy ride Dec 4th / 5th from Machynlleth.

I like the idea! I'll see what's in the calendar!

No trouble sheldon, let me know whenever.

Me, Me, Me.

Maybe, will have to check with the important one at home.

Yep, just got clearance to do this, Machynlleth is a trek (8 miles) but I'm up for this!

Did a ride tonight and the sun was just going down mover the Esturay as I dropped down to Cwrt. Wished I could have stayed up on the hill.

although, why not the Pony path up to the top of Cadair and stop in the Bothy up there.??

Might offer a bit of a roof in November in Wales 🙂

I might be up for this.

Are there any bivi locations big enough to fit a few people and the 'tolla's wok in though? 😆

even happy to stay in one gear

Bothy sounds like a plan!

Man wont it be bloody cold in the open around there

a similar thread from last year 😀

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/wild-camping-cadair-idris

Bothy at the top of Cadair is both remote and open 🙂 (but also offers a bit of shelter)

Baggsy the shelf seat on the eastern side at the back

I will take a peek in the diary. Stayed up there alone earlier this year... Was a wild and thought provoking night :@)

flatfish - Member
Me, Me, Me.

Good opportunity to try out my [url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/15512491@N08/sets/72157625268039166/ ]new frame bag[/url]

Very nice Ian, produced by your good lady?

It is indeed. That one was a prototype with some fancy VX21 fabric. The first official "production" bag is currently in production as I type...

Is that 'production' as in profit?

Looking good Ian, what sort of £ are they?

Or if Cadair is too steep fancy sleeping in a Castle..

http://www.castlewales.com/cybere.html

Is that 'production' as in profit?

Production as in for someone else other than me 🙂

tollah - not entirely sure yet - still getting a handle on such things...

There's likely to be two bags of our bags out on the 4th/5th, so you're welcome to have a good look then.

I'm game for this- depends upon location though. Not a lot of water on top of Cadair, how about Bryneglwys quarries above Abergynolwyn, easy to visit The Railway. Or Hafodty Gwadstafryn? Or Hyddgen? Or Maesnant Barns. Or the ruins close to the Afon Hengwm river crossing.

Ambrose wins a prize for nearest guess so far 😉

Water was my first thought when Cadair was suggested ... I do like my tea. Looking forward to seeing the bags Ian.

I'm thinking if I can work a pass, I may well endure the elements 😆

is the route do able for single speeder ,not superfit but can handle the pennines

Crezzy you'll be fine, I can't deny there'll be hills but I rather it wasn't a death march into the mountains 😉

Been told I can't have a pass out ,hopefully be allowed out in the newyear for a overnighter

come on crezzy work on those brownie points fella 😉

I'm trying to max mine for a morzine trip 😆

I like it, Will have to chack with the misses/boss...

What distance are you thinking each day?

still s8tannorm - Will send you email 🙂

Ok then, looks like we're on in one way or another, so some details so anyone interested can make an informed decision.

1pm meet up outside the Spar in Machynlleth (so we can stock up) on Sat' Dec' 4th. That should give us a bit of time for any faffing required.

I'm thinking somewhere around 25-30k at most for Sat and the same again for Sun return leg. Can't escape climbing but hey it's not a race. General direction of Nant y Moch.

We won't see anything in the way of shops/pubs, etc till we get back into Mach' on Sun, so you'll have to carry whatever you think you'll need ... there will be ample water 😉 Lights might be a good idea just in case.

Expect it to be cold so I wouldn't be wanting to spend the night in a pound stretcher sleeping bag ... hip flasks may ease the situation if you're that way inclined. Pseudo middle class party food would also do at a push 😉

Reckon that's about it, everyone welcome regardless of bike or ability.

Cheers
Stuart

Nice one Stu! I'll be there providing it's not pishin it doon!

It'll be an easy SS spin up to Bugeilyn!!!!!!

It'll be fine (32:28)

I just about managed 32:20 for the Welsh Ride Thing, though the extra weight of the gear on the bike made more of a difference than I thought it would.

I'm keen for this – only an occasional poster here but I live nr. Barmouth and would be happy to meet some of you lot.

I'll be up for this. Just back on bike after 3+ weeks off so should be fit enough by then. (Last two days climbing mole hills on a full carbon road bike has been painful!) See a few old faces too......

Kev

Fitness won't be a worry Kev.

thefirstpancake your more than welcome.

Stuart

Is this a bags only trip?

So if it looks like biblical rain (like a few nights last week!!) would a tent be acceptable or will you all laugh at my multiple geared bike and the luxury that is a tent?

Tiger as far as I'm concerned anything's fine. I know flatfish will more than likely be in a hammock and he'll no doubt be carrying an ipad loaded with films (so that's everyones entertainment sorted).

Ride what you want and sleep in what you want ... it's all good 😀

Hammock? Is the final destination a tree habited place? Or we stringing up bewteen windmills?

If there are trees, then bag and tarp I can live with 🙂

I'll be in a tent. Provided we don't stop somewhere exceptionally rocky, it'll be just fine*

*famous last words...

What sort of shelter will there be? I'm none to keen to lug my tent, I don't yet have a tarp but I have a goretex bivvi bag. Bothy/ ruin With a roof would suit me fine though.

I can lend you a tarp if you want.

Weather forecast dependant, unless there is a bothy which as far as I know there isn't.

Gear options.

Dry all night (minimal chance of rain) - Just Bivvi bag
Chance of light rain - Bivvi Bag, Micro Tarp
Biblical rain Looks like Noah may have to get his saw and animal encyclopedia out - Tent.

Are we gonna work out stoves, no point taking a stove per person 🙂

Pretty sheltered for bag users with options for tarps. Tents should be fine rock/ground wise but may have to find room outside the "compound" ... so if you're tenting it you'll have to fend the bears and wolves off, you also might find it difficult to watch flatfish's 52" plasma telly with surround sound from there 😀

If push really does come to shove then a roof is possible with an extension of the days riding (still heading in the right direction though).

I've got a budget bivi so I should be ok.

What constitutes a tarp?

I'm sure I can rustle something up before the off.

I'm going to try and be as minimal as possible as no fun lugging too much weight on the bike.

As for a tent I don't have a micro tent the nearest small light tent is the kids pop up one so I could be riding with a shield type thing on my back - could be a handy parachute 😆

If the weather is 'interesting' I'll bring along my BIG tarp, plenty big enough to get a few bodies under ... but no snory bodies 😉

Aargh! I may need to dip out of this one- Mrs Ambrose has a karate grading that weekend and I may have to look after Son 2. However, if I can make it (annd I'm trying hard) does anyone fancy sharing a BoB trailer? Yes Pete, that's you BTW 🙂

Is the bivvi location a secret? If publicised I would be more able to make decent decisions about what to bring etc. A four figure grid ref. at least. Pretty please.

Ambrose, I've sent you an email.

OK Ambrose if I can make it I'll assist with BoB no problem fella 😉

Very good 😉

I was up there yesterday and very nice it was too, I found a descent I'd not come across before. Real mix of rocks and mud, I'm thinking it's one for riding in freezing conditions when some of it might harden / dry out a bit ... I'll as John and Paul what they think.

Got my pass sorted 😀

time to get bivying kit sorted out other than bothy kit 🙂

not much difference really I suppose but tips welcomed

My tip would be - take loads and stick it in Ambrose's trailer 😀

😆

nah he'll make me drag that coffin sled up there 😉

makes a good table though 😀

bollocks! now in London that week

Still working on it folks. Where can I get a suitable tarp from- any sugestions?

@Stuart- many thanks for the mail, ta.

@Pete- I was going to do the uphills and let you do the downs. But now you are being all feisty I'm going to reverse it and let you do the uphills like I know you really want to.

One or two to choose from

http://www.ddhammocks.com/products/tarps/tarp

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/tarp-3243880/

http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16474&category_id=253

http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/shop/outdoor-clothing/waterproof-clothing/british-army-style-camo-woodland-265929.html

valleydaddy

- i've got a garage full of outdoor kit - bivibags, cookers, tarps (though work ones!) - let me know if you want to borrow anything

Any chance of a hint as to route/locations? I'm local and may ride out from nant direction (home) or join from Mach but I'm unsure of availability at the moment

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You've given it away with that picture now flatfish 😉

Thats the regular entrance, this one's for the premiere of my latest movie i'll be taking on my home cinema.
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So, you'll be coming round with ice cream wafers half way through then ... oh, and make sure there's nowt funny going off at the back 😯

Looks like I've been given the ok for this - is ok if I bolt on to this?

Same here.. I'd be up for this.

May have to see if tollah has any space in his wagon or i could take the van up.

i've always wanted to do a bivvy ride

Just doing a test load for 1 night away

@Ambrose - you know me I'll ride what ever is put in front of me. We have similar sized gates of bikes so we'll manage between us.

@Stevemorg2 - yes a lend of some kit would be great, I have a budget bivi but don't have much faith in it. I'll be in touch. I'm sure it's ok to tag along we maybe able to share a lift as we are A470 buddies 😀

Tricky, sure have but of it's raining I'm not playing! Mtfu yes yes yes I know.....

Steve and Tricky ... more than welcome, It's not my gig, I just look like I'm in charge 😉

All we need now, is a responsible adult.

No good looking at me ... I'm like Peter Pan (only without the slightly strange outfit).

(only without the slightly strange outfit).

... and with the outfit I'm obviously just me dressed like a nob 😀

as long as you are warm who cares??

Just ordered my tarp, paracord and something else that I can't remember.

Ambrose, a few lengths of shock cord might prove handy. I find some loops of elastic shock cord tied to the corners and sides of the tarp for the paracord to fasten to helps you get a tighter pitch.

I've got hammock coming as my back is ****ed 😀

**** off Sheldon, I want to be niche by myself. 😉

which tarp did you go for Ambrose?